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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 07:05:05
June 28 2013 06:49 GMT
#1
++ is commonly pronounced as "plus plus".

Lets get down to business: the ++ operator in C and C++ is crazy. Here some rules off the top of my head:

+ Show Spoiler [rules] +
i represents a whole number
i++ represents post-increment
post increment has the following properties:
-increments the value i and returns a copy of i made before the increment
-generally creates unnecessary copies of things when used with builtin types
-Cannot be used on rvalues afaik

++i is pre-increment
Properties of pre-increment
-generally the preferred operator for increments
-most of the time has less side-effects than post-increment
-usually results in more readable code
-increments i and returns the incremented i value


The ++ operator is like an addon to the normal + operator. It's an extension like many other ++ things.

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An example of a ++ thing that exist as an extension to another thing


Now enough of that. ++ is also used in the name of the language C++ as C++ was built by some dude named Bjarne Stroustrup. C++ can be thought of as mostly a big expansion set to C.

Okay computer sciency things are done.

There's a thingy called Notepad++ and acts as a replacement for Microsoft's shitty Notepad program that comes packaged with Windows. Notepad++ has a bunch of other features that really should have been in Notepad (like reading Linux newlines -.-).

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See? ++ things exist.


LASTLY there's TL+. Sure, we all have seen TL+ and it's pretty cool to support TL. However there's also TL++. Clearly we can see that ++ is significant in the C and C++ language in multiples ways. Notepad++ is like an extension or replacement for Notepad.

So this begs the question... Could there be a TL++ expansion to TL+? Is this getting meta on you? Lets call TL++ TLMeta. All the ++.

In TLMeta there's lots of news about the news that goes in the TL+ forum. All the information and all the posts in TLMeta are about the stuff in TL+. How is this fun? Well the magic is that if someone posts in TLMeta about something, even if it isn't truly in TL+ then it will become true.

This is magic. TLMeta is not only about TL+ but it is the keeper of TL+. What happens in TLMeta comes to be.

How can we get TLMeta or get to TLMeta? It's like the 4th dimension. We can only mathematically or logically think about the 4th dimension but we can't really experience it or understand it in a very intuitive or natural way.

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Warped time because TLMeta


It exists and it is happening. People are posting in TLMeta all the time, and these people are actually about the people in TL+. I know all this meta is getting a little crazy.

The point is, here's a logimagical proof that TLMeta exists for all you non-believers:

TL is a website
TL+ exists and we are in it
Therefor to keep the ball rolling
TLMeta exists and it is about we


It is the only way imo. u gotta skate

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LeeARK
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
June 28 2013 06:59 GMT
#2
I'm wondering if somebody spiked Cecil's drink... or if he has too much free time on his hands.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
June 28 2013 07:55 GMT
#3
So.... why is C# called C Sharp... instead of C pound sign or C hash..
Rillanon.au
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
June 28 2013 07:59 GMT
#4
On June 28 2013 16:55 haduken wrote:
So.... why is C# called C Sharp... instead of C pound sign or C hash..


i assume its because its creator preferred music of telephones or drugs
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
June 28 2013 08:03 GMT
#5
Oh no, we've been discovered
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
June 28 2013 08:03 GMT
#6
the +ception is strong in this blog, 5/5
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#7
On June 28 2013 16:59 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 16:55 haduken wrote:
So.... why is C# called C Sharp... instead of C pound sign or C hash..


i assume its because its creator preferred music of telephones or drugs

Indeed, C# is actually written C♯ by Microsoft on boxart etc, C# is used simply because the hash is easier to write on a keyboard.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 28 2013 10:20 GMT
#8
The # is actually just two overlapping + signs. So it's C[++ in a single character].
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
June 28 2013 10:25 GMT
#9
TL++ isn't far enough we need TL#.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
June 28 2013 10:27 GMT
#10
Yay, Bjarne Stoustrup was from my Uni. Aarhus, Aarhus, Aarhus!!!!!!
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 28 2013 11:13 GMT
#11
Cecil, due to time being warped, I do not know of this thing you call 'TL+' and thus I have no knowledge of how an expansion could ever be made. If you wouldn't mind going into more detail, I would be grateful.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Toboe
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States276 Posts
June 28 2013 11:23 GMT
#12
I wanted to gift you TL++ for this blog, but couldn't find the button. Then I realized you had already transcended to the level where you were already a part of TL++. well played
Immortals are your friend, you can tell by the way they waddle at you
uZr
Profile Joined April 2011
20 Posts
June 28 2013 11:26 GMT
#13
+ are everywhere! It's a conspiration ! These guys were well aware of it !
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 28 2013 11:32 GMT
#14
Yay C++, the only language that I'm pretty competent with (I guess I know a bit of Java). I have so much to learn
dreaming of a sunny day
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
June 28 2013 11:52 GMT
#15
I say TL switches things up and upgrades TL+ to +TL+ or started with TL. And incrementally went to TL.. TL... all the way past 9000.s
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Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 12:12:50
June 28 2013 12:12 GMT
#16
What is reality but what's perceived? Life imitates art. Wait, I must have that wrong.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 12:43:23
June 28 2013 12:24 GMT
#17
On June 28 2013 20:52 Burrfoot wrote:
I say TL switches things up and upgrades TL+ to +TL+ or started with TL. And incrementally went to TL.. TL... all the way past 9000.s

Ahh so do something like
    
BOOL newday; //is it a new day? Yes or no answers only.

//other code to define newday would most likely go here.

if(newday = YES) // if it is a new day...
{
double TLplus = 9000; //9000 TL+
for (int TL=1; TL < TLplus; TL++) //endless loop is endless
{
printf("Sup Oh Great And All Powerful Master Wizard R1CH"); //Say hi to R1CH
printf("/n you are now %i R1CH in TL",TL); //TL, new currency.
TLplus ++; //OVER 9000 TL+!
newday = NO; //not a new day anymore :(
return TL; //because why not?
}
}
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19315 Posts
June 28 2013 13:36 GMT
#18
On June 28 2013 21:24 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 20:52 Burrfoot wrote:
I say TL switches things up and upgrades TL+ to +TL+ or started with TL. And incrementally went to TL.. TL... all the way past 9000.s

Ahh so do something like
    
BOOL newday; //is it a new day? Yes or no answers only.

//other code to define newday would most likely go here.

if(newday = YES) // if it is a new day...
{
double TLplus = 9000; //9000 TL+
for (int TL=1; TL < TLplus; TL++) //endless loop is endless
{
printf("Sup Oh Great And All Powerful Master Wizard R1CH"); //Say hi to R1CH
printf("/n you are now %i R1CH in TL",TL); //TL, new currency.
TLplus ++; //OVER 9000 TL+!
newday = NO; //not a new day anymore :(
return TL; //because why not?
}
}


//endless loop is endless

Your loop only runs once.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 28 2013 13:55 GMT
#19
That indentation is genius.

Is that a MS troolean type? It should be obvious, but if YES resolves to true, the condition will always be true. Well, if operator= isn't overloaded in some way at least.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 28 2013 13:58 GMT
#20
Does it go to the if statement first? I thought it went to the for statement first. >.>
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
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