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Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
June 22 2012 01:28 GMT
#41
On June 22 2012 04:28 Matoo- wrote:
Been to Denny's yesterday and ordered some food to go. + Show Spoiler +
The waiter gave me the receipt and a pen, obviously expecting me to tip. I didn't. After that he stopped talking to me and never uttered another word until I left. He was obviously mad.
So are you really supposed to tip even if you order takeout food? That seems pretty ridiculous to me since the waiter doesn't have to take care or the table or anything - he even asked me to stand up and order directly at the front desk.
For reference I live in the Bay Area
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You were 100% in the right. No worries.

On June 22 2012 06:35 dRaW wrote:
LMAO, better yet; should you tip the chick who gives you drinks @ a club? fuck nahh that's her job

This can be much different though. A lot of times you tip at a bar or club to get preferential service, especially when it's super busy. But if you're good looking they might come your way first anyway
Real action, my dream.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 02:12:55
June 22 2012 02:12 GMT
#42
i don't tip unless they've done a good job. Generally asking if I'm having a good time isn't worth that much money, and its really rude when I'm talking to someone to just interrupt me. rofl.

People have much harder jobs than they do, and a lot of those workers don't ask for tips (I'd tip roomservice, they must clean up so many fkin rooms ranging from disgusting to clean every day over and over again so I can see how that could be a huge physical drain. I'd be nice about it to and make sure my room isn't a mess as well so all they do is change sheets and w/e)

/New concept: tipping if its fair to tip, not if its expected of you
hihihi
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 03:41:04
June 22 2012 03:38 GMT
#43
Thanks everyone for the answers!

On a personal level I don't like the concept of tipping very much either, but as a frenchman in the USA, it'd be quite inappropriate for me to make a fuss about that. When in Rome do as the Romans do, etc. I'll leave the task of changing their country to the americans if some of them feel up to it. But last time I checked tipping was a spreading habit, not a receding one. Even in France I feel like people tip much more often today than they used to 15 years ago.

Anyway in this particular case of takeout food it looks like it was okay not to tip, unless I got some exceptional service, which didn't happen. Well, I wasn't going to Denny's much already, looks like it's going to be even less now.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
June 22 2012 03:44 GMT
#44
In Canada many of the coffee shops have a tip option... for pouring a drip coffee out of a large pot into a cup, and handing it to the customer!

I think tipping should be for exceptional service, not for the "privilege" of eating or drinking somewhere.

That said, I always tip when I pick up food at my favourite Chinese food place because they always add extra meat and give me the freshest food which makes it exceptional service to me.
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 22 2012 03:44 GMT
#45
On June 22 2012 12:38 Matoo- wrote:
Thanks everyone for the answers!

On a personal level I don't like the concept of tipping very much either, but as a frenchman in the USA, it'd be quite inappropriate for me to make a fuss about that. When in Rome do as the Romans do, etc. I'll leave the task of changing their country to the americans if some of them feel up to it. But last time I checked tipping was a spreading habit, not a receding one. Even in France I feel like people tip much more often today than they used to 15 years ago.

Anyway in this particular case of takeout food it looks like it was okay not to tip, unless I got some exceptional service, which didn't happen. Well, I wasn't going to Denny's much already, looks like it's going to be even less now.

when i went to france, i read in a book that tips are included in the price. then, i had people asking me for a tip on top of that. whats up with that?
ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
June 22 2012 03:50 GMT
#46
why does everyone always give in to culture? if someone, ANYONE, does a job so well that you think requires a tip then by all means go for it. if they dont then dont. the only profession i always tip is a waiter because they make shit (sry daph but youre just wrong, coming from someone who has worked a tipping job before IN the USA) and they handle my food.

but shit just thinking back, ive tipped bellhops, tech guys, tow truck drivers, mailman, parking attendants, and once the maid at a hotel because for whatever reason she just went way above and beyond what im used to. i have no idea if those jobs get tipped on a regular basis or not, i just felt it appropriate.

