Once upon a time (yes, it's going to be one of those, now shush shush :O), I used to think I was pretty smart. This was probably pre-teen or thereabouts, but I'm pretty sure I thought I was the shit. There were lots of embarrassing and/or weird things about mini-me, and this was just one of them, but there you have it. My memory is horrible but to my knowledge I was a little fucking smartass lol. Well anyway, as I grew up, though, I thankfully lost more and more of overconfidence....but to the point that, where I am now, I have next to no confidence in myself whatsoever lol.
In addition to that, I really have little to no clue wtf I want to do with myself. It's the mini-pre-college existential crisis, if you will. I'm a CS/EE major at the moment (program has us do both & we decide on a focus as juniors--I'm leaning CS atm), interested in finance, but I literally have no experience coding or anything :| Never actually learned legit programming growing up sooo no idea how that's going to pan out. I've only been learning a little bit this summer.
The thing is, I'm not particularly good at anything, don't really find myself drawn toward anything in particular. In my experience I'm pretty much okay at everything, but never right at the top; and I haven't found anything for which I have a huge passion. I know you're supposed to figure it out in college but I'm really not sure I will... not to mention trying classes in different fields can really suck when you're trying to balance your courseload and everything as it were. And what if you take a class in something that you might have liked otherwise, but the class happens to ruin it for you?? etc
Finally, in general I just feel flukey(?) oh and like college is going to kick my ass. I mean yes it happens to basically everyone and duh it's not going to be easy, but I can't imagine doing very well at all based on what I know about myself Both in terms of how "smart" I am and how hard-working I am (not very much at all, for both). My study habits stink, I spend like all day aimlessly browsing the web online, and I can't just get by with genius or anything. <__<
So yeah. College really fucking scares me. No confidence, no idea what I want to do, no field I love/am good at, and generally I feel like a steamroller's gonna hit me in 2 weeks--that's when it'll start I'm still excited, to be sure, but mostly scared. Oh yeah and obviously with studies, I'm super worried that I won't even have enough time to have fun, hang out, meet people, etc etc T___T
Most people who go to college are in the same boat you are believe it or not. Its supposed to introduce you to a bunch of fields you wouldn't normally see to make you more creative/better problem solver.
dam it Aerisky, your going to Berkely, a good school wanted you/accepted you for your achievements. Your gonna learn a lot about yourself, and its ok if you have no clue what you want to study. You have an idea at the moment but there are sooooo many things that you have yet to experience that will shape who you become. I think the average undergrad changes 3 times before they graduate.
If you really need a pick-me-up. Go browse the craigslist classifieds, I reccomend the M4W and W4M section and be grateful that you will never be this desperate.
At least we will be going through this together my chinese home boi!
Don't worry. I'm in a Software Engineering course and I started 1st year with zero programming experience, 66 on my CS midterm. After 2 years I'm easily near the top 20% of the class in coding. I'm still not godly anywhere, but decent everywhere for the most part. Don't sweat things so much, you have a lot of room to grow up over 4 years, and you really don't know what how your life is going to shape up year-after-year. College is really that big of a change, if you let it be. Just push yourself to study harder, work harder, play harder. Find other people that share the same values you do and grow up with them.
If you don't really like anything in particular and aren't particularly great at anything in particular, study whatever makes you the most money. You'll either like it, hate it, or tolerate it. If you hate it, pick up the next best thing that makes you money. So on, so forth. You're already on a good path here with CS/EE. You think most CS/EE majors are really that passionate about what they're doing? Hah.
The "study what you're passionate about" works when you know what you're passionate about, and even then, it's not about innate passion but hard work. Passion for a field of study is artificial. People end up liking what they're good at, so if you work hard and become good at a certain field, then you'll like it because your success in that field will make you feel better about yourself. It's a positive feedback loop. You want to like CS/EE, and you're not terrible at it? Work hard, become good at it, and you'll probably like it.
