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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 21 2013 19:56 GMT
#1
Sc2 being replaced with MLG, viewership declining, Gloom and doom on every community site, Koreans winning everything and Blizzard is no where to be found.

Maybe it's time I take up knitting, at least we still have Hearthstone

*
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 20:05:38
August 21 2013 20:05 GMT
#2
I know dat feel.

I just try to ladder.

no point trying to get good at another game. might as well be a good at something right?
Ive invested 2 years into sc2. Ive gotten mini-fame might as well take what I got
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 21 2013 20:23 GMT
#3
wtf, why would you care about all this stuff if you still enjoy the game.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 21 2013 20:25 GMT
#4
Or we could just not give a damn and enjoy the game
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 20:26:57
August 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#5
On August 22 2013 05:25 Teoita wrote:
Or we could just not give a damn and enjoy the game


I try my hardest but sometimes the negativity gets through like a brick wave. I enjoy competition and as the NA scene collapses a lot of the competition goes with it.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
August 21 2013 20:51 GMT
#6
Thats why we need national and regional tournaments. Everywhere the same is pretty boring.
90% of all teamleague tournaments are using all-kill format, the most boring format
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 21 2013 21:07 GMT
#7
Enjoy the game. Who cares about viewership?

+ Show Spoiler +
Or enjoy bw.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 21 2013 21:08 GMT
#8
It's alright man. As long as we have proleague it's all good.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
August 21 2013 21:11 GMT
#9
On August 22 2013 06:08 c0ldfusion wrote:
It's alright man. As long as we have proleague it's all good.

Do we have next season?
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Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
August 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#10
On August 22 2013 04:56 Esoterikk wrote:
Sc2 being replaced with MLG, viewership declining, Gloom and doom on every community site, Koreans winning everything and Blizzard is no where to be found.

Maybe it's time I take up knitting, at least we still have Hearthstone

on behalf of the sc2 community, we do not need this negativity. Please take it and go, gg and gl in hearthstone
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#11
On August 22 2013 05:23 Paljas wrote:
wtf, why would you care about all this stuff if you still enjoy the game.

I imagine a lot of people enjoyed that they felt they were a part of esports rather than actually enjoying playing the game.

Look at all the reluctance to play 1v1 that gets posted.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 21 2013 21:59 GMT
#12
Bro, are you being real? This post is so ironic, it hurts. Just because foreigners are losing, doesn't mean the game is dying. Take a sec and cool off, the only thing killing sc2 is people saying stuff is killing it.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 21 2013 22:04 GMT
#13
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
August 21 2013 22:11 GMT
#14
On August 22 2013 06:56 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:23 Paljas wrote:
wtf, why would you care about all this stuff if you still enjoy the game.

I imagine a lot of people enjoyed that they felt they were a part of esports rather than actually enjoying playing the game.

Look at all the reluctance to play 1v1 that gets posted.

Yeah it's sad they just say they like the game just because #ESPORTS TT
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 21 2013 22:46 GMT
#15
On August 22 2013 07:11 Master of DalK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:56 Dfgj wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:23 Paljas wrote:
wtf, why would you care about all this stuff if you still enjoy the game.

I imagine a lot of people enjoyed that they felt they were a part of esports rather than actually enjoying playing the game.

Look at all the reluctance to play 1v1 that gets posted.

Yeah it's sad they just say they like the game just because #ESPORTS TT


Actually the lack of NA events and viewership declining caused most of my friends to pick up LoL and honestly while I enjoy Sc2 it's boring as hell if you don't know anyone who plays, that's the biggest problem for me anyway.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
August 22 2013 00:01 GMT
#16
Watching Taiwan lose to Panama was depressing, SC2 matches are always amusing for the nerdgasms!
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 00:10:51
August 22 2013 00:09 GMT
#17
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man

ouch.

I haven't actually played SCII in several weeks. My laptop's temps go up hardcore when I play so I decided to switch to mostly BW with some SCII with friends. Most of my friends don't play SCII anymore though and most that never did in the first place play Dota2 or LoL. Part of playing starcraft is playing games against friends and teammates, doing wacky builds with them etc... but ya, guess that's not gonna happen anytime soon in my case XD BTW, OP, you should just ignore all those news and play SCII on the ladder normally. No reason to spread doom and gloom in the community more than it's already been spread with all the "SCII is dying" posts/thread
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
August 22 2013 01:04 GMT
#18
If you're complaining about Korean players taking everything then you'd be depressed since WoL got released.

