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It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. 
For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here.
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Man i really dont know why i fucking hate monkeys so much. Everytime someone says a monkey is cute i think its a disgusting little fucker.
Whats wrong with me 
+ Show Spoiler +Monkey / gorilla same shit
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On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here.
I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha)
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On November 05 2013 01:37 Capped wrote:Man i really dont know why i fucking hate monkeys so much. Everytime someone says a monkey is cute i think its a disgusting little fucker. Whats wrong with me + Show Spoiler +Monkey / gorilla same shit
Maybe you refuse and kick back for your origins of your ancestors. Did you know that Monkeys are the only animals toghether with our species that have a sense of humor and do jokes.
Really liked the pictures i learned something new here
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To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible.
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that is just fucking adorable
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Is that Don Cheadle from Hotel Rwanda
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People hating on gorillas really need to be banned from life imo. Incidentally I've just seen the documentary on the war just a few hours ago. People slaughtering an entire gorilla family not taking its meat or trophies but just to send a message to anyone trying to stop them from making some dirty charcoal money.
If you find gorillas scary I wonder how you feel about.. us.
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On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha)
I think we've found George W. Bush's TL account ^^
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A picture is worth a thousands words, but in this particular case none of these words are South Africa nor monkeys.
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On November 05 2013 02:29 NeuroticPsychosis wrote:
Is that Don Cheadle from Hotel Rwanda
no I think it is Dule Hill from Psych
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On November 05 2013 03:09 Stratos wrote:
People hating on gorillas really need to be banned from life imo. Incidentally I've just seen the documentary on the war just a few hours ago. People slaughtering an entire gorilla family not taking its meat or trophies but just to send a message to anyone trying to stop them from making some dirty charcoal money.
If you find gorillas scary I wonder how you feel about.. us.
who is us? xD
Anyway i wouldnt go that far o.O i dont need to be banned from life nor would i slaughter innocent animals. In fact hearing they have a sense of humour makes me like them a little more.
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On November 05 2013 04:35 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:09 Stratos wrote:
People hating on gorillas really need to be banned from life imo. Incidentally I've just seen the documentary on the war just a few hours ago. People slaughtering an entire gorilla family not taking its meat or trophies but just to send a message to anyone trying to stop them from making some dirty charcoal money.
If you find gorillas scary I wonder how you feel about.. us. who is us? xD Anyway i wouldnt go that far o.O i dont need to be banned from life nor would i slaughter innocent animals. In fact hearing they have a sense of humour makes me like them a little more.
Yeah I'm just making sure gorillas knew who was on their side when the time comes.
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On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha)
That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent.
On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible.
There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings.
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There's always one guy that will sacrifice his account for one racist joke, I'm keeping an eye on this thread until I see him. Although he might have been banned already since we had quite a few scarlett threads recently
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I know they aren't the same species (gorillas and chimpanzees) but anyone seeking greater knowledge of the psyche of chimpanzees may find this book of interest. Reading about the book instead of the book itself can be enough.
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I think its safe to say that all animals, humans and non-humans included all experience emotions on a basic level at least. like a dog can feel sad, or can feel happy. The onyl difference betewen them and human emotions is humans are more complex, like feeling sadness, anger, etc
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On November 05 2013 07:53 Smurfett3 wrote:
I think its safe to say that all animals, humans and non-humans included all experience emotions on a basic level at least. like a dog can feel sad, or can feel happy. The onyl difference betewen them and human emotions is humans are more complex, like feeling sadness, anger, etc
Not sure I would agree with you about the more complex part - animals are capable of some serious stuff you wouldn't normally associate with them if you didn't see it. Hell, chimpanzee tribes can engage in war amongst each other.
The only thing I'm fairly certain of is that humans have much better impulse control and the ability to delay gratification much better than most other creatures. Then again, there's that whole overdeveloped frontal cortex.
It's nice that in such chaos, some people are recognizing how the conflict is impacting the world outside humanity, and are trying to help the gorillas. I still wouldn't want to open my door and find a troop of gorillas on my doorstep.
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On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings.
Okay okay don't get your panties in a knot. Of course I am aware there is nothing between humans and animals. I meant on a scale of self awareness and emotional sensitivity rather than an actual biological difference. What it is that bothers me is that apes are more advanced than other species of animals. As everyone is saying, they're capable of more complex actions and thoughts than your average animal. There is a huge leap between your common household dog and an ape. And then another big difference between that ape and a human. They stand out from other animals in so many aspects, including opposable thumbs, development of tools, complexity of their communication system and team work, and of course their emotional intelligence.
Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects?
Also I'd like to make it clear that while I'm no huge fan of monkeys, gorillas or indeed any ape because of my absurd feelings, I am by no means condoning their slaughter or homelessness. I think it is admirable what these guys are doing and the selflessness of the helpers who are putting aside their own hardships and finding therapy in helping the gorilla orphans. Anyone who knows me would be aware I am not someone who believes in killing animals for any purpose.
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On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects?
Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that.
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On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that.
Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more?
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On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more?
Sure.
Also I'm not referring to myself as an individual but rather to us as the human race.
Compare yourselt to a chimpanzee. Are you covered in that same thick coat of hair? Are your feet able to grip branches? Are you able to sit in that crouched position for hours on end? Do you voluntarily pick and eat insects off your neighbour's head? I'm sure that the answer to these is no. We have elvolved past that stage in our lives. We are more civilized than that now. We don't need all that hair to keep us warm because we have clothes. We have evolved to walk on two legs which are awkwardly long and in most cases people find it uncomfortable to sit with their knees up by their ears. We are ground dwelling creatures. Our cuisine has changed too since our neanderthal days. We aren't reliant on foraging or hunting. People who eat insects now are doing it out of choice.
My whole point is that we are no longer neanderthals. We are modern humans, shaped by society and technology. No, I'm not ashamed of our past at all. Look how far we have come. Look at all the evidence of apes evolving too. There is documented evidence of apes walking on their hind legs, using tools to make food easier to reach etc. These are fairly human traits. Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they.
Also my inner artist doesn't find apes visually pleasing and and therefore I have less interest in them. And yes thats a thing before you ask.
apologies for typos. Phone typing is hard
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Monkeys are ugly, and saying so implies nothing other than that one dislikes the physical appearance of monkeys.
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On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they.
That's very comical.
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On November 06 2013 13:54 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they. That's very comical.
Are you going to expand on that or just leave it as an effectual 'lol' post? I would also like to hear your views on apes.
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On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Sure. Also I'm not referring to myself as an individual but rather to us as the human race. Compare yourselt to a chimpanzee. Are you covered in that same thick coat of hair? Are your feet able to grip branches? Are you able to sit in that crouched position for hours on end? Do you voluntarily pick and eat insects off your neighbour's head? I'm sure that the answer to these is no. We have elvolved past that stage in our lives. We are more civilized than that now. We don't need all that hair to keep us warm because we have clothes. We have evolved to walk on two legs which are awkwardly long and in most cases people find it uncomfortable to sit with their knees up by their ears. We are ground dwelling creatures. Our cuisine has changed too since our neanderthal days. We aren't reliant on foraging or hunting. People who eat insects now are doing it out of choice. My whole point is that we are no longer neanderthals. We are modern humans, shaped by society and technology. No, I'm not ashamed of our past at all. Look how far we have come. Look at all the evidence of apes evolving too. There is documented evidence of apes walking on their hind legs, using tools to make food easier to reach etc. These are fairly human traits. Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they. Also my inner artist doesn't find apes visually pleasing and and therefore I have less interest in them. And yes thats a thing before you ask. apologies for typos. Phone typing is hard
Thanks for the reply. I guess I can understand why apes could cause such reactions though I cannot identify with it myself. One last question if I may, do you recognize your discomfort as irrational?
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On November 06 2013 14:14 draverjai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 13:54 Djzapz wrote:On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they. That's very comical. Are you going to expand on that or just leave it as an effectual 'lol' post? I would also like to hear your views on apes.
I have no view on apes, they're animals which aren't particularly aesthetically pleasing to my eye, granted that's never been a relevant thing to discuss to me. Apes are not pretty and the sky is blue. I'm fine with that.
As for my lol post, I don't know what more to do. You amuse me. You say that it scares you. Apes and the fact that their evolution continues scares you... It's just unbelievable.
