Monster - Page 2

On May 20 2012 20:22 Aelonius wrote:
I think this format is good as it allows you to have a bridge between the two games. It's definatly better than saying "Well.. ok... we quit BW right now. Go go SC2". First off you'd lose a lot of the community and secondly, what's better than seeing those champions you revere in BW, grow to the same level in SC2? Just give it time =)

"I am thy creature, and I will be even mild and docile to my natural lord and king, if thou wilt also perform thy part, the which thou owest me. Oh, Frankenstein, be not equitable to every other, and trample upon me alone, to whom thy justice, and even thy clemency and affection, is most due. Remember, that I am thy creature; I ought to be thy Adam; but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed. Everywhere I see bliss, from which I alone am irrevocably excluded. I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous."

On May 21 2012 04:22 Pokebunny wrote:
I actually think the format is really amazing for everyone except the players and the brood war fans who really hate sc2.

On May 21 2012 00:13 dreamseller wrote:
off topic, but the full paragraph for the frankenstein quote:



Basically the monster saying that Dr. Frankenstein was the cause of the monster becoming a fiend. The monster was abandoned by Dr. Frankenstein. He desired a mate at this stage, and happiness.

On May 21 2012 04:22 Pokebunny wrote:
I actually think the format is really amazing for everyone except the players and the brood war fans who really hate sc2.

On May 20 2012 04:39 hypercube wrote:
There's this weird human need to question the logic of a decision when you disagree with its goal. Kespa's decision is well-thought out. They want the maximum number of Korean BW fans to start watching SC2. That's their only goal. They're not dumb just want something very different than you do.

On May 21 2012 15:18 BrosephBrostar wrote:


Please, someone, anyone, explain to me why they want this. It's obvious that it's what they're going for, but I don't understand why. Everyone says it's for the money. Of course it's always about money. What money? Where do they think it's going to come from? Who is going to pay Jaedong to play SC2 that wouldn't do it for BW? Just one example would help me understand.

On May 21 2012 16:52 RenSC2 wrote:

Kespa never legally had the right to broadcast SCBW. Anytime Blizzard would be willing to alienate a whole lot of fanboys/girls and push the lawsuit to the end, they could have shut Kespa down. Blizzard probably didn't want to do it, but I'm sure they were using that power to pressure Kespa into changing over. Kespa had the matchfixing scandal, some lawsuits, and the rise of SC2 and LoL. They had a significantly declining fanbase and sponsors were dropping out while they were still contractually obligated to pay out some big salaries to players. They're down to only 8 teams and one of them can't even get a sponsor. Does that sound like a good position to be in?

Meanwhile, LG recently picked up sponsorship of IM (a SC2 team) rather than Team 8. That's huge. That's good money. The foreigner scene is also willing to pay out some big money for SC2 (see MLG's PPV, GOMTVs foreign subscriptions, and even the foreign teams poaching Korean players) while SCBW was never big in the foreigner scene. The SC2 scene will also likely receive another big boost of fans when HotS comes out... especially if Blizzard is able to better direct casual players to the competitive scene than they did on SC2 release (they've gotten better at it since then). Some SC2 related businesses are starting to turn a profit while the viewerbase is likely to grow massively with HotS and the Pro League adoption of SC2.

From an asset standpoint, SCBW is left with star power and a fading fanbase, but little else. How much longer could they really keep their star power in SCBW? If you were a SCBW pro and you saw ZergBong, MVP, and the suicide toss making more than $200k each in tournament earnings (+potentially nice salaries with LG sponsoring the first two and SK sponsoring the last one), wouldn't you strongly consider switching over? They may like SCBW more than SC2, but this is their profession.

The writing was on the wall for the players/league and they could either ride out SCBW to the bitter end and be left with nothing, or Kespa can do the best it can for its players and the league. Maybe you're right and nobody will pay to watch Jaedong play SC2, but their current situation is crap and they needed to make a move. So now they're in a transitional phase of getting their assets (their star power and fanbase) into something new. They're getting their players into the game in time for HotS where the metagame will be reset. Meanwhile, they aren't totally switching over because they could easily alienate their players and their fans. Don't tell me it wasn't painful seeing some no-name playing in the ace match instead of Flash.

Also, they'd currently be offering an inferior product to GSL/GSTL until their players catch up. This season, players will almost undoubtedly practice a lot more SC2 than SCBW and will hopefully start to be competitive with the GSL players by next season. Combine their actual abilities + star power + production value + established league, and they've got a very good chance of being successful into the future.

On May 21 2012 04:22 Pokebunny wrote:
I actually think the format is really amazing for everyone except the players and the brood war fans who really hate sc2.

# 1 Professional sportsmen are perfectly able to pick up a new sport and be good at it. For example, Michael Jordan, having quit basketball, was instantly picked up by a professional baseball team, as evidenced by the movie Space Jam. Playing two games at the same time will only add to their prowess.

# 2 To further ESPORTS we need to ensure the highest level of competition. Splitting your focus onto as many things as possible will help this. For instance, players like Incontrol, Painuser, and Destiny who use their time to also appear on talk shows, act as casters, play LoL, flip tables, and lift heavy weights, are also extremely successful at StarCraft 2. Furthermore, it is likely that dividing your practise time between the two games will only improve your play, as both skills complement one another.