and to the point, take out food absolutely not, unless i am a regular and they still go above and beyond.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 22 2012 03:54 GMT
#47
On June 22 2012 12:50 ParkwayDrive wrote:
why does everyone always give in to culture? if someone, ANYONE, does a job so well that you think requires a tip then by all means go for it. if they dont then dont. the only profession i always tip is a waiter because they make shit (sry daph but youre just wrong, coming from someone who has worked a tipping job before IN the USA) and they handle my food.

but shit just thinking back, ive tipped bellhops, tech guys, tow truck drivers, mailman, parking attendants, and once the maid at a hotel because for whatever reason she just went way above and beyond what im used to. i have no idea if those jobs get tipped on a regular basis or not, i just felt it appropriate.

and to the point, take out food absolutely not, unless i am a regular and they still go above and beyond.

i never said they make good money; i said they make at least minimum wage. not sure why thats so hard for people to comprehend.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
June 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#48
On June 22 2012 12:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 12:38 Matoo- wrote:
Thanks everyone for the answers!

On a personal level I don't like the concept of tipping very much either, but as a frenchman in the USA, it'd be quite inappropriate for me to make a fuss about that. When in Rome do as the Romans do, etc. I'll leave the task of changing their country to the americans if some of them feel up to it. But last time I checked tipping was a spreading habit, not a receding one. Even in France I feel like people tip much more often today than they used to 15 years ago.

Anyway in this particular case of takeout food it looks like it was okay not to tip, unless I got some exceptional service, which didn't happen. Well, I wasn't going to Denny's much already, looks like it's going to be even less now.

when i went to france, i read in a book that tips are included in the price. then, i had people asking me for a tip on top of that. whats up with that?


tourist bonus
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 04:13:05
June 22 2012 04:12 GMT
#49
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 04:16:45
June 22 2012 04:13 GMT
#50
On June 22 2012 12:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 12:38 Matoo- wrote:
Thanks everyone for the answers!

On a personal level I don't like the concept of tipping very much either, but as a frenchman in the USA, it'd be quite inappropriate for me to make a fuss about that. When in Rome do as the Romans do, etc. I'll leave the task of changing their country to the americans if some of them feel up to it. But last time I checked tipping was a spreading habit, not a receding one. Even in France I feel like people tip much more often today than they used to 15 years ago.

Anyway in this particular case of takeout food it looks like it was okay not to tip, unless I got some exceptional service, which didn't happen. Well, I wasn't going to Denny's much already, looks like it's going to be even less now.

when i went to france, i read in a book that tips are included in the price. then, i had people asking me for a tip on top of that. whats up with that?

That's because you are a foreigner (Was in Paris i guess ?). They would never ask for a tip if you were French lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 04:18:57
June 22 2012 04:18 GMT
#51
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.


Get a better job or deal with it

Yes, it sounds harsh, but that's life.

It's not the tourist's fault that your country's legistlation does not sufficiently protect the service industry.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 22 2012 04:23 GMT
#52
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.

are they not giving you a mileage reimbursement?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 22 2012 04:24 GMT
#53
On June 22 2012 13:13 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 12:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 22 2012 12:38 Matoo- wrote:
Thanks everyone for the answers!

On a personal level I don't like the concept of tipping very much either, but as a frenchman in the USA, it'd be quite inappropriate for me to make a fuss about that. When in Rome do as the Romans do, etc. I'll leave the task of changing their country to the americans if some of them feel up to it. But last time I checked tipping was a spreading habit, not a receding one. Even in France I feel like people tip much more often today than they used to 15 years ago.

Anyway in this particular case of takeout food it looks like it was okay not to tip, unless I got some exceptional service, which didn't happen. Well, I wasn't going to Denny's much already, looks like it's going to be even less now.

when i went to france, i read in a book that tips are included in the price. then, i had people asking me for a tip on top of that. whats up with that?