Switch to another game/community like Dota or something where it's currently really popular, maybe it'd change your mood.
aaaaa
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 22 2013 01:05 GMT
#19
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man

Yeah, I went through this for a while, but I just came to appreciate SC2 for what it is, an excellent game that gets shit on because it had to follow up an impossibly good game. If starcraft 2 was called something else and didn't have to do with broodwar, I'm sure it would get much higher regards from the community, although the community would probably be smaller.
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Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 22 2013 01:11 GMT
#20
I love it when someone posts something depressing about sc2.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 22 2013 01:32 GMT
#21
I play the game for fun. I watch for fun. When I am not having fun I stop doing both of those. I will admit I HATE the WCS system, I have posted about it in other topics with how I would have designed it. I also will admit, I do kinda agree with you, it sucks to see Koreans come and stomp everyone, when I really want to see my favorite players play in tournaments. I find it more interesting to watch Naniwa play than I do with Rain for example. I will admit korean vs foreigner finals are always the most epic!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 22 2013 01:50 GMT
#22
On August 22 2013 06:11 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:08 c0ldfusion wrote:
It's alright man. As long as we have proleague it's all good.

Do we have next season?


Yes there will be at least one more season

source: whiplash
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 22 2013 02:26 GMT
#23
On August 22 2013 10:05 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man

Yeah, I went through this for a while, but I just came to appreciate SC2 for what it is, an excellent game that gets shit on because it had to follow up an impossibly good game. If starcraft 2 was called something else and didn't have to do with broodwar, I'm sure it would get much higher regards from the community, although the community would probably be smaller.

Well, maybe someday for me. I still follow the scene from a distance, watch a few games and try to catch big games of players I care about. Once in a blue moon, I catch a game which entertains me. But I'll always miss enjoying a vast majority of the games like I did in BW. I'll miss being so excited about an OSL/MSL/Proleague final that I'd wake up in the middle of the night on a school day to watch it.
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
August 22 2013 02:36 GMT
#24
Negativity sucks, haha XD
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
RBKeys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
August 22 2013 03:40 GMT
#25
SC2 is fun . . . but so are other games. You don't need to be reserved to just one.
Thanks for the break :D
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
August 22 2013 04:58 GMT
#26
On August 22 2013 06:54 Race is Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 04:56 Esoterikk wrote:
Sc2 being replaced with MLG, viewership declining, Gloom and doom on every community site, Koreans winning everything and Blizzard is no where to be found.

Maybe it's time I take up knitting, at least we still have Hearthstone

on behalf of the sc2 community, we do not need this negativity. Please take it and go, gg and gl in hearthstone

You don't speak on behalf of the community -_-. Especially when you registered 3 months ago. That or you're a PBU. Don't be dismissive of others peoples opinions.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 22 2013 05:04 GMT
#27
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man


Hey, at least BW is growing!~
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10114 Posts
August 22 2013 05:44 GMT
#28
SCBW fan is even worse. TT.TT
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
August 22 2013 05:54 GMT
#29
within a couple years we'll all be back on iccup playing bw.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 22 2013 06:44 GMT
#30
Blogs about SC2 being depressing are depressing
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 22 2013 06:47 GMT
#31
Dafuq are you smoking? Get hyped for WCS Global, dude!
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 22 2013 07:15 GMT
#32
don't see how koreans winning everything is bad.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 22 2013 07:25 GMT
#33
a totally un-productive and pointless post, we need a lot less of this negativity in the community.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 22 2013 08:00 GMT
#34
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man

feels awesome here. now go watch jaehoon @afreeca live atm
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/snipealot2
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 22 2013 11:50 GMT
#35
WTF man? The amount of highlevel games to watch this year was the absolutely largest in SC2 history, with the 3-region WCS and SPL on top of it, with stuff like Dreamhack and ROG continuing as strong as ever. There was so much SC2 that I had to really cherry pick what to watch, otherwise I won't have the time to sleep. All of this with rising production values and great commentary. I have a really hard time seing, what your problem is.