Anyways, I think a lot of bright people are overconfident when they are young, but as they grow up, they learn to tone it back. That's good; you won't get hit by a hammer when you realize you're not the smartest person in your class (and hell, someone has to be in the bottom 25%, though since you are so worried about college, I'm sure you will make sure you are not in the bottom 25%). Humility's good for a person.
Two weeks left, go do something relaxing, and try not to worry too much. You'll have time enough to stress out and worry when school starts.
you will spend the first two weeks completely drunk and afterwards youll have a bunch of friends. Then youll notice its pretty much how school used to be, except that now results do count.
On August 15 2013 05:08 Awesomedrifter wrote: Most people who go to college are in the same boat you are believe it or not. Its supposed to introduce you to a bunch of fields you wouldn't normally see to make you more creative/better problem solver.
Plus there lots of cute girls
Yeah, I do hope it ends up that way >_< Also cute girls, I can dig that :D
On August 15 2013 05:22 jrkirby wrote: Where are you going? I'm studying CS right now and it's awesome. It's useful to know programming before you get there, but it really isn't necessary.
Ah nice! I hope I end up enjoying it too, I'm going to UC Berkeley :X
On August 15 2013 05:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote: dam it Aerisky, your going to Berkely, a good school wanted you/accepted you for your achievements. Your gonna learn a lot about yourself, and its ok if you have no clue what you want to study. You have an idea at the moment but there are sooooo many things that you have yet to experience that will shape who you become. I think the average undergrad changes 3 times before they graduate.
If you really need a pick-me-up. Go browse the craigslist classifieds, I reccomend the M4W and W4M section and be grateful that you will never be this desperate.
At least we will be going through this together my chinese home boi!
Hmm...gotcha. Yeah I'll try to keep that in mind as I go on. It does feel good to get that off my chest though haha, so I feel better already ~_~ but LOL I remember you mentioning that M4W and W4M sections idea on cl ;__;
Yeahh college gonna be funfun I hope :O
On August 15 2013 05:38 Blisse wrote: Don't worry. I'm in a Software Engineering course and I started 1st year with zero programming experience, 66 on my CS midterm. After 2 years I'm easily near the top 20% of the class in coding. I'm still not godly anywhere, but decent everywhere for the most part. Don't sweat things so much, you have a lot of room to grow up over 4 years, and you really don't know what how your life is going to shape up year-after-year. College is really that big of a change, if you let it be. Just push yourself to study harder, work harder, play harder. Find other people that share the same values you do and grow up with them.
Holy fuck lol, nicee. I'm a bit worried about the pushing myself part, but I've come...somewhat of a ways in terms of getting to work, I guess. Will have to work on working for sure <_> thanks
On August 15 2013 05:45 babylon wrote: If you don't really like anything in particular and aren't particularly great at anything in particular, study whatever makes you the most money. You'll either like it, hate it, or tolerate it. If you hate it, pick up the next best thing that makes you money. So on, so forth. You're already on a good path here with CS/EE. You think most CS/EE majors are really that passionate about what they're doing? Hah.
The "study what you're passionate about" works when you know what you're passionate about, and even then, it's not about innate passion but hard work. Passion for a field of study is artificial. People end up liking what they're good at, so if you work hard and become good at a certain field, then you'll like it because your success in that field will make you feel better about yourself. It's a positive feedback loop. You want to like CS/EE, and you're not terrible at it? Work hard, become good at it, and you'll probably like it.
Anyways, I think a lot of bright people are overconfident when they are young, but as they grow up, they learn to tone it back. That's good; you won't get hit by a hammer when you realize you're not the smartest person in your class (and hell, someone has to be in the bottom 25%, though since you are so worried about college, I'm sure you will make sure you are not in the bottom 25%). Humility's good for a person.
Two weeks left, go do something relaxing, and try not to worry too much. You'll have time enough to stress out and worry when school starts.
