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thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 16:52:45
December 21 2012 16:51 GMT
#21
Hey dude, i totally understand you. Most of the games i play in SP i get bored, i don't know why, i see the game awesome, storyline awesome, awesome environment and settings, cool graphics... but i still get bored. So basically i gave up on SP games a while ago. I would give some a try here and there but thats about it. Games i love now are dota 2 and it used to be sc2. I love the competition, depth, esport, community. Oh well, thats how it is.

What i still find awesome is reading books. And that comes very close to SP gaming (its not the same but still its close ). And i don't read a lot. I read maybe 30 - 60 pages a day, i move slow through the epic fantasy book but i enjoy it as much as possible, i find it fun and maybe its a good replacement for SP games. You may try that
Hug-A-Hydralisk
Profile Joined February 2012
United States174 Posts
December 21 2012 17:52 GMT
#22
I also felt like my imagination was fading away as I was growing up, I couldn't get lost in games anymore like I used to. But then I got into a university and discovered cannabis, since then my imagination has been returning and I find myself getting lost once again in the newer generation of Blizzard games like Starcraft II and Diablo III
Playing them once again now injects me with large quantities of nostalgia and Dae Ja Vou.

I feel like there are conservative pockets of society in the United States that still reject this notion of The Internet because its a form of culture that has only been commercially around since 1995.

Losing interest in video games does not mean that you are just growing up, I think that it just means the people you're around still have a sense of rejection to this kind of entertainment.
Get your PC gaming fix here: http://www.youtube.com/cinicraft YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!
Demolicious
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia38 Posts
December 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#23
Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.
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Demolicious
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia38 Posts
December 21 2012 18:45 GMT
#24
Yeh, It's simple like my previous post, don't make it complicated. Power over mind...
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19212 Posts
December 21 2012 19:03 GMT
#25
I became a video game programmer to continue this passion. But now my passion is just for programming. I pretty much evolved the way you feel. I'm still here just because of the community. Brood War held so much for me and I keep praying SC2 would fill that void. I wish more people were disappointed with the game so it would just get a reboot. But I also feel the community on TL take a giant shift. I'm older now so age definitely plays a part. I used ot be up till 3 every night and never be tired. Now I can barely stay awake till midnight. How did that all change? These thoughts get me depressed easily, but I'm fighting to hold on for sure.
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 20:27:17
December 21 2012 20:27 GMT
#26
Same with my brothers and me, always gamed: Intellivision, NES, SNES, PC, arcade, N64, Xbox, xbox360. Good memories man, but most games now lack a good deal of substance. Couple that with how you've changed over the years, and it is really hard to capture that feeling again, for sure.

It is definitely a sad thing. Thinking about myself, I think the most recent time I had that feeling was when I got World of Warcraft in early 2005. I tried to recapture it with Age of Conan, but it totally isn't the same. I think the silver lining is that that feeling can be achieved again, for sure, but the chances for it truly are slim.
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Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
December 21 2012 20:56 GMT
#27
Basically the same thing. Single player games are a bore now and only playing against other real people provides any entertainment value. MMO's which once sucked tons of my time up are now stale and pointless.

Just the last year I started to learn programming and it has filled the void that single player games have left. Every time I learn a new concept it's the equivalent of leveling up in an mmo, every time a new block of code works it's an epic boss defeated, and whenever I can say a program is finished it's a game beaten.

Like others have said, try to find something else that will be fun for you and then go back to games when you feel the urge to. Also like someone else mentioned above, reading books is a great way to keep your mind sharp and have a good time!
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
December 21 2012 21:51 GMT
#28
really identify with the whole playing games thoroughly before, but now just running through them

I can pick up almost any of the NES/SNES/N64/PSX games that I grew up on, and know exactly what to do/where to find items/secret locations/etc. This even holds for games that I only did a single playthrough of. Curiously, I might not even be able to recall the main character's name in a game I just went through a month ago. It's more than likely that my ability to absorb information has deteriorated with time, but I think the change in approach to gaming, as you described, has had a much larger impact.

