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Hi,
I'm no experienced writer, so this is going to be a poorly constructed string of thoughts running through my head and I'll mostly just be writing them down as I go.
Lately I've been wondering why I don't get as much enjoyment playing specific games as I did when I was younger.
When I was younger me and my older brother had a NES, SNES, N64, and a Genesis (and eventually gamecube/PSX/PS2/etc). I don't remember how we got our games, but we probably had half a dozen for each one or more.
Naturally when I was younger I'd have quite the surplus of free time, especially on the weekends when school was out. Me and my brother loved to game. We were nearly addicted to video games and played every game we had thoroughly.
Key word thoroughly. When I was a kid I hadn't a care in the world. My mind was growing and other than basic education in school it would absorb every bit of detail and information that would be presented to me in games.
I'd play those video games like I developed them. I was intimate with everything: characters, storylines, equipment on my RPG characters, etc. I'd have Sabin's blitz codes memorized off the top of my head, where all the secret level finishes were in Super Mario. I'd have the layout of the entire city memorized in GTA3, etc. I can go on.
There was a slight difference between single player games and multiplayer games for me though.
Multiplayer games would be thrilling to play with my brother. Being close brothers, we'd literally fight all the time, but were born to complete with each other in every sense, especially video games. I wouldn't care what game we'd play; we'd play to win and would focus on solely that. There was only so much you needed to memorize the game, then the rest was just improvement of skill.
Single player games were of a different matter, not that I feel there was anything wrong with the enjoyment I would get from multiplayer games.
Playing through the game I would honestly appreciate all the aspects of the game. I would enjoy doing sidequests and reading what useless townsfolk have to say. I felt so attached to these games and my brain would absorb endless amounts of information. I didn't want these games to end. I wish the story of games like Chrono Trigger would go on, neverending.
Now, to the point. As I've aged I feel like that ability to hold the capacity and attention necessary to appreciate these games has come to a halt. It's disturbing, and makes me depressed thinking about it.
I play modern games that no doubt have crazy graphics, huge depth in story and evolve around your actions and decisions, but I find it hard to enjoy them still. Critically, there's nothing I can point out in particular wrong with the game, but I don't have that patience, memory, or appreciation for these games that I once did.
When I was younger I would look forward to waking up the following day and proceeding with the quest I was pulled from as my parents put me to bed. On the weekends I'd stay up as late as I could and would quite literally fall asleep at the TV occasionally.
Now I look at the clock every hour when gaming and go "well, guess I gotta go to bed or I'm gonna pass out at work tomorrow". I feel like there's so many games out there that are definitely good and worth playing, but that I am rushing through them just to say I've beaten them.
Not being there side by side with my brother bragging to eachother and watching eachother also makes me feel rather lonely in that regard.
It feels like my life is now filled with more important stuff, and I'm not living in the stress-free world that I once did as a kid. I know it's just part of life, but I really miss that passion and enjoyment that I once had. It's rather depressing thinking about it for some reason to be honest.
One game that I feel I've been attached to despite all this loss of what I would imagine is "passion", is StarCraft. And I think that's mostly because of this community and how I feel like it's taken that role of my brother. People I can share my thoughts with and a game I can never get bored of no matter how many times I play it. No matter how much I've grown out of gaming.
I almost feel like Starcraft is that last bit of living happiness that I still actively appreciate. Other than that... the feeling is gone.
I'm mostly just writing this down to get my thoughts out, but I'd be genuinely interested to know if this is something that any of you guys have experienced and where it's taken you.
If I could really cram these words into a tl;dr I would, but this IS my tl;dr haha.
Anyway, I'll wrap it up here, because I have to work in the morning.
 
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Maybe it's time you parted with video games?
Perhaps it's merely another phase of life. Many people go through stages of their life that are distinct from each other. I've been thinking along the same thoughts as you. I realized that none of these new games are important to me. None of these are games that I could...fall in love with. Legend of Zelda, OOT was a game that controlled my very world outlook. I decided that the world was comprised of the six elements: light, shadow, earth(forest), fire, water, and spirit. The storyline was divine. The purity of youth being fouled and the individual being forced into growing up too early. The intimate bond between two childhood friends. A great big world that, at the time, seemed endless and scary - though the scariness was both horrifying (shadow temple boss, Ganon, forest temple) and empowering (escaping from gerudo fortress and defeating those feisty women, figuring out the daunting puzzles from the forest temple to water temple and spirit temple). These are all elements of my own life at the time, so it's natural they had an even more significant impact. It took a while for me to give that up, and I would never find anything that would capture my heart again.