Wow I never knew that's how it worked for a lot of people :O hm. And yeah one of my pet peeves is people who are just clearly lacking in humility
Thanks for all the advice, will just have to plug away and try to relaxxx T.T
On August 15 2013 05:58 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: dude college will be fine.
you will spend the first two weeks completely drunk and afterwards youll have a bunch of friends. Then youll notice its pretty much how school used to be, except that now results do count.
LOL interesting way of putting it :D welcome week should be a blast lol
On August 15 2013 06:02 ]343[ wrote: spend less time on TL and more time working and you'll do fine
you're no different than any other kid entering college. Just stick to gen ed classes at first, take a few electives in stuff that interests you. you don't really have to declare until the end of your second year.
unless you are receiving scholarship money, don't be afraid to take off a semester or two to go travel, work a bit in some fields that interest you. it is drilled from early on that you go to college right away, but delaying for a bit is good for a lot of people
Ah gotcha. Yeah I definitely want to travel but I'm not sure yet whether it could be study/research abroad or whether I'd actually have to take a semester off entirely in order to travel, probably the latter though. Last time I won't be working full-time and all, so yeah...just wanna have fun too :X thanks!!
I'm saying don't bother taking courses for your major until you absolutely have to. Do your general credits, take electives in stuff that interests you... if two years from now you are genuinely unsure of what to do, consider taking a leave and working for a bit in a field that interests you. Or travel for a few months and think about it. Delaying for a year or so >>> studying something you're gonna hate 2 years into your career
QuanticHawk: Ahh okay, that makes sense for sure. Would be silly to get a degree for the sake of it and end up with something you don't want to do at all yeah.
This is the longest post I have ever seen Aerisky write.
The big difference between high school and college/the real world is effort vs focus. In high school, it was basically whoever put the most effort into their work wins. In college, nobody will be impressed by you getting straight As; what they want to see is that you have defined interests and goals and that you are working towards those goals.
well, about 96% of people that are going to college in september are having the exact same thoughts as you right now and would describe themselves the same way
Lol stop being lazy and you're fine. I'm a CS graduate, started with like no experience. Now I'm doing wonderfully! Work hard! It's a simple choice, you can do it.
Jerubaal: Hey, I do have quite a few long posts! I just used to post extremely high-volume so despite the ratio of quick:long posts, I do have a lot of long posts D: ...overall yes it's mostly short ones though lol. And ah I see. I guess knowing what you want to do and showing that you are striving toward them is very import :X
shizaep: hahaha yeah apparently this seems to be the case according to everyone, I gotcha!
jrkirby: I've heard...also a little scary because almost everybody has taken AP compsci at least afaik, and a lot of them already have projects/job experience under their belts sigh. Gonna be tough to measure up.
CecilSunkure: will try to stop being lazy!! Been trying for years with little to no success, but perhaps something will click this time and I'll get my shit together. Glad to hear you're doing well
Nah you don't need to take any terrible AP CS classes. Like I said I'm doing great and started from ground zero. It doesn't matter. Those noobs you call classmates will probably need to unlearn a bunch of shit anyways, or will be all cocky and that sort of attitude hinders growth.
For some reason, the US education system thinks you should know what you want to do with your life from the moment of conception. University is about experiential learning. You shouldn't be expected to discover your passion before you've experienced it.
well congrats on over 10k posts, that means you have a large dedication towards TL! That ALSO means, the majority of time you spend throughout your day can be derived from browsing the internet.
College is the best time to meet people and make new friends! Make new friends and go from there
CecilSunkure: haha gotcha! Learning ground-up can be good in a way too, I suppose!
N.geNuity: touché T.T rofl
Oboeman: yeah I definitely want to do that, in fact I'm worried that class will take away from that, since being actually able to interact with people and live life is obviously much more important than the extra little bit of time spent slaving away (admittedly sometimes it might be crunch/procrastination time though).