I too used to appreciate games completely. I'd play through every bit, talk to most npcs, explore every area, and try everything, pretty much. Now I just do three 8-hour sittings on a high framerate and only alter my setups as needed. I still enjoy it, but there's no immersion at all. Games all seem to follow a formula that I've already beaten to death.

qq. Well, at least there's always Dark Souls.
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peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 22:03:38
December 21 2012 21:58 GMT
#29
On December 22 2012 03:43 Demolicious wrote:
Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.

I agree with this, I think that growing up means having more factors that you think about throughout the day (job, girlfriend, money and social status). Most of us could get away with not caring about all these things when we were younger. But now, with all these things going on in our minds, I think its pretty challenging to enjoy something like the ways we used to do (being totally focused on games because we didn't have a care in the world when we were younger).

Luckily you can always train your mind to get the same feeling again, like Demolicious said, meditation does help a lot. You don't have to be open to it for meditation to work. If you just do it, it will come naturally to continue doing it. It will increase your focus and make it easier to enjoy simpler things.

Another cool development as you get older is that you can go back to enjoying simpler things without much worries, even though it may not be gaming, but nature, family and sports.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 21 2012 23:27 GMT
#30
Sounds like you need to play Majora's Mask for the first time ever.
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Unshapely
Profile Joined November 2012
140 Posts
December 22 2012 00:54 GMT
#31
Wow quite a lot of people feel the same way huh?

Man, I'm still waiting for a game that I'll be able to play with full passion. Currently i'm playing Starcraft: Brood War to feel a bit old school. I suck at it though LOL.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 01:52:21
December 22 2012 01:26 GMT
#32
I have had much of the same sensations. I am now 42 and have been a gamer since I was 13. I am very passionate about gaming, and have always been that way. Also a loner in that regard, and herein lies some differences, since my younger brother was never a factor, since he was 14 years younger and never a game, really.

I think you are feeling depressed, and quite honestly, I think that playing Starcraft isn't making you happy at all, but you fearing to let go of it, since it feels like the last bastion of a reminder of the past in correlation to what you have become, and you are clinging on to it with teeth and claws. Take a time out. You are not being passionate about it, because you are not letting yourself be that. Playing games and rushing them is taking out the whole experience. You know this, you just got focused on the end line; winning, rather than the process AND achieving the fruits of your labour, which is what you are really passionate about. You are chasing a rainbow, you do not even believe in exists, or think will pop up if you keep running. Passion finds you and grabs you, not the other way around, but you got to let go.

The differences between being a child and an playful adult is the difficulty in letting go of the responsibilities, every once in a while and be that kid. Another is life makes us more cynical with time and experience in comparison to a child. Gaming is also escaping - escaping from all the cares that we adults tend to care about(many of which we shouldn't). And escaping to a place which is your realm. A realm of enjoyment. If you are a Starcraft pro player you will also clock in results, if you do something else, and once you return you'd feel rejuvenated and happy. Let yourself get immersed - like a single player game is only able to achieve... and start having fun, like you used to, and stop making comparisons to the past - this is about finding what makes you happy - now. It may differ a bit what made you passionate in the past, but passionate people will always be that, even if they lost the path, or the path got crooked.

Maybe you are just tired of gaming...

The bane of being passionate is becoming a cynic. So never become that.
LiangHao
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 02:30:33
December 22 2012 02:26 GMT
#33
I'm somewhat surprised there are so many people that generally feel the same way. It makes me feel... not alone in that sense. It's not something I would have ever predicted happening as a kid. When I really think about it, it's so surreal.

On December 22 2012 00:42 NotoriousBig wrote:
It just seems that you get older and most people don´t enjoy gaming as much when they get older, maybe you should do something completely different and don´t play, untill you really have hunger for the games again.

Otherwise, why is it bad to go earlier to bed and live an healthy life?