And hey, maybe it's just the industry and the world around us that's changed. All you can do is make a new life for yourself or you'll be living in the past all your life like Fry was in that episode he had the can of sardines.
I think your brain has just advanced further than your emotional processing speed. Or in other words, your brain needs to be beating those games in top speed or it will lag behind and decay, but at the same time this renders you unable to really engage in a single storyline and game.
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Grobyc I know exactly how you feel. I remember staying round friends' houses and playing Red Alert on Playstation link-up until 6 in the morning and, as you say, thoroughly wokring my way through FFVII and VIII, I had my special memory card with specific stages of the game I had accomplished so that I could go back to them.
Christ, even playing games when we were well young on our Amiga 600!
I really miss those times. As a married working man with responsibilities and other plans, gaming in the way I used to is a distant memory - I can't imagine ever being able to say to myself 'OK, I'm going to play this game for the next 6+ hours.'
I got in to SC2 and TL only in my adult life, a few years ago.
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Well, it's a fact that games typically aren't made for people with thousands of hours of expertise in every genre. As your skill, familiarity and understanding of games goes up your enjoyment goes down.
My advice is to widen your horizons away from the gaming blockbusters. Look at some indie games, non-traditional genres, etc. Heck you could even try your hand at making games.
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TLADT24920 Posts
It sounds like you don't enjoy playing most games anymore. Part of that is due to growing up and that there are a lot more responsibilities now than when you were younger. As a child, there wasn't much to worry about and with the free time you had, you could game for a long time and get into the game. Obviously that changed as you grew order. I feel the same thing as well. There are all these games that sound interesting or have a good story but every game I pick up, I feel like I'm forcing myself to play it. Diablo III which is a game I was anticipating had the same effect, just felt so shallow to keep pounding the numbers of the right mouse button and sadly, Diablo II had the same exact gameplay yet I was addicted to the game and would keep playing the game with different characters. Only Starcraft hasn't suffered from this and even then, I have my periods where I don't even want to touch the game even though I haven't played a decent amount of games in about 3 months time.
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On December 21 2012 16:45 Grobyc wrote:
Hi,
I'd play those video games like I developed them. I was intimate with everything: characters, storylines, equipment on my RPG characters, etc. I'd have Sabin's blitz codes memorized off the top of my head, where all the secret level finishes were in Super Mario. I'd have the layout of the entire city memorized in GTA3, etc. I can go on.
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Dang that brings me back. He was my favorite character because you could interact with his moves.
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If you want a game to be passionate about, play Planescape: Torment.
I played it this year, and it blew my mind. It was so good that I'm going to play it again, with different party members so I can learn more about the story.
It also gave me that feeling or looking forward to continuing it, after coming home from school, or after waking up. I don't care for most games. I only play a few multiplayer games, and almost no single player games, because most of them bore me. So that this game interested me as much as it did (and still does, even after I have beaten it) says something about it.
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I feel the same with video games no longer being able to attract my attention like they used to, for example i would beat pokemon over and over to see how fast i could get the win.
Different priorities take over life and we have to accept it, at least starcraft is good enough that even though I have quit watching or playing for like the past half year to year because of being busy with work and other commitments it has once again become part of my life now that I have time for it.
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I am so happy I don't have those problems as many people I know that have gotten to my age (21 here) have started not liking games and what not.
I still find myself enjoying them a lot and my passion definitely isn't going down. I always keep up to date and always have a blast.
Had a few games this year that I had an absolute blast in.
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I can relate to this. I grew up gaming with my older brother (1.5 years older), and we were competitive in everything we played. I do miss gaming with him. Its harder to enjoy games the same way as an adult... Thanks for the write-up grobyc
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Perhaps you just don't like the style of these new games?
There's a lot of gamers who have realized at some point that they like the old way they make games better and that the new games are awful.
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Wow I feel the same way.
I remember playing Pokemon Silver for a couple hundred hours when I was younger just to delete it and play it for another couple hundred hours... All to start with a different pokemon >.>
But I still enjoyed the hell out of that game - I knew nearly every pokemon's location, the optimal way to get through the elite four, repeated nostalgia at visiting the kanto region every single time. I think that if I spent all that time learning an instrument I'd be damn good at it.
