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Driver licence is insanely hard in my country.
I paid around 1500-2000 € at the moment, had the first test which is theory 6 month ago (bullshit questions and whatnot). Then I just passed my practical test yesterday, and, according to the woman who taught me how to drive, I failed to had it (didn't had the official response yet, tomorrow maybe).
Well I drove quite nicely, but at a moment, a guy came to me and I had to drove backward in the freaking small alley of Paris, almost hit another car... Well, now I have to wait at least 3 month to pass the test again, will cost me 200 - 250 € at least...
I was asking myself, did any other TLers passed it too ? How did it go, did anyone failed ? And how is it in your country, harder ? Easier ?
EDIT: I got my licence. I'm taking the car to australia, don't tell me I can't.
 
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Well, I have experience from two countries. I got my license in the US when I was sixteen, which was a breeze. Had to take some obligatory classes before I was allowed to test. Then I tested and passed both the theory part and the driving part on my first time (even though I messed up on the driving a bit). Then again, that was in Minnesota, I am guessing other states might be easier/more difficult.
Then I moved to Sweden and had to retake my drivers license from the start (so retarded btw) after a year of driving there. Once again, had to take a few obligatory classes and bullcrap, which was just a stupid cost, didn't learn anything. Then I promptly failed both the theory part and the driving part on the first time. Then passed them both on the second try.
All in all, I was a much better driver when I took the test in Sweden yet it cost way more and I failed the tests on the first try. Go figure.
Edit: Grammar
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I just spent 3 weeks driving in your country. It doesn't compute that it's tough to get a license there. No one seems to have a sweet fucking clue how to comport themselves on the road.
The test in Canada is pretty easy, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even involve parallel parking anymore. A lot of people here take a defensive driving course such as "Young Drivers" because it helps reduce insurance rates. I think I learned quite a bit when I went through that course and if France has something similar to that I would recommend that you get involved if you're uncomfortable at all behind a wheel.
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On May 25 2012 20:30 Zorkmid wrote:
I just spent 3 weeks driving in your country. It doesn't compute that it's tough to get a license there. No one seems to have a sweet fucking clue how to comport themselves on the road.
This man speaks the truth. Driving in France seems like suicide to me.
Driver's license in Germany is fairly easy, you have to take a certain number of lessons (quite a few actually) and then can take the theory test, after that the pracital test. Theory is super easy, they give you like this preparation kit with all of the questions and answers, so it's just plain memorization. The driving can be tricky depending on your examiner. Usually only a small percentage of people fail either test.
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On May 25 2012 20:18 Poltergeist- wrote:
Well, I have experience from two countries. I got my license in the US when I was sixteen, which was a breeze. Had to take some obligatory classes before I was allowed to test. Then I tested and passed both the theory part and the driving part on my first time (even though I messed up on the driving a bit). Then again, that was in Minnesota, I am guessing other states might be easier/more difficult.
Then I moved to Sweden and had to retake my drivers license from the start (so retarded btw) after a year of driving there. Once again, had to take a few obligatory classes and bullcrap, which was just a stupid cost, didn't learn anything. Then I promptly failed both the theory part and the driving part on the first time. Then passed them both on the second try.
All in all, I was a much better driver when I took the test in Sweden yet it cost way more and I failed the tests on the first try. Go figure.
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LoL Sweden people didn't accept your american driver ? That's tough !
About people driving in France, yeah maybe it's cultural. Most people I have spoken to either drive like shit and had their driver license early or drive normally but failed once or twice their licence... That's the way it is. But the driver licence is actually really hard - only 60% of people who gets it - maybe it's hard because people drive like shit lol.
Just for the curiosity, where were you in France ? Paris ?
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I tried learning to drive once when I was at home after turning 18 and another time after I moved to university.
Ridiculously hard the first time, and the examiner was very unhelpful. He told me to do a reverse park on a car that was parked in the road. The car promptly pulled away as soon as I pulled up parralell. When I asked what to do he just said "continue with the manoeuvre". When I pointed out that the car had gone he said "yes I know". Then he failed me for hesitating. WTF!
Anyway the second time I was very confident and driving incredibly well (not going to lie). However 1 week before the test my instructor changed his car to a petrol from a diesel. I got used to it quickly enough, but wasn't as experienced with the clutch. Came to a junction at the bottom of a hill and my clutch slipped and I rolled about a foot over the junction. The tiniest mistake can get you a fail here in the UK and the driver agency knows it and wants to milk it for all the money they can get. Its like having a job where you choose the amount of custom you get. The system is stupid and I think should be awarded based on your instructors recommendation after a minimum time. However it would bneed to be strictly regulated, but its not as if it would be any worse than the coin-flip that you get these days.
Rant over, congrats on passing!
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The exam is really hard in the Netherlands as well... I failed like 2 or 3 times before I finally passed it, because of really lame reasons like not accelarting fast enough in a goddamn empty countryside road -.-.. Anyways man, perservere! you will get there eventuall and then you won't even have to look at those dickfaced examinators anymore.
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From what i've read on this subject it seems that in europe things are quite a bit strict:
You are required to take around 28 Practical and Theoretical classes, meaning 56 classes total, and then you have to take separate exams for each part.
The theoretical exam is easy if you study, but the practical exam is heavily dependent on the guy who randomly gets assigned to examine you, i had a morbidly obese douchebag assigned to me, who blasted opera music for 15 minutes while giving me purpousely hard to follow instructions on where to go;so i would mess up and he could fail me.
Luckily i passed on both at the first try, but it's not weird at all for people to fail 2/3 times(happened to plenty of my friends) on the driving one, and it costs 250€ each time you fail it.
This experience is in portugal btw.