I've recently been trying to force myself to get into some other activities I think I would enjoy, but when it comes down to it I find I have a severe lack of motivation.

As for the second part of your post, I didn't quite mean I would want to stay up and continue playing all the time. In fact, when I mentioned that I meant I would subconsciously even look forward to and accept it sometimes. While this sounds not so bad, I really thrive on the thrill that I get from wanting to just in my room and game, even though that's not something I do often. I just don't get the same thrill. It's like "oh? 10pm? okay, bedtime". It doesn't even feel like I'm being pulled away from anything important.
On December 21 2012 21:39 IamaGrapeMan wrote:
Perhaps you just don't like the style of these new games?
There's a lot of gamers who have realized at some point that they like the old way they make games better and that the new games are awful.

I thought that at first, but even re-playing some old games I used to appreciate I haven't been able to engage myself the same way I used to.
On December 21 2012 18:32 vOdToasT wrote:
If you want a game to be passionate about, play Planescape: Torment.

I played it this year, and it blew my mind. It was so good that I'm going to play it again, with different party members so I can learn more about the story.

It also gave me that feeling or looking forward to continuing it, after coming home from school, or after waking up. I don't care for most games. I only play a few multiplayer games, and almost no single player games, because most of them bore me. So that this game interested me as much as it did (and still does, even after I have beaten it) says something about it.

I'll take that recommendation and give it a chance. Hopefully I see it the way you do
On December 22 2012 01:51 thOr6136 wrote:
Hey dude, i totally understand you. Most of the games i play in SP i get bored, i don't know why, i see the game awesome, storyline awesome, awesome environment and settings, cool graphics... but i still get bored. So basically i gave up on SP games a while ago. I would give some a try here and there but thats about it. Games i love now are dota 2 and it used to be sc2. I love the competition, depth, esport, community. Oh well, thats how it is.

What i still find awesome is reading books. And that comes very close to SP gaming (its not the same but still its close ). And i don't read a lot. I read maybe 30 - 60 pages a day, i move slow through the epic fantasy book but i enjoy it as much as possible, i find it fun and maybe its a good replacement for SP games. You may try that

That sounds like something I'd be willing to try. I don't really know where or what to start with though. I think I would most enjoy fiction/adventure/mystery/action. I suppose that's something I would need to play around with.
On December 22 2012 02:52 Hug-A-Hydralisk wrote:
I also felt like my imagination was fading away as I was growing up, I couldn't get lost in games anymore like I used to. But then I got into a university and discovered cannabis, since then my imagination has been returning and I find myself getting lost once again in the newer generation of Blizzard games like Starcraft II and Diablo III
Playing them once again now injects me with large quantities of nostalgia and Dae Ja Vou.

I feel like there are conservative pockets of society in the United States that still reject this notion of The Internet because its a form of culture that has only been commercially around since 1995.

Losing interest in video games does not mean that you are just growing up, I think that it just means the people you're around still have a sense of rejection to this kind of entertainment.

To add to this, I actually feel a rush like that when I game while stoned as well. I don't particularly care for the act of smoking though; I've kind of been contemplating getting a vapourizer.
On December 22 2012 03:43 Demolicious wrote:
Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.

Heheh it never even crossed my mind to try something like this. Do you have any specific techniques or information to help a noob try it out?
On December 22 2012 08:27 ninazerg wrote:
Sounds like you need to play Majora's Mask for the first time ever.

I've already played through Majora's Mask a good half dozen times at least
On December 22 2012 10:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
I have had much of the same sensations. I am now 42 and have been a gamer since I was 13. I am very passionate about gaming, and have always been that way. Also a loner in that regard, and herein lies some differences, since my younger brother was never a factor, since he was 14 years younger and never a game, really.