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 15:44 GMT
#36
On August 22 2013 04:56 Esoterikk wrote:
Sc2 being replaced with MLG, viewership declining, Gloom and doom on every community site, Koreans winning everything and Blizzard is no where to be found.

Maybe it's time I take up knitting, at least we still have Hearthstone

I have good new for you. MLG did not drop SC2, they are just not running it with a conflicting event that weekend. They have said they want to run SC2 at other events. Just enjoy the game and try to ignore the haters. There will be great SC2 this weekend at Gamescom and we have all of season 3 to rock out too. Plus Blizzcon is coming up. Kids are going to say SC2 is dying, but they just look at stream numbers and say “its not the biggest, that’s dead”. That’s not how life works.

As always, “don’t read the comments” is a rule for life.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
August 22 2013 17:57 GMT
#37
On August 22 2013 07:46 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:11 Master of DalK wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:56 Dfgj wrote:
On August 22 2013 05:23 Paljas wrote:
wtf, why would you care about all this stuff if you still enjoy the game.

I imagine a lot of people enjoyed that they felt they were a part of esports rather than actually enjoying playing the game.

Look at all the reluctance to play 1v1 that gets posted.

Yeah it's sad they just say they like the game just because #ESPORTS TT


Actually the lack of NA events and viewership declining caused most of my friends to pick up LoL and honestly while I enjoy Sc2 it's boring as hell if you don't know anyone who plays, that's the biggest problem for me anyway.


You're a fan yet find the game "boring as hell"? There's plenty of other games to play with friends.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 18:18:58
August 22 2013 18:18 GMT
#38
Koreans have been winning everything for ages, before HOTS was released. I'd say Blizzard is more visible now than they were back then.

Viewership might be declining though, MLG dropping SC2 was indeed a blow.

EDIT: Though yes, reading through the topic, I was reminded that there were rumors that MLG hasn't dropped it permanently.
DunDon
Profile Joined May 2013
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 20:13:43
August 22 2013 20:12 GMT
#39
On August 22 2013 11:26 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 10:05 9-BiT wrote:
On August 22 2013 07:04 Djzapz wrote:
I don't want to be even more of a bummer but if you think being SC2 fan is depressing, try being a SCBW fan and not liking SC2.

Feels bad, man

Yeah, I went through this for a while, but I just came to appreciate SC2 for what it is, an excellent game that gets shit on because it had to follow up an impossibly good game. If starcraft 2 was called something else and didn't have to do with broodwar, I'm sure it would get much higher regards from the community, although the community would probably be smaller.

Well, maybe someday for me. I still follow the scene from a distance, watch a few games and try to catch big games of players I care about. Once in a blue moon, I catch a game which entertains me. But I'll always miss enjoying a vast majority of the games like I did in BW. I'll miss being so excited about an OSL/MSL/Proleague final that I'd wake up in the middle of the night on a school day to watch it.

Those were the days bro.. those were the days.
Waking up at 5 for a KT/SKT/Samsung game.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
August 22 2013 20:47 GMT
#40
On August 22 2013 14:54 LuckyFool wrote:
within a couple years we'll all be back on iccup playing bw.

I'm still here!
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 20:51 GMT
#41
On August 23 2013 03:18 Tobberoth wrote:
Koreans have been winning everything for ages, before HOTS was released. I'd say Blizzard is more visible now than they were back then.

Viewership might be declining though, MLG dropping SC2 was indeed a blow.

EDIT: Though yes, reading through the topic, I was reminded that there were rumors that MLG hasn't dropped it permanently.

They are not rumors. MLG has confirmed they will have SC2 at other events later if possible.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#42
SC:BW has been getting it's ass kicked last few years, but I never gave up and felt down. Keep your chin up, guy.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 23 2013 01:23 GMT
#43
On August 22 2013 04:56 Esoterikk wrote:
Koreans winning everything and Blizzard is no where to be found.:


So.....Broodwar?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 23 2013 08:17 GMT
#44
Sometimes I imagine what happens when everyone just goes back to Broodwar. all the pros etc. Starcraft 2 got many people into Starcraft, but would the people really consider Broodwar when they come to the conclusion its way harder? I don't know, but would be amazing~~ _Imagine Broodwar scene being revived with tons of money in it :D
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SomethingWitty
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada94 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 13:30:57
August 23 2013 13:20 GMT
#45
Why would it make you sad? It's not like viewership is in the low-mid hundreds... WCS NA, the weakest region, had like a consistent 40-50k viewers all weekend. That's a healthy, sustainable number. Like the amount of people complaining about just the timing with TI3 is just so ridiculous; you never hear baseball fans whine after the super bowl saying, "hmmph. We'll never get as many views as the super bowl. I'm sad". What matters is sustainability and we are reaching a point where we can say this is a sustainable scene. It's not perfect, I agree with that, but not because of viewers. The biggest problem right now is the stumbling North American scene which has its head held under water by Blizzard.