Disregard: I've heard, just have to sit there and code code code code if you actually want to be any good.
HolyExlxF: I agree! Wished it were that easy to know what you want to do.
Race is Terran: yes this is true lol, way too much time on the internet. And yeah! Since everyone's close by and everything, will be much easier to meet up and chill etc.
Considering you got into Berk, I'd say that if you've got no direction now, you'll probably have it within the next 3 years haha. I have faith in you Aerisky, keep us updated. I'm in a similar boat though, idk how college is gonna go, sink or swim.
On August 15 2013 07:09 QuanticHawk wrote: I'm saying don't bother taking courses for your major until you absolutely have to. Do your general credits, take electives in stuff that interests you... if two years from now you are genuinely unsure of what to do, consider taking a leave and working for a bit in a field that interests you. Or travel for a few months and think about it. Delaying for a year or so >>> studying something you're gonna hate 2 years into your career
I've gotta say this is what I did too, ended up doing a finance major. However I hear that it doesn't work so well for science/engineering majors as they have many subjects with a long chain of prerequisites compared to business/art/humanities people, so they are under more pressure to take the necessary subjects early, or take more semesters to graduate.
you should hold off on college if you dont know what to do and dont waste your time/money. This day and age there's a ton of MOOC's for you to use to see if you even like ANY academic subject, school really isnt for everyone, and I'd even say it isnt for most people. Fuck what other people think and do what you enjoy
On August 15 2013 12:08 Divinek wrote: you should hold off on college if you dont know what to do and dont waste your time/money. This day and age there's a ton of MOOC's for you to use to see if you even like ANY academic subject, school really isnt for everyone, and I'd even say it isnt for most people. Fuck what other people think and do what you enjoy
Yeah, ideally everyone should go out and try to experience what they want to devote their career on. But not everyone has the chance and some people need to choose a school before a degree.
docvoc: yeah best of luck to you too :/ dam college u scary :[
targ: this is sort of true, we don't have that many prereqs, but it's definitely very structured with what we take.
Race is Terran: definitely not accounting, would like to work in the US, corporate ladder/company-wise I'm not sure. I like the idea of doing ops or being a quant or something. It would be cool to be a pure administrative genius or something like that but I'm probably not lol. tbh I don't much about finance, I just like the idea of understanding money flows, interacting with other people about strategies, and analyzing systems/seeing things nobody else can with money which is so important I guess? <_>
Divinek: yeah ideally I would already know, but I have sort-of-kind-of-maybe an idea as to what to do, and I would rather jump straight into things than sit at home unemployed or working a min wage job while doing MOOCs :/
LosingID8: wtf totally uncalled for T.T wait no really? i thought it was only supposed to be ucsd or something ;__;
On August 15 2013 13:39 Aerisky wrote: Race is Terran: definitely not accounting, would like to work in the US, corporate ladder/company-wise I'm not sure. I like the idea of doing ops or being a quant or something. It would be cool to be a pure administrative genius or something like that but I'm probably not lol. tbh I don't much about finance, I just like the idea of understanding money flows, interacting with other people about strategies, and analyzing systems/seeing things nobody else can with money which is so important I guess? <_>
check out some econ classes, and try not to lose your soul in the process. or you can even try poli sci with an emphasis on quant research (not necessarily just about money, but that's certainly an area you can focus in if you're interested). quant analysis in poli sci is even becoming the "in" thing; if you want to do something with a ba poli sci degree these days, you also need to take some stat and econ classes as well ... experience with coding never hurts also.
