So some guy printed an AR-15 assault rifle with a 3D printer.The video of him shooting it is somewhere on google video.This is great news for lovers of freedom everywhere! What would be the point in bringing in assault weapon bans if people can just print these things in their living room? Great technology IMO , really impressed with the possibilities of these things.
Get ready. It’s now possible to print weapons at home. An amateur gunsmith, operating under the handle of “HaveBlue” (incidentally, “Have Blue” is the codename that was used for the prototype stealth fighter that became the Lockheed F-117), announced recently in online forums that he had successfully printed a serviceable .22 caliber pistol. Despite predictions of disaster, the pistol worked. It successfully fired 200 rounds in testing.
HaveBlue then decided to push the limits of what was possible and print an AR-15 rifle. To do this, he downloaded plans for an AR-15 in the Solidworks file format from a site called CNCGunsmith.com. After some small modifications to the design, he fed about $30 of ABS plastic feedstock into his late-model Stratasys printer. The result was a functional AR-15 rifle. Early testing shows that it works, although it still has some minor feed and extraction problems to be worked out. . .
On July 29 2012 17:41 zalz wrote: This seems fake.
Almost obviously so.
why? have you seen the videos showing what 3d printers can do?
Yes, that is why I am saying that it is fake.
They can barely print a decent drinking cup, and now it is printing an automatic rifle?
We all understand that a gun, pedantic as it has become due to games and movies, is in fact a very advanced piece of technology.
If it is printed entirely out of plastic, how could it possible deal with the recoil? How could it possibly print all the miniature parts of varying metals that compose these rifles.
I know technology is advancing, I know 3D printing will one day be able to do this, but that day hasn't arrived yet.
Oh snap...3D printers really could be the next massive advance in tech on the level of smartphones and whatnot :O
On July 29 2012 16:48 Kojak21 wrote: What does Obama have to do with banning a printer?
Probably has to do with gun control, i.e. anybody with a 3D printer could download plans and print a gun etc.
Also with regard to some of the comments. A 3D printer is, for now, still incapable of printing an entire gun, since it would have to articulate moving parts, not to mention plastic likely isn't strong enough to be used alone in the construction of a gun.
What actually happened was that he printed the lower receiver (component of the gun) and assembled the gun. This, however, counts as the firearm according to the American Gun Control Act.
On July 29 2012 17:41 zalz wrote: This seems fake.
Almost obviously so.
why? have you seen the videos showing what 3d printers can do?
Yes, that is why I am saying that it is fake.
They can barely print a decent drinking cup, and now it is printing an automatic rifle?
We all understand that a gun, pedantic as it has become due to games and movies, is in fact a very advanced piece of technology.
If it is printed entirely out of plastic, how could it possible deal with the recoil? How could it possibly print all the miniature parts of varying metals that compose these rifles.
I know technology is advancing, I know 3D printing will one day be able to do this, but that day hasn't arrived yet.
looking at this, i feel like its possible to make each individual small part, but it would take days to do it. but it would not be able to make anything significantly big. each tiny part would have to be constructed and made.
I'm going to go ahead and say that in America it would be much easier to just acquire a real gun than to build one of questionable quality with a 3D printer. No nation-bashing intended.
They can barely print a decent drinking cup, and now it is printing an automatic rifle?
We all understand that a gun, pedantic as it has become due to games and movies, is in fact a very advanced piece of technology.
If it is printed entirely out of plastic, how could it possible deal with the recoil? How could it possibly print all the miniature parts of varying metals that compose these rifles.
I know technology is advancing, I know 3D printing will one day be able to do this, but that day hasn't arrived yet.
Honestly I don't think he was being malicious towards Obama overall. Sounds more like a misinformed title whose purpose is more to draw views and what not
But yeah...could really take piracy to new levels depending on what kind of materials it may be able to work with.
I read somewhere that it only makes plastic parts, so you can build PARTS of a gun, but not a whole gun. Also 3d printers can only print in additive processes, which appears to have some effect on building weapons, but I have no knowledge of how guns work and the link I read this off seems to be down right now (http://www.3dprinter.net/gunsmith-makes-rifle-with-3d-printer).
This has got to be a troll thread. There's no way that a 3d printer is the way of the future. With the number of people failing algebra in America, I'm guessing there's even a far larger percentage who fail physics and chemistry.
Eventually, you'll be able to download a file and print complex devices in your own home. And that will have plenty of ramifications. But you sure as hell can't do so yet.
On July 29 2012 22:20 Nazza wrote: You'd have to steal a 3D printer first . I heard they are a tad pricey.
Maybe 5 years ago but not these days. $2000 ain't all that much , in the long run it would probably save you money. Besides most people here are too short sighted , what happens when they start creating stronger plastics to use with these things? Theres videos on youtube of 3d printers that use stainless steel dust to make metal objects.
It's the future , get used to it left wingers.Government control over guns will be null and void when you've got 3D printers popping out guns left right and centre.
All the articles have so far been misleading, as you can only print out the guns receiver. Somebody who wanted a working gun would still have to acquire the other parts.
On July 29 2012 22:20 Nazza wrote: You'd have to steal a 3D printer first . I heard they are a tad pricey.
Maybe 5 years ago but not these days. $2000 ain't all that much , in the long run it would probably save you money. Besides most people here are too short sighted , what happens when they start creating stronger plastics to use with these things? Theres videos on youtube of 3d printers that use stainless steel dust to make metal objects.
It's the future , get used to it left wingers.Government control over guns will be null and void when you've got 3D printers popping out guns left right and centre.
I gave this thread a chance after seeing the title but that's just troll bait from the creator. There isn't one comment that's remotely leftist in this thread, adding a political slant to a technology that should be used for enriching the educational and scientific process is just ridiculous.