Now when I game I barely pay attention to the story or chug in the ~20 hours here and there just to say I've beaten the game and move on to the next one that piques my interest.. They just don't have any long-lasting quality to them that I appreciate anymore. Puzzle games are often way too easy, RPG's are uninspired or are monotonous, shooters are fun with friends but aren't good in a "personal" way.
Theorycraft:
I think alot of it has to do with adolescence and being able to really immerse yourself in a gaming world at such a young age where as you get older you can't help but have some presence of mind to keep up with your real-life obligations. When I used to play LoZ:OoT, I would literally dream about the story and how epic it was while I was playing it, be at school and yearn to continue the adventure at 3:30, play that sucker, rinse and repeat.
I don't think I'll ever feel that again about any game ever. Having to search through the trash games that get shoveled out these days and grad school to think about near 24/7, anything not named Starcraft or LoL don't garner any real emotion from me. :/
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This is only a good thing as you have more time for serious and useful stuff.
I have the same thing, I do have a big liking for actual boardgames now because I still like games in general but need the face to face interaction.
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Haha I truly envy the people who aren't able to relate; I wasn't sure how much if at all this affect other people. I'd like to take the time to reply with more thoroughness to posts once I get home from work.
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I know exactly what youre talking about, games was my way to get away, my own universe where I was in control of everything, noone could take it away from me because it was my world to absorb, live in, and live through!
Although, the passion has come to fade nowadays, its only starcraft for me.
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eh I honestly lost my taste for single player games a while ago. I only recently started playing GTA4 and I have fallout3 I borrowed from my buddy. Multiplayer is just a lot more interesting, even if you're not crazy about being super competitive
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It just seems that you get older and most people don´t enjoy gaming as much when they get older, maybe you should do something completely different and don´t play, untill you really have hunger for the games again.
Otherwise, why is it bad to go earlier to bed and live an healthy life?
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tfw no passion
Seriously though, sorry to hear that. Lost a lot of passion myself, once real life responsibilities and concerns begin to stack up, any rational person will prioritize real world stuff over gaming. That's my experience.
The social experience does play a huge role, which I guess is why SC has retained some of that passion value for you.
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I too realised that my interest in many games dwindled as I aged. I too could no longer fully appreciate the detail of the artwork or the emotion a character portrays. The intimate feeling of working with a game character as if he were real and important has vanished.
That's all gone now. It distresses me too. Sometimes I wish to go back to being a 6 year old child and enjoy the world again with a new found curiosity, and ability to absorb knowledge with the same amount of amazement as before. I feel like "this is game good but... ah it is boring."
I am two decades old.
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Hey dude, i totally understand you. Most of the games i play in SP i get bored, i don't know why, i see the game awesome, storyline awesome, awesome environment and settings, cool graphics... but i still get bored. So basically i gave up on SP games a while ago. I would give some a try here and there but thats about it. Games i love now are dota 2 and it used to be sc2. I love the competition, depth, esport, community. Oh well, thats how it is.
What i still find awesome is reading books. And that comes very close to SP gaming (its not the same but still its close  ). And i don't read a lot. I read maybe 30 - 60 pages a day, i move slow through the epic fantasy book but i enjoy it as much as possible, i find it fun and maybe its a good replacement for SP games. You may try that
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I also felt like my imagination was fading away as I was growing up, I couldn't get lost in games anymore like I used to. But then I got into a university and discovered cannabis, since then my imagination has been returning and I find myself getting lost once again in the newer generation of Blizzard games like Starcraft II and Diablo III
Playing them once again now injects me with large quantities of nostalgia and Dae Ja Vou.
I feel like there are conservative pockets of society in the United States that still reject this notion of The Internet because its a form of culture that has only been commercially around since 1995.
Losing interest in video games does not mean that you are just growing up, I think that it just means the people you're around still have a sense of rejection to this kind of entertainment.
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Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.
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Yeh, It's simple like my previous post, don't make it complicated. Power over mind...
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Bisutopia19239 Posts
I became a video game programmer to continue this passion. But now my passion is just for programming. I pretty much evolved the way you feel. I'm still here just because of the community. Brood War held so much for me and I keep praying SC2 would fill that void. I wish more people were disappointed with the game so it would just get a reboot. But I also feel the community on TL take a giant shift. I'm older now so age definitely plays a part. I used ot be up till 3 every night and never be tired. Now I can barely stay awake till midnight. How did that all change? These thoughts get me depressed easily, but I'm fighting to hold on for sure.