On August 15 2013 13:39 Aerisky wrote: Race is Terran: definitely not accounting, would like to work in the US, corporate ladder/company-wise I'm not sure. I like the idea of doing ops or being a quant or something. It would be cool to be a pure administrative genius or something like that but I'm probably not lol. tbh I don't much about finance, I just like the idea of understanding money flows, interacting with other people about strategies, and analyzing systems/seeing things nobody else can with money which is so important I guess? <_>
check out some econ classes, and try not to lose your soul in the process. or you can even try poli sci with an emphasis on quant research (not necessarily just about money, but that's certainly an area you can focus in if you're interested). quant analysis in poli sci is even becoming the "in" thing; if you want to do something with a ba poli sci degree these days, you also need to take some stat and econ classes as well ... experience with coding never hurts also.
lots of options. poke around.
That coding advice is gold, I need to learn how to code in at least one language also.
cam: we'll see :O math is hard though, my love for math is completely unrequited (jk probably just haven't put in enough work)
babylon: oh wow that's really interesting babylon. Yeah I'm thinking about maybe double majoring or ending up minoring in cs with a major somewhere else, so I def plan on taking some econ courses, or undergrad biz admin stuff. Will definitely poke around
Thing about college is you sort of just discover what you wanna do. Don't worry. I would say talk to an advisor they can help guide you on what you should be doing.
Just make sure you take enough calculus courses to get into calculus based probability in your third or fourth year Also learn c++ and Matlab, c++ from the cs dept and Matlab hopefully from the engineering dept That's If u want quant finance as a masters degree anyway
cam: THANK YOU VERY MUCH CAM!!! Ah I see interesting, I'll probably have to take like discrete math and stuff like that anyway <_> and ye, I want to learn C then C++, matlab isn't required for me actually but I might learn it anyway I guess :X thanksthanks!!
A lot of trading firms hire programmers for automated trading systems and such tht have really really strong computing backgrounds So if you wanted to be a guy coding the trading algorithms you probably wouldn't get enough programming experience doing quant finance, you'd need to do full on cs at the masters level minimum probably
I jumped ship to CS like a noob too bad CS requirements suck, so math major it is... but also too bad I spent all my time taking algebraic topology instead of "useful CS classes"
Oh snap I see cam. Yeah those algorithms are insane though, can't imagine how people come up with those models. Hmm good to know and think about, sounds tough >_<
Ahaha...except you're actually sooooo much better than me at math 343 like you can't believe (but yea the more you know, the more you realize how little you know kinda idea maybe). But I believe in youuu gogogo~
I've already learned Obj.C and can recognize basic programming statements and read code from other languages like Java and Python. I don't recognize all of it of course, but just knowing the 1 language helps a lot since I waste less time going 'printf wtf is that?'
I'm quite excited for College! Let's find out how smart and hard working I am. I'll be majoring in either Math or Physics. I'll start with both but I don't see myself continuing that. Everybody tells me I will do fine. Whatever. So that's what I will tell you: "You'll be fine"
College affords you tremendous new opportunity in terms of searching for your niche (both socially and education-wise). You can re-invent yourself and no longer be the social outcast that had no friends in high school, and can actually take novel courses that aren't strictly English, history, (hard) science, or mathematics. Regardless of whether or not you're concerned with being undecided with a major, you should spend your freshman year taking classes that look interesting (although preferably ones that also fulfill a general education requirement as well, so that they count towards your graduation). You won't regret taking interesting classes, and you'll be motivated to actually do well in them too! And maybe you'll even learn something
@DarkPlasmaBall How lucky am I to be taking 3 Programming courses that my HS offers? 3 years straight. 1st - basic knowledge of programming, history of computers, C, Obj C, programming for iOS (Course was introduced 2 years ago) -Sophomore year just finished 2nd - Java, data structures, etc. (Course was introduced last year) -Junior year, going into this September 3rd - Java, more advanced stuff (Course is being introduced this year) - Senior year, planning to go into next year
What I'm interested in is what sort of colleges/courses I should look at. I'm not sure what to go into CS/Security/Game Programming/etc. wise. I live in NJ and am planning to go to county college for 2 years first to get basic stuff like english done so I can focus on programming in my next 2 years at a real college. Plus, it is a lot easier for my parents to deal with money-wise.