This thread is great encouragement for starting a thread on the Brood War nostalgia circle-jerk.
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Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
August 23 2013 18:16 GMT
#46
On August 23 2013 22:20 SomethingWitty wrote:
Why would it make you sad? It's not like viewership is in the low-mid hundreds... WCS NA, the weakest region, had like a consistent 40-50k viewers all weekend. That's a healthy, sustainable number. Like the amount of people complaining about just the timing with TI3 is just so ridiculous; you never hear baseball fans whine after the super bowl saying, "hmmph. We'll never get as many views as the super bowl. I'm sad". What matters is sustainability and we are reaching a point where we can say this is a sustainable scene. It's not perfect, I agree with that, but not because of viewers. The biggest problem right now is the stumbling North American scene which has its head held under water by Blizzard.

This thread is great encouragement for starting a thread on the Brood War nostalgia circle-jerk.


Yeah you can contemptuously call it nostalgia and circle jerking, while trying to justify the merits of SC2 on it's "sustainability". Pretty sad that business jargon and and e-sports cheerleading precedes or even substitutes actual love and passion for the game. BW was free of that at least, unless I'm remembering wrong (blinded by nostalgia would be apt in that case).
SomethingWitty
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada94 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 23:00:39
August 23 2013 23:00 GMT
#47
On August 24 2013 03:16 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:20 SomethingWitty wrote:
Why would it make you sad? It's not like viewership is in the low-mid hundreds... WCS NA, the weakest region, had like a consistent 40-50k viewers all weekend. That's a healthy, sustainable number. Like the amount of people complaining about just the timing with TI3 is just so ridiculous; you never hear baseball fans whine after the super bowl saying, "hmmph. We'll never get as many views as the super bowl. I'm sad". What matters is sustainability and we are reaching a point where we can say this is a sustainable scene. It's not perfect, I agree with that, but not because of viewers. The biggest problem right now is the stumbling North American scene which has its head held under water by Blizzard.

This thread is great encouragement for starting a thread on the Brood War nostalgia circle-jerk.


Yeah you can contemptuously call it nostalgia and circle jerking, while trying to justify the merits of SC2 on it's "sustainability". Pretty sad that business jargon and and e-sports cheerleading precedes or even substitutes actual love and passion for the game. BW was free of that at least, unless I'm remembering wrong (blinded by nostalgia would be apt in that case).


I'm not trying to "justify the merits of SC2 on it's "sustainability"". I'm stating a fact which is that while Sc2 isn't the most watched scene the place we are at now is sustainable to have pro players, events offline and online, personalities, casters etc. How am I even e-sports cheerleading? LOL. I'm sure the people who go to live events and who play this game a lot have a passion for it but you're too immature to realize that you not having passion for the game doesn't mean that NO ONE can have passion for the game. You've got a lot of growing up to do.
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 24 2013 21:00 GMT
#48
On August 23 2013 07:41 ninazerg wrote:
SC:BW has been getting it's ass kicked last few years, but I never gave up and felt down. Keep your chin up, guy.

I'm pretty sure in the past few years since it's "death" it's grown a bit, just from the exposure that got it, but I could be wrong.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 24 2013 21:09 GMT
#49
On August 25 2013 06:00 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 07:41 ninazerg wrote:
SC:BW has been getting it's ass kicked last few years, but I never gave up and felt down. Keep your chin up, guy.

I'm pretty sure in the past few years since it's "death" it's grown a bit, just from the exposure that got it, but I could be wrong.

Still a shadow of its former self.
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Last Edited: 2013-08-24 22:59:39
August 24 2013 22:59 GMT
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On August 22 2013 06:59 docvoc wrote:
the only thing killing sc2 is people saying stuff is killing it.

I am stealing this.
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