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Same with my brothers and me, always gamed: Intellivision, NES, SNES, PC, arcade, N64, Xbox, xbox360. Good memories man, but most games now lack a good deal of substance. Couple that with how you've changed over the years, and it is really hard to capture that feeling again, for sure.
It is definitely a sad thing. Thinking about myself, I think the most recent time I had that feeling was when I got World of Warcraft in early 2005. I tried to recapture it with Age of Conan, but it totally isn't the same. I think the silver lining is that that feeling can be achieved again, for sure, but the chances for it truly are slim.
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Basically the same thing. Single player games are a bore now and only playing against other real people provides any entertainment value. MMO's which once sucked tons of my time up are now stale and pointless.
Just the last year I started to learn programming and it has filled the void that single player games have left. Every time I learn a new concept it's the equivalent of leveling up in an mmo, every time a new block of code works it's an epic boss defeated, and whenever I can say a program is finished it's a game beaten.
Like others have said, try to find something else that will be fun for you and then go back to games when you feel the urge to. Also like someone else mentioned above, reading books is a great way to keep your mind sharp and have a good time!
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really identify with the whole playing games thoroughly before, but now just running through them
I can pick up almost any of the NES/SNES/N64/PSX games that I grew up on, and know exactly what to do/where to find items/secret locations/etc. This even holds for games that I only did a single playthrough of. Curiously, I might not even be able to recall the main character's name in a game I just went through a month ago. It's more than likely that my ability to absorb information has deteriorated with time, but I think the change in approach to gaming, as you described, has had a much larger impact.
I too used to appreciate games completely. I'd play through every bit, talk to most npcs, explore every area, and try everything, pretty much. Now I just do three 8-hour sittings on a high framerate and only alter my setups as needed. I still enjoy it, but there's no immersion at all. Games all seem to follow a formula that I've already beaten to death.
qq. Well, at least there's always Dark Souls.
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On December 22 2012 03:43 Demolicious wrote:
Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.
I agree with this, I think that growing up means having more factors that you think about throughout the day (job, girlfriend, money and social status). Most of us could get away with not caring about all these things when we were younger. But now, with all these things going on in our minds, I think its pretty challenging to enjoy something like the ways we used to do (being totally focused on games because we didn't have a care in the world when we were younger).
Luckily you can always train your mind to get the same feeling again, like Demolicious said, meditation does help a lot. You don't have to be open to it for meditation to work. If you just do it, it will come naturally to continue doing it. It will increase your focus and make it easier to enjoy simpler things.
Another cool development as you get older is that you can go back to enjoying simpler things without much worries, even though it may not be gaming, but nature, family and sports.
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Sounds like you need to play Majora's Mask for the first time ever.
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Wow quite a lot of people feel the same way huh?
Man, I'm still waiting for a game that I'll be able to play with full passion. Currently i'm playing Starcraft: Brood War to feel a bit old school. I suck at it though LOL.
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I have had much of the same sensations. I am now 42 and have been a gamer since I was 13. I am very passionate about gaming, and have always been that way. Also a loner in that regard, and herein lies some differences, since my younger brother was never a factor, since he was 14 years younger and never a game, really.
I think you are feeling depressed, and quite honestly, I think that playing Starcraft isn't making you happy at all, but you fearing to let go of it, since it feels like the last bastion of a reminder of the past in correlation to what you have become, and you are clinging on to it with teeth and claws. Take a time out. You are not being passionate about it, because you are not letting yourself be that. Playing games and rushing them is taking out the whole experience. You know this, you just got focused on the end line; winning, rather than the process AND achieving the fruits of your labour, which is what you are really passionate about. You are chasing a rainbow, you do not even believe in exists, or think will pop up if you keep running. Passion finds you and grabs you, not the other way around, but you got to let go.