On July 29 2012 22:20 Nazza wrote: You'd have to steal a 3D printer first . I heard they are a tad pricey.
Maybe 5 years ago but not these days. $2000 ain't all that much , in the long run it would probably save you money. Besides most people here are too short sighted , what happens when they start creating stronger plastics to use with these things? Theres videos on youtube of 3d printers that use stainless steel dust to make metal objects.
It's the future , get used to it left wingers.Government control over guns will be null and void when you've got 3D printers popping out guns left right and centre.
I gave this thread a chance after seeing the title but that's just troll bait from the creator. There isn't one comment that's remotely leftist in this thread, adding a political slant to a technology that should be used for enriching the educational and scientific process is just ridiculous.
You should take a look at the OP's previous blogs. He has a history of creating troll bait blogs..
3d plastic printers aren't the only possible alternative source of guns; in a place where gun manufacture is banned but demand is high, machine shops could knock together cheap, unsafe metal firearms pretty easily. In fact, in the USA, this is probably what would happen if there was a sudden ban on the production and distribution of firearms for civilian use.
Lol so confused by this topic. I am unsure of the abilities of 3-d printers, but I find it hard to believe that a printer could make something THAT technical, something that requires hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment to mass produce.
On July 29 2012 17:41 zalz wrote: This seems fake.
Almost obviously so.
How about the doctors who can print human skeletons, and the engineers who print micro structures?
3-D printers are the future. No joke.
Just.. No.
If you knew anything about material requirements and processing technologies you would know how wrong you are.
I definitely have read in multiple places about 3-D printers that can do this.
Edit: On second thought it might have actually been that they are working on being able to do this, but I read that a while ago so I'll stand by the fact that they can do it haha
If possession of assault rilfles are banned, then possession of 3-d printed assault rilfes are banned as well. Btw, I met a gun control nut the other day (being temporarily in Texas and all). He says the world will crumble and the fed will take over the nation if people lost their "right" to possess firearms. Oh, and when I disagreed with him he said I'm not American but "it's alright cuz you're asian and you're not from around here." He says I don't reeeaaally understand the importance of guns in our great nation.
Why are people so fucking stupid? At first I rage, then I remember that stupidity is actually a positive trait for reproduction in today's world. In the past you'd get eaten or die of hunger/starvation or fall into a hole or some shit. But today, we're all safe and sound. For every responsible and intelligent couple that procreates, 10 morons are born due to drunken nights, lack of responsibility, or through a lot of unfit parents wanting loads of kids because it will be "oh so much fun!" But it's not really their fault, it's the parents who fail to rear their children properly. So whenever I feel like my mind is going to implode, I remember this fact to zen it up and feel "serenity now." Stupid people are stupid from no fault of their own. Do you hate a monkey for shitting in his hand and throwing feces in your face? No, a monkey just does monkey things. /rant
If this is true and HaveBlue and his 7 posts are not just elaborate trolls, this takes a lot more than just a 3d printer and plans to throw together. 3D printers only do plastic, so he only uses it for the external parts, not the active parts that actually do the shooting. The idea that you can make the internals out of plastic is ridiculous. Especially since the plastic from those printers isn't the most durable.
Not looking forward to people actually trying this and having cheap plastic AR15's blowing up in their face.
I call BS.
Note: It may be believable if there are a bunch pieces inside that are made of metal and not printed, in which case it's just a custom built AR-15 with a cheap plastic casing. I wouldn't trust it - but it's still fairly impressive if true.
That said, the pictures suck and there's no video, so...
-The guy printed a receiver. Not an entire AR-15. If you think you can make an entire AR-15 out of $30 of plastic I have a bridge to sell you. Typical national review reporting. -What the fuck does this have to do with Obama? He hasn't done anything to affect accessibility to firearms. Unless you count being in office so the NRA and firearm companies can fearmonger and cause the price of ammo to shoot through the roof as people start hoarding cause the "leftists gon' take my guns".
On July 29 2012 23:43 micronesia wrote: 3d plastic printers aren't the only possible alternative source of guns; in a place where gun manufacture is banned but demand is high, machine shops could knock together cheap, unsafe metal firearms pretty easily. In fact, in the USA, this is probably what would happen if there was a sudden ban on the production and distribution of firearms for civilian use.
illicit gun production sources already exist in horrifying conditions with no electricity or production lines, people in the rural areas of pakistan for example have been making illicit guns in caves with out any modern machinery with their bare hands by the thousands every day. It's just a matter of lack of government control and actual mentality of the population in regards to what it means to own a gun. Technology really isn't the main issue at all.
On August 02 2012 11:30 TOloseGT wrote: Programmers will probably put limits on what 3D printers can build, like Photoshop with money.
unhackable limits?
Well, nothing's unhackable. Photoshopping money is fairly easy to bypass, but not everyone is computer savvy. Would your average gangbanger be able to print out a gun?
On August 02 2012 11:30 TOloseGT wrote: Programmers will probably put limits on what 3D printers can build, like Photoshop with money.
unhackable limits?
Well, nothing's unhackable. Photoshopping money is fairly easy to bypass, but not everyone is computer savvy. Would your average gangbanger be able to print out a gun?
Better question. Would your average gang banger know geometry? lols. I'm sure they could possibly print out a gun, since the cartel has submarines. It's just that it would be done by some one higher up. The materials used to make the gun would be a completely different story though. I mean it's one thing to make a gun out of a high quality metal, and it's another thing to make a gun out of plastic.
You can find torrents for blue prints to make UZI's, if you know how to do basic welding. From my experience, it costs about $100 to make one, and you can resell them for about $300-500 if it's semi auto, and 5k+ if it's fully auto. If it's fully auto, know that it's illegal to own, so it's a lot easier to make the person the parts for converting it to be fully automatic.
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