That's because you are a foreigner (Was in Paris i guess ?). They would never ask for a tip if you were French lol.

it was paris (cafe overlooking notre dame). i didn't have my guidebook with me so i wasn't sure if i was supposed to tip or not. when i got back to the hotel i was pissed.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 04:32:55
June 22 2012 04:32 GMT
#54
Everything is overpriced in Paris but some people still want to scam the tourists on top of that =/
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
June 22 2012 04:34 GMT
#55
On June 22 2012 13:18 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.


Get a better job or deal with it

Yes, it sounds harsh, but that's life.

It's not the tourist's fault that your country's legistlation does not sufficiently protect the service industry.
Sigh that's like me saying "don't come to our country if you don't want to follow the customs".

Where else can I find a job that pays as well as this? Most nights I will make over $20 per hour. So please, tell me where I can fid a job that will pay bills, rent and schooling? There's a reason why I have to work as a delivery driver. It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else, and in this economy I can't exactly find anything.

So tell me where can I find this better job? You're in a country with rules, I suggest following them
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 22 2012 04:35 GMT
#56
On June 22 2012 13:34 ranshaked wrote:
So tell me where can I find this better job? You're in a country with rules, I suggest following them

Custom =/= rule =/= law
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
June 22 2012 04:36 GMT
#57
On June 22 2012 13:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.

are they not giving you a mileage reimbursement?
Typically it's $2.00 per delivery as a reimbursement. I make decent money! I'm complaining about foreigners not following customs. I purposefully take longer on orders that I know don't tip because those people also tend to treat me with disrespect. To me, not tipping when you know you should shows me the type of person you are.

You're paying for a service (delivery) and I'm providing that service. Why should a restaurant pay for this when you're the one gaining the service?
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 05:32:05
June 22 2012 05:31 GMT
#58
On June 22 2012 13:34 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 13:18 hkf wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.


Get a better job or deal with it

Yes, it sounds harsh, but that's life.

It's not the tourist's fault that your country's legistlation does not sufficiently protect the service industry.
Sigh that's like me saying "don't come to our country if you don't want to follow the customs".

Where else can I find a job that pays as well as this? Most nights I will make over $20 per hour. So please, tell me where I can fid a job that will pay bills, rent and schooling? There's a reason why I have to work as a delivery driver. It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else, and in this economy I can't exactly find anything.

So tell me where can I find this better job? You're in a country with rules, I suggest following them


If I choose to visit a country, I will follow their laws. But not their customs.

For example, I will be visiting Dubai this December. I will (most likely) not have a hookup there because getting caught = getting lashes. However I won't not eat pork because pork is delicious and is also not punishible in the sense of the law.

Also I want to highlight

It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else


And supposedly that's someone else's problem ... how?
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
June 22 2012 05:55 GMT
#59
On June 22 2012 14:31 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 13:34 ranshaked wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:18 hkf wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.


Get a better job or deal with it

Yes, it sounds harsh, but that's life.

It's not the tourist's fault that your country's legistlation does not sufficiently protect the service industry.
Sigh that's like me saying "don't come to our country if you don't want to follow the customs".

Where else can I find a job that pays as well as this? Most nights I will make over $20 per hour. So please, tell me where I can fid a job that will pay bills, rent and schooling? There's a reason why I have to work as a delivery driver. It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else, and in this economy I can't exactly find anything.

So tell me where can I find this better job? You're in a country with rules, I suggest following them


If I choose to visit a country, I will follow their laws. But not their customs.

For example, I will be visiting Dubai this December. I will (most likely) not have a hookup there because getting caught = getting lashes. However I won't not eat pork because pork is delicious and is also not punishible in the sense of the law.