The differences between being a child and an playful adult is the difficulty in letting go of the responsibilities, every once in a while and be that kid. Another is life makes us more cynical with time and experience in comparison to a child. Gaming is also escaping - escaping from all the cares that we adults tend to care about(many of which we shouldn't). And escaping to a place which is your realm. A realm of enjoyment. If you are a Starcraft pro player you will also clock in results, if you do something else, and once you return you'd feel rejuvenated and happy. Let yourself get immersed - like a single player game is only able to achieve... and start having fun, like you used to, and stop making comparisons to the past - this is about finding what makes you happy - now. It may differ a bit what made you passionate in the past, but passionate people will always be that, even if they lost the path, or the path got crooked.
Maybe you are just tired of gaming...
The bane of being passionate is becoming a cynic. So never become that.
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I'm somewhat surprised there are so many people that generally feel the same way. It makes me feel... not alone in that sense. It's not something I would have ever predicted happening as a kid. When I really think about it, it's so surreal.
On December 22 2012 00:42 NotoriousBig wrote:
It just seems that you get older and most people don´t enjoy gaming as much when they get older, maybe you should do something completely different and don´t play, untill you really have hunger for the games again.
Otherwise, why is it bad to go earlier to bed and live an healthy life?
I've recently been trying to force myself to get into some other activities I think I would enjoy, but when it comes down to it I find I have a severe lack of motivation.
As for the second part of your post, I didn't quite mean I would want to stay up and continue playing all the time. In fact, when I mentioned that I meant I would subconsciously even look forward to and accept it sometimes. While this sounds not so bad, I really thrive on the thrill that I get from wanting to just in my room and game, even though that's not something I do often. I just don't get the same thrill. It's like "oh? 10pm? okay, bedtime". It doesn't even feel like I'm being pulled away from anything important.
On December 21 2012 21:39 IamaGrapeMan wrote:
Perhaps you just don't like the style of these new games?
There's a lot of gamers who have realized at some point that they like the old way they make games better and that the new games are awful.
I thought that at first, but even re-playing some old games I used to appreciate I haven't been able to engage myself the same way I used to.
On December 21 2012 18:32 vOdToasT wrote:
If you want a game to be passionate about, play Planescape: Torment.
I played it this year, and it blew my mind. It was so good that I'm going to play it again, with different party members so I can learn more about the story.
It also gave me that feeling or looking forward to continuing it, after coming home from school, or after waking up. I don't care for most games. I only play a few multiplayer games, and almost no single player games, because most of them bore me. So that this game interested me as much as it did (and still does, even after I have beaten it) says something about it.
I'll take that recommendation and give it a chance. Hopefully I see it the way you do
On December 22 2012 01:51 thOr6136 wrote:Hey dude, i totally understand you. Most of the games i play in SP i get bored, i don't know why, i see the game awesome, storyline awesome, awesome environment and settings, cool graphics... but i still get bored. So basically i gave up on SP games a while ago. I would give some a try here and there but thats about it. Games i love now are dota 2 and it used to be sc2. I love the competition, depth, esport, community. Oh well, thats how it is. What i still find awesome is reading books. And that comes very close to SP gaming (its not the same but still its close ). And i don't read a lot. I read maybe 30 - 60 pages a day, i move slow through the epic fantasy book but i enjoy it as much as possible, i find it fun and maybe its a good replacement for SP games. You may try that
That sounds like something I'd be willing to try. I don't really know where or what to start with though. I think I would most enjoy fiction/adventure/mystery/action. I suppose that's something I would need to play around with.
On December 22 2012 02:52 Hug-A-Hydralisk wrote:I also felt like my imagination was fading away as I was growing up, I couldn't get lost in games anymore like I used to. But then I got into a university and discovered cannabis, since then my imagination has been returning and I find myself getting lost once again in the newer generation of Blizzard games like Starcraft II and Diablo III Playing them once again now injects me with large quantities of nostalgia and Dae Ja Vou. I feel like there are conservative pockets of society in the United States that still reject this notion of The Internet because its a form of culture that has only been commercially around since 1995. Losing interest in video games does not mean that you are just growing up, I think that it just means the people you're around still have a sense of rejection to this kind of entertainment.
To add to this, I actually feel a rush like that when I game while stoned as well. I don't particularly care for the act of smoking though; I've kind of been contemplating getting a vapourizer.
On December 22 2012 03:43 Demolicious wrote:
Yo, I think its a focus thing... Meditation is the answer. With this you can focus on the game and nothing else. I think that people thing about too many other things while they are playing. By using meditation and power over the mind, you can focus on the game as a pure entity.