I think you are feeling depressed, and quite honestly, I think that playing Starcraft isn't making you happy at all, but you fearing to let go of it, since it feels like the last bastion of a reminder of the past in correlation to what you have become, and you are clinging on to it with teeth and claws. Take a time out. You are not being passionate about it, because you are not letting yourself be that. Playing games and rushing them is taking out the whole experience. You know this, you just got focused on the end line; winning, rather than the process AND achieving the fruits of your labour, which is what you are really passionate about. You are chasing a rainbow, you do not even believe in exists, or think will pop up if you keep running. Passion finds you and grabs you, not the other way around, but you got to let go.

The differences between being a child and an playful adult is the difficulty in letting go of the responsibilities, every once in a while and be that kid. Another is life makes us more cynical with time and experience in comparison to a child. Gaming is also escaping - escaping from all the cares that we adults tend to care about(many of which we shouldn't). And escaping to a place which is your realm. A realm of enjoyment. If you are a Starcraft pro player you will also clock in results, if you do something else, and once you return you'd feel rejuvenated and happy. Let yourself get immersed - like a single player game is only able to achieve... and start having fun, like you used to, and stop making comparisons to the past - this is about finding what makes you happy - now. It may differ a bit what made you passionate in the past, but passionate people will always be that, even if they lost the path, or the path got crooked.

Maybe you are just tired of gaming...

The bane of being passionate is becoming a cynic. So never become that.

You're right in that regard. It really isn't about being amazed and astounded by StarCraft as a game, it's the community and social aspect of it more than anything that I feel attached to. I truly do feel happy being a part of it too. I wouldn't even be surprised if I were just on TL posting in the forums and not actually playing the game in the future.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:04:53
December 22 2012 03:53 GMT
#34
And you will always be part of it, as long as you so desire. By that I mean your true desire, and not chasing a fragment of past enjoyment, that no longer exists from the "same" experience. Just like when it comes to gaming - whatever the game genre it is. No decision like this is unchangeable. Just like experiences. Both when leaving and when returning.

Thanks for your blog btw.

That sounds like something I'd be willing to try. I don't really know where or what to start with though. I think I would most enjoy fiction/adventure/mystery/action. I suppose that's something I would need to play around with.
Reading a book is a good idea. May I recommend The Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov or maybe pick up some book on which a movie you really like is based upon. It's a place to start if nothing else, and it is the start that is the toughest part.
LiangHao
fredd
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Estonia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:06:28
December 22 2012 04:06 GMT
#35
I get where all of you are coming from. Although I can't smoke anymore these days due to health issues, weed always brought me back to that childlike wonder (not only in games aswell). Just a thought.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 22 2012 04:08 GMT
#36
Sure thing, I'll start a notepad file with book titles/authors to look in to. One that I've been consider as of late is the original novel that Metro 2033 was based off it (as per it's wiki). I haven't actually played the game through yet, but I got it for free recently and I've heard great things about both the book and game.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
December 22 2012 04:17 GMT
#37
Same here. I used to play RPGs on the SNES for hours and hours, and in my head when I was away from the console. Then there were online games like UO and Starcraft that I would play with a friend any time we could during the week, and on weekends nearly all day and night. These days I just can't get into any games (a little bit of Dungeon Crawl now and then). It's still sort of fun to watch other people play in streams, but my passion for it is dead. Sometimes I wish I'd spent all that limitless energy I used to have on something that would give me more return later... like artists, crafters, athletes etc. Sometimes I feel sad looking at the pale, hunched over kids that play games all day, thinking that in a few decades they might regret it as well, and wonder where all the time and the "passion" went. Oh well, life is funny.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
December 22 2012 11:48 GMT
#38
I think this is something very close to being male. This is exactly why you see so many males in their 30 and 40's furiously collecting Atari, Amiga en Sega stuff from their childhood. They want to relive that feeling they had as a kid.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
December 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#39
Books man, off the beaten path here are a few of my favorites:
Startide Rising
Starship Troopers
A Princess of Mars
Gord the Rogue
3 Hearts and 3 Lions
Neuromancer
Snow Crash

There are so many more man but that's a killer list right there!
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