Also I want to highlight

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It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else


And supposedly that's someone else's problem ... how?
As a full time college student that pays for his college and bills because of my tipped job and otherwise could not, please tell me who's fault that is? I'm not qualified to do anything else because I don't have a college degree yet. What other type of job can a college student do that would allow him/her to pay for college, rent, bills, car payment etc? It costs me on average $1500 a months to live. If I worked at a non tipped job I would make below $10 an hour, which would not cut it with school. By not qualified, I mean I don't have the qualifications. How does one obtain those? By going to school. Where else do you expect a college student to work and make it work? You're provided a service. I have to ask, would you rather pay $15 for A meal instead of ten if you didn't have to tip? We both know that restaurants would need to increase their pay to workers which would dramatically increase food prices. Would you rather that money go directly to the hard workers or to the business? If it goes to a business, it will never be passed down to the employer.
hkf
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June 22 2012 05:56 GMT
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On June 22 2012 14:55 ranshaked wrote:
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On June 22 2012 14:31 hkf wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:34 ranshaked wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:18 hkf wrote:
On June 22 2012 13:12 ranshaked wrote:
Okay. Let me break this down to foreigners (outside of the USA). I've worked in the delivery business for a Chinese restaurant for over 5 years. Tipping a driver and a server evens out the work that is being done. In my state of Florida the minimum wage is $7.67 an hour, but minimum wage is $3.02 for a tipped job and minimum cash (take home) is $4.65. This means, that the minimum amount a tipped service industry employee can take home per hour is $4.65. That is not enough to live off, let alone thrive. Often times the people that deliver your food or serve you are one of the following: 1) College/high school students 2) Dropouts from said schools 3) People without a job that are working to make ends meet until they find a career or well paying job

With that said, please tip your drivers/servers. I often times deliver to foreigners that cannot understand this concept (I live in the disney world area with a lot of tourists). For instance, tonight I made $42 dollars in tips, and I receive $5.00 per hour. I worked 5 hours which means I made $25.00 + $42.00=$67.00. It comes out to a little more than $10.00 an hour, which appears to be great, but in that time I also spent over $10 dollars in gas. Yes, I still make $57.00, but of course as anyone knows, the service industry is not easy.

The reason why I complain is this: When anyone else goes to another country they typically follows the customs of that country, but unfortunately MOST foreigners do not follow tipping procedures. I can't name how many times I've delivered to foreigners hundreds of dollars worth of food and ended up with a no-tip. This hurts me not only financially, but it fucks my mind up because those people do not respect our customs. Please, I beg you, if you're in the USA tip.

EDIT: Some days our servers will bring home less than minimum wage because it was either slow, or the customers did not tip. It's fucked up that people bust their asses for shitty people to not tip.


Get a better job or deal with it

Yes, it sounds harsh, but that's life.

It's not the tourist's fault that your country's legistlation does not sufficiently protect the service industry.
Sigh that's like me saying "don't come to our country if you don't want to follow the customs".

Where else can I find a job that pays as well as this? Most nights I will make over $20 per hour. So please, tell me where I can fid a job that will pay bills, rent and schooling? There's a reason why I have to work as a delivery driver. It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else, and in this economy I can't exactly find anything.

So tell me where can I find this better job? You're in a country with rules, I suggest following them


If I choose to visit a country, I will follow their laws. But not their customs.

For example, I will be visiting Dubai this December. I will (most likely) not have a hookup there because getting caught = getting lashes. However I won't not eat pork because pork is delicious and is also not punishible in the sense of the law.

Also I want to highlight

It's because I'm not qualified to do anything else


And supposedly that's someone else's problem ... how?
As a full time college student that pays for his college and bills because of my tipped job and otherwise could not, please tell me who's fault that is? I'm not qualified to do anything else because I don't have a college degree yet. What other type of job can a college student do that would allow him/her to pay for college, rent, bills, car payment etc? It costs me on average $1500 a months to live. If I worked at a non tipped job I would make below $10 an hour, which would not cut it with school. By not qualified, I mean I don't have the qualifications. How does one obtain those? By going to school. Where else do you expect a college student to work and make it work? You're provided a service. I have to ask, would you rather pay $15 for A meal instead of ten if you didn't have to tip? We both know that restaurants would need to increase their pay to workers which would dramatically increase food prices. Would you rather that money go directly to the hard workers or to the business? If it goes to a business, it will never be passed down to the employer.


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