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On November 06 2013 14:41 Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Sure. Also I'm not referring to myself as an individual but rather to us as the human race. Compare yourselt to a chimpanzee. Are you covered in that same thick coat of hair? Are your feet able to grip branches? Are you able to sit in that crouched position for hours on end? Do you voluntarily pick and eat insects off your neighbour's head? I'm sure that the answer to these is no. We have elvolved past that stage in our lives. We are more civilized than that now. We don't need all that hair to keep us warm because we have clothes. We have evolved to walk on two legs which are awkwardly long and in most cases people find it uncomfortable to sit with their knees up by their ears. We are ground dwelling creatures. Our cuisine has changed too since our neanderthal days. We aren't reliant on foraging or hunting. People who eat insects now are doing it out of choice. My whole point is that we are no longer neanderthals. We are modern humans, shaped by society and technology. No, I'm not ashamed of our past at all. Look how far we have come. Look at all the evidence of apes evolving too. There is documented evidence of apes walking on their hind legs, using tools to make food easier to reach etc. These are fairly human traits. Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they. Also my inner artist doesn't find apes visually pleasing and and therefore I have less interest in them. And yes thats a thing before you ask. apologies for typos. Phone typing is hard Thanks for the reply. I guess I can understand why apes could cause such reactions though I cannot identify with it myself. One last question if I may, do you recognize your discomfort as irrational?
Yes, I guess I would say it is irrational. Very cosmetically based I would say.
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On November 06 2013 13:15 draverjai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 07:13 Stratos wrote:On November 06 2013 04:09 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 13:50 draverjai wrote:On November 05 2013 06:38 Djzapz wrote:On November 05 2013 01:44 Smurfett3 wrote:On November 05 2013 01:06 draverjai wrote:It takes place in DRC, not South Africa. For those wanting to see the article and the pics you can find it here. I was speaking the continent of south africa, not the country (oh nvm now i see what's wrong about it haha) That's not a thing. Maybe you can say southern Africa. Also DRC is not really in the south of the continent. On November 05 2013 02:06 draverjai wrote:
To be fair I have never liked monkeys either. I too find them repulsive and can't really think of them as either animal nor human but some weird half-way between life form. That really is the only aversion I have to them, but it is full aversion enough that I try to ignore their existence where possible. There is nothing between animals and humans, as humans technically are animals. That said I can't say anything about your crazy feelings. Do you not find it a little discomforting that something so close to humans in many ways is actually a hairy creature that swings from trees and eats insects? Not at all. I even have trouble conceiving why a person would have any issue with that. Same here. Hell, we're hairy and many insects are a delicacy in various parts of the world. Do you find that discomforting too? What are you, ashamed of our ancestry? do you consider yourself so advanced that being hairy or eating survival food is something you don't want to associate yourself with? I find that quite amusing but also interesting. Care to elaborate some more? Sure. Also I'm not referring to myself as an individual but rather to us as the human race. Compare yourselt to a chimpanzee. Are you covered in that same thick coat of hair? Are your feet able to grip branches? Are you able to sit in that crouched position for hours on end? Do you voluntarily pick and eat insects off your neighbour's head? I'm sure that the answer to these is no. We have elvolved past that stage in our lives. We are more civilized than that now. We don't need all that hair to keep us warm because we have clothes. We have evolved to walk on two legs which are awkwardly long and in most cases people find it uncomfortable to sit with their knees up by their ears. We are ground dwelling creatures. Our cuisine has changed too since our neanderthal days. We aren't reliant on foraging or hunting. People who eat insects now are doing it out of choice. My whole point is that we are no longer neanderthals. We are modern humans, shaped by society and technology. No, I'm not ashamed of our past at all. Look how far we have come. Look at all the evidence of apes evolving too. There is documented evidence of apes walking on their hind legs, using tools to make food easier to reach etc. These are fairly human traits. Maybe what scares me is where is this evolution going? We haven't stopped evolving and nor have they. Also my inner artist doesn't find apes visually pleasing and and therefore I have less interest in them. And yes thats a thing before you ask. apologies for typos. Phone typing is hard
your post was very well said. I agree on many things, but not on the fundametal part. I believe that, since we are still doing the same things, and searching for the same needs now and milions of years ago, we have not reached the stage of modern humans but more like we still live alongside our past. It is part of us. The way has changed but not the things we seek. We have developed "advanced" if you will technology, but the things that made the technology possible are the same needs of always. Comunication, food, warmth, socialization and purpose. Yes purpose. I don' t know if apes and gorillas question themselves about what are they doing with their life, but apart from that, we share the same fundamental needs.
my view on Apes is that they are nice and friendly, or irritating or just mind there own buisness like people. They are awesome as do. I wonder what it would be like to jam with some of them. I think on a percussion of some kind could work.
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