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I lived in a small town, or 'village' if you will, with almost no traffic. I passed the test on the first try even driving poorly, the guy said that even though my control of the car wasn't top notch my focus and awareness of my surroundings were, and that I would learn in time. I guess I was lucky.
All in all, the license cost me about ~800€. Then I lost it and had to retake it ^^; That is a whole different story that I'm not proud of, but the 2nd time around I knew how to drive and passed both theory and driving without even practicing for the 6 months I didn't have a license.
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In Germany it really isn't that hard. If you fail the practical test, you have to wait at least a month I think before taking it again. The test itself wasn't that expensive, if I remember correctly it was < 100 Euro. But I don't know if repeating it will increase the cost.
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In Belgium, the theory cost 15€, you have to answer 50 questions and you need a results of 41/50 to obtain it.
After the theory, you have two choices :
A) You can learn to drive with someone who has a license for 5 years and you can only drive with that person with you in the car. Then you can pass the practical test with your car or that person car, it will cost you 36€
B) Pass it with a driving school, you need to do 20 hours before passing the test and it will cost you 1000-1200€.
If you fail the practical test 3 time, you will need to have 6 hours lesson in a driving school(it cost 280-350€) before doing it again.
Everytime you pass the practical test, it will cost you 36€, the theory is 15€.
So here in belgium, it's pretty cheap if you pass it the first time but if you failed three or plus, it can be expensive.
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Wow you guys have it tough. In Australia (Or more specifically Victoria, the state I live in) you take a theory test to get your Learners license, which lets you drive but you have to always have someone with a full license with you. You are required to drive 120 hours on your Ps before you can go for your Ps (a theory test and a 45 min prac), then you get your Ps and can drive by yourself (There are still minor restrictions) and providing you don't fuck up you get a full license after 4 years. No
classes for us, you can get driving lessons but they are optional.
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Holy crap you guys have it really tough. Anyone with half a brain and a document claiming they are over 16 years of age can drive in America. when my dad was young you didnt even have to take class' or anything, my grampa just went to his friend in the licensing department and asked him to print a drivers license for my dad xD
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On May 25 2012 20:09 WhiteDog wrote:
Driver licence is insanely hard in my country.
I paid around 1500-2000 € at the moment, had the first test which is theory 6 month ago (bullshit questions and whatnot). Then I just passed my practical test yesterday, and, according to the woman who taught me how to drive, I failed to had it (didn't had the official response yet, tomorrow maybe).
Well I drove quite nicely, but at a moment, a guy came to me and I had to drove backward in the freaking small alley of Paris, almost hit another car... Well, now I have to wait at least 3 month to pass the test again, will cost me 200 - 250 € at least...
I was asking myself, did any other TLers passed it too ? How did it go, did anyone failed ? And how is it in your country, harder ? Easier ?
Hi!
I know that feel bro because im taking driving lessons too atm. (im at around 25h I think now).
They LITERALLY don't give the driving licence for any small reasons, and I have 2 persons I know that failed it 4 and 5 times lol.
Like "hey you're driving just a bit too close from this car" -> failed.
My test is in about 15 days. Q_Q
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Si tu rates ton permis, tu peux demander a passer en "conduite supervisée" (http://www.permisdeconduire.gouv.fr/les-permis/le-permis-b/se-former-a-la-conduite/la-conduite-supervisee/) durant la periode d'attente, généralement 3 mois, le temps de repasser ton permis, et surtout ca permet a moindre frais de pas perdre la main!
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On May 25 2012 23:04 schmutttt wrote:
Wow you guys have it tough. In Australia (Or more specifically Victoria, the state I live in) you take a theory test to get your Learners license, which lets you drive but you have to always have someone with a full license with you. You are required to drive 120 hours on your Ps before you can go for your Ps (a theory test and a 45 min prac), then you get your Ps and can drive by yourself (There are still minor restrictions) and providing you don't fuck up you get a full license after 4 years. No
classes for us, you can get driving lessons but they are optional.
hope you mean 120 hours on your l's before you can go for your p's =d
i'm still on my l's and i'm 19, turning 20 this year. i just can't be fucked getting 120 hours in my log book (because i'm away from home more than anything).
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On May 26 2012 01:12 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 23:04 schmutttt wrote:
Wow you guys have it tough. In Australia (Or more specifically Victoria, the state I live in) you take a theory test to get your Learners license, which lets you drive but you have to always have someone with a full license with you. You are required to drive 120 hours on your Ps before you can go for your Ps (a theory test and a 45 min prac), then you get your Ps and can drive by yourself (There are still minor restrictions) and providing you don't fuck up you get a full license after 4 years. No
classes for us, you can get driving lessons but they are optional. hope you mean 120 hours on your l's before you can go for your p's =d i'm still on my l's and i'm 19, turning 20 this year. i just can't be fucked getting 120 hours in my log book (because i'm away from home more than anything).
Didn't get my P's til i was 20 either! Not that it makes much difference.. Once you are on your P's you really dont feel the difference between that and a full license.. The 120 hours were easy for me, went and stayed with a retired family member and drove all day for 2 weeks, to nowhere, just for fun/experience!
I was shocked reading how hard/expensive/complicated it is in other countries! I'd say its cost me no more than $150 to this point..
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In California, United States it depends on wwhat city you take it in too b quite honest. Some of them are easy and some are hard.
Then theres the ones that fail you for not honking when you instead hit your break to not hit a kid
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I'm from New Hampshire in the United States, and the tests here were super easy for me. Our state motto is "live free or die", and it seems like it, cause everyone's pretty bad at driving. Our written test was 30 stupid multiple choice questions and I had a 10 minute driving test.
I don't know how some of my friends failed it, it was sooo easy. It also didn't cost very much compared to you guys, maybe a hundred USD total (for the tests, I took a driver's ed class but that wasn't mandatory or anything, only if I wanted my license at 16).
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