Obviously, money is an important issue. I went to Rutgers, which is cheap but still a Top 100 university (and I'm still there, doing my PhD), and I'm also teaching at NJIT.
If you're going to transfer from a county college to another (or, in general, any college to a second college), make sure your credits actually transfer! There's no point in taking classes at one place if you have to retake the same classes at the second place
And as far as your major (e.g., CS) is concerned, each college will surely have an extensive list of necessary courses and prerequisites you'll need to complete your degree.
You'll be fine. Just ignore tank, drinking is only fun when done responsibly in a controlled environment when you don't have any work to focus on. And yes I am full of shit
On August 16 2013 01:42 Jaaaaasper wrote: You'll be fine. Just ignore tank, drinking is only fun when done responsibly in a controlled environment when you don't have any work to focus on. And yes I am full of shit
So basically don't drink just for the purpose of getting drunk. Got it.
On August 16 2013 00:48 3FFA wrote: \ I live in NJ and am planning to go to county college for 2 years first to get basic stuff like english done so I can focus on programming in my next 2 years at a real college. Plus, it is a lot easier for my parents to deal with money-wise.
smart man. I wish I thought of this when I was that age.
See if whatever cc you are going to has a degree in fields that might interest you. It won't mean a whole lot as far as employment most likely, and your teachers will probably be pretty meh, but it will at least be a head start.
On August 16 2013 01:42 Jaaaaasper wrote: You'll be fine. Just ignore tank, drinking is only fun when done responsibly in a controlled environment when you don't have any work to focus on. And yes I am full of shit
dont put words in my mouth, im not telling him to go out and party
On August 16 2013 00:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: College affords you tremendous new opportunity in terms of searching for your niche (both socially and education-wise). You can re-invent yourself and no longer be the social outcast that had no friends in high school, and can actually take novel courses that aren't strictly English, history, (hard) science, or mathematics. Regardless of whether or not you're concerned with being undecided with a major, you should spend your freshman year taking classes that look interesting (although preferably ones that also fulfill a general education requirement as well, so that they count towards your graduation). You won't regret taking interesting classes, and you'll be motivated to actually do well in them too! And maybe you'll even learn something
Yeah for sure, I'm taking a seminar! Tbh I'm not even sure I will enjoy engineering (and definitely not "hard" sciences) so we'll see I guess. I definitely want to take some random interesting classes, the seminars here are fantastic and there are also lots of other novel classes as you say. We have a system called deCal with student-run, faculty-endorsed classes in all sorts of kick-ass stuff (most famously bw on TL). Though I also do want to take an upper div social studies class perhaps.
also I resent this TOTES WRONG assumption lol
and no longer be the social outcast that had no friends in high school
On August 16 2013 01:42 Jaaaaasper wrote: You'll be fine. Just ignore tank, drinking is only fun when done responsibly in a controlled environment when you don't have any work to focus on. And yes I am full of shit
ahaha, I see. In moderation etcetc :o
On August 16 2013 11:21 cam connor wrote: wow i feel like bullying somebody after seeing that video
Like many others have said this is just a discovery phase for you right now. Some people aren't even sure what they really want to do after college. Some people find out what they want to do way after they had decided their major, and it turned out to be something that wasn't even remotely related. You'll come to that point where you have your "Aha!" moment eventually and decide what to do in the next chapter of your life.
Just remember though, time is precious. Make use of the time you've spent in college. I sure as hell dicked around too but I can at least look back at the mistakes I've made and improve my life by learning from them.
On August 17 2013 02:51 Snuggles wrote: Like many others have said this is just a discovery phase for you right now. Some people aren't even sure what they really want to do after college. Some people find out what they want to do way after they had decided their major, and it turned out to be something that wasn't even remotely related. You'll come to that point where you have your "Aha!" moment eventually and decide what to do in the next chapter of your life.