Heheh it never even crossed my mind to try something like this. Do you have any specific techniques or information to help a noob try it out?
On December 22 2012 08:27 ninazerg wrote:
Sounds like you need to play Majora's Mask for the first time ever.
I've already played through Majora's Mask a good half dozen times at least 
On December 22 2012 10:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
I have had much of the same sensations. I am now 42 and have been a gamer since I was 13. I am very passionate about gaming, and have always been that way. Also a loner in that regard, and herein lies some differences, since my younger brother was never a factor, since he was 14 years younger and never a game, really.
I think you are feeling depressed, and quite honestly, I think that playing Starcraft isn't making you happy at all, but you fearing to let go of it, since it feels like the last bastion of a reminder of the past in correlation to what you have become, and you are clinging on to it with teeth and claws. Take a time out. You are not being passionate about it, because you are not letting yourself be that. Playing games and rushing them is taking out the whole experience. You know this, you just got focused on the end line; winning, rather than the process AND achieving the fruits of your labour, which is what you are really passionate about. You are chasing a rainbow, you do not even believe in exists, or think will pop up if you keep running. Passion finds you and grabs you, not the other way around, but you got to let go.
The differences between being a child and an playful adult is the difficulty in letting go of the responsibilities, every once in a while and be that kid. Another is life makes us more cynical with time and experience in comparison to a child. Gaming is also escaping - escaping from all the cares that we adults tend to care about(many of which we shouldn't). And escaping to a place which is your realm. A realm of enjoyment. If you are a Starcraft pro player you will also clock in results, if you do something else, and once you return you'd feel rejuvenated and happy. Let yourself get immersed - like a single player game is only able to achieve... and start having fun, like you used to, and stop making comparisons to the past - this is about finding what makes you happy - now. It may differ a bit what made you passionate in the past, but passionate people will always be that, even if they lost the path, or the path got crooked.
Maybe you are just tired of gaming...
The bane of being passionate is becoming a cynic. So never become that.
You're right in that regard. It really isn't about being amazed and astounded by StarCraft as a game, it's the community and social aspect of it more than anything that I feel attached to. I truly do feel happy being a part of it too. I wouldn't even be surprised if I were just on TL posting in the forums and not actually playing the game in the future.
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And you will always be part of it, as long as you so desire. By that I mean your true desire, and not chasing a fragment of past enjoyment, that no longer exists from the "same" experience. Just like when it comes to gaming - whatever the game genre it is. No decision like this is unchangeable. Just like experiences. Both when leaving and when returning.
Thanks for your blog btw.
That sounds like something I'd be willing to try. I don't really know where or what to start with though. I think I would most enjoy fiction/adventure/mystery/action. I suppose that's something I would need to play around with. Reading a book is a good idea. May I recommend The Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov or maybe pick up some book on which a movie you really like is based upon. It's a place to start if nothing else, and it is the start that is the toughest part.
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I get where all of you are coming from. Although I can't smoke anymore these days due to health issues, weed always brought me back to that childlike wonder (not only in games aswell). Just a thought.
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Sure thing, I'll start a notepad file with book titles/authors to look in to. One that I've been consider as of late is the original novel that Metro 2033 was based off it (as per it's wiki). I haven't actually played the game through yet, but I got it for free recently and I've heard great things about both the book and game.
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Same here. I used to play RPGs on the SNES for hours and hours, and in my head when I was away from the console. Then there were online games like UO and Starcraft that I would play with a friend any time we could during the week, and on weekends nearly all day and night. These days I just can't get into any games (a little bit of Dungeon Crawl now and then). It's still sort of fun to watch other people play in streams, but my passion for it is dead. Sometimes I wish I'd spent all that limitless energy I used to have on something that would give me more return later... like artists, crafters, athletes etc. Sometimes I feel sad looking at the pale, hunched over kids that play games all day, thinking that in a few decades they might regret it as well, and wonder where all the time and the "passion" went. Oh well, life is funny.
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I think this is something very close to being male. This is exactly why you see so many males in their 30 and 40's furiously collecting Atari, Amiga en Sega stuff from their childhood. They want to relive that feeling they had as a kid.
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Books man, off the beaten path here are a few of my favorites:
Startide Rising
Starship Troopers
A Princess of Mars
Gord the Rogue
3 Hearts and 3 Lions
Neuromancer
Snow Crash
There are so many more man but that's a killer list right there!
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