Just remember though, time is precious. Make use of the time you've spent in college. I sure as hell dicked around too but I can at least look back at the mistakes I've made and improve my life by learning from them.
Ah gotcha, yeah I hope my moment comes soon XD definitely a time to make the most of.
Also yes after college you could be making 5, 6 figures, but during college you get to party/have fun/chill/go out with people for a lot of the time--after college, you're going to be working full time (no homework but work isn't necessarily too easy and whatnot :X) and work takes a lot of your time away. So it's that much important to find a job you really like I guess :D
Both work and college are tiring in different ways. If you do a 9 to 5 kind of job, it's not necessarily that it takes a lot of your time away, it's that it leaves you too drained after you come home to do anything except sleep and maybe watch TV. But you can shelve your work and not have to think about it until you go in to work the next day.
For college, grad school, and basically any career in academia, sure, you can work at your own pace as long as you get things done eventually, but you also pretty much have work on your mind all the time, and that can take just as much of a toll on you. Even in undergrad, whenever my friends and I went out to have fun downtown or something, we brought our work with us nine times out of ten. This type of attitude is especially prevalent at schools filled with academically minded folks (like Berkeley).
Ah that makes sense, since (in one perspective at least) you're ultimately there to learn/study, so it will always be on your mind. Ideally I'd be able to stay on top of things though and shelve my schoolwork in much the same way you might like to keep work-work off your mind. I'd rather enjoy myself when I can without having to bring work with me etc, personally that would feel like kind of a buzzkill, but perhaps there's nothing that can be done about it.
On August 17 2013 11:14 Burrfoot wrote: Any random comp sci major working in finance is making 6 figures. High speed trading shenanigans.
I wouldnt go that far considering the vast majority of comp sci people in finance are just your average run of the mill application developers at banks
if they're competent they'll still be making 6 figures around late 20s early 30s though. it's jsut turnover is quite high.
On August 17 2013 07:25 babylon wrote: Both work and college are tiring in different ways. If you do a 9 to 5 kind of job, it's not necessarily that it takes a lot of your time away, it's that it leaves you too drained after you come home to do anything except sleep and maybe watch TV. But you can shelve your work and not have to think about it until you go in to work the next day.
For college, grad school, and basically any career in academia, sure, you can work at your own pace as long as you get things done eventually, but you also pretty much have work on your mind all the time, and that can take just as much of a toll on you. Even in undergrad, whenever my friends and I went out to have fun downtown or something, we brought our work with us nine times out of ten. This type of attitude is especially prevalent at schools filled with academically minded folks (like Berkeley).
Aah. I love that though. Thinking about how to solve problems all day. Maybe discuss the problems with your friends. It's great when there isn't any stress like an exam coming up.
On August 16 2013 12:31 rabidch wrote: You know what is scarier? Life after college.
Fixed that for you
I heard it is also less fun.
it is less fun. your income only exponentially increases :/ whats so fun about making a 5 figure salary and not having to worry about homework?
Or 6 figure
psh, show me a 20 something year old that makes 6 figures and I will show you a code S championship winner
I'm pretty sure starting salaries at places like Google/Facebook are at least 90k
Regardless, those are industry exceptions.
Figures vary, but ~50k at least for a STEM major is fairly common for a fresh college graduate. With a few years of work experience, that increases rapidly.
Welcome to Berkeley EECS! The intro programming course(s) (61A, B, C) are do-able without programming experience - my friends have done it and they survived though granted they had to put a lot of effort into it.
EPT
Both in terms of how "smart" I am and how hard-working I am (not very much at all, for both). My study habits stink, I spend like all day aimlessly browsing the web online, and I can't just get by with genius or anything. <__<
I'm still excited, to be sure, but mostly scared. Oh yeah and obviously with studies, I'm super worried that I won't even have enough time to have fun, hang out, meet people, etc etc T___T
