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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#21
If this is a troll, it's a bad troll. If it's about how BW needs to end, then it doesn't make any sense. If it's about ZvZ and PvP being too luck based, then it's just plain wrong.

I don't understand what's going on here.
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
May 01 2012 21:52 GMT
#22
I read this and thought that it was going to be some bronze league sc2 talking shit about my childhood. (Masters league toss here). I think Broodwar will end and i think you are right about many things.

5/5
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 01 2012 21:57 GMT
#23
ZvZ in BW is really less luck based than you think, and saying it is worse than the clusterfuck that ZvZ is in SC2... I'm not really convinced.

Not to mention the irrationality of wanting something you enjoy ending faster. Now, it's your own opinion, and I have mine, but the thing is there are people that still want to watch BW. You don't even know the number of the Koreans that share the sentiment. Saying that BW needs to die now is... in lack of better word, preposterous.

blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 22:50:56
May 01 2012 22:48 GMT
#24
I kinda understand what the OP is getting at. A lot of the ODT games have been just terrible because of players practicing SC2 instead of BW. Maybe it's better to have no games rather than terrible games.

Of course, it'd be much much preferable for players who are currently qualified for a BW tournament to practice for the game they are actually playing on TV instead of for an as-yet non-existent hybrid Proleague. The fact that teams are apparently mandating SC2 practice instead disgusts me a little actually. Have some respect for your players and allow them to give their best in what's possibly the final pro BW tournament.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 01 2012 23:00 GMT
#25
ZvZ and PvP in Broodwar
Compared to ZvZ and PvP in SC2

Is far from a comparison that furthers your point.

I've actually been looking forward to a real test of "unimpressed Flash" memes and, more importantly, the elephant in the room that has been foretold.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 01 2012 23:03 GMT
#26
I agree with the OP in that, BW will end sooner or later, it is inevitable. The big argument always was of should it end sooner rather then later.

Personally I didn't follow the BW scene for a long time. I first got into SC2, but then I started to get interested in BW and followed its scene a bit. The few games of BW that I have seen have been amazing, breathtaking back and forth tactical and strategical master pieces.

In m short time with BW it has left a lasting impression on me, and it truly saddens me that its glorious run has to end someday. However my opinion, and probably that of the OP as well is that, it should end sooner.

They should just run one last full BW OSL and have a grand goodbye celebration to commemorate it, no half SC2 and half BW tournament. It would just dilute the level of play from each game, which would be a pity.

BW should always be remembered in its full glory, for the epic confrontations between Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, Jangbi and Stork, for the reigns of Nada, Savior (pre scandal), iloveoov and for all the rivals that stood against them.

I couldn't bare to see BW played at a lower level, so I would prefer it to go out with a bang, rather then wither away until I hate on how low the skill level reaches.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 02 2012 01:11 GMT
#27
Whether its BW or SC2, the scene can only exist with support and sponsorship. Blizzard has the financial backing and industry might to push SC2 as far as it wants to. BW can only exist through the well spoken words of Kespa executives and the crying of the [still majority] of BW fans ... and if there's enough financial incentive through one or the other well ...

this has been an inevitability for a while now.
starleague forever
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
May 02 2012 03:19 GMT
#28
nice blog. Well written and interesting train of thought. It's odd to see this opinion coming from someone who has long been one of those big BW community members.

As for the people who berated your blog without actually reading it, and obviously just skimming it or misunderstanding, well haters gonna hate. Ignore them, keep up the good work. Good blog, but I'll still miss BW : (
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
May 02 2012 04:05 GMT
#29
Great post! It's nice to see a post that's really backed with great supporting evidence and claims.

Brood War cannot go on forever, let it be replaced by a game with lesser game play because it is more aesthetically appealing. I mean, that first statement makes so much sense that I just want to switch to Starcraft 2 right fucking now. "Game graphics are getting better therefore better games will be developed". I made the same connection, because who wants 2D games who actually function better and are more interesting as far as game play dynamics anyway. It's better that we get to see a bunch of sprites overlap so that we're not too sure what's in the army, but holy shit does it ever look nice when it blows up!

Secondly, I totally agree that ZvZ and PvP in BW are entirely luck based, Jaedong just happened to have a weighted die... Perfectly normal that I flip heads 86% of the time I'd say. I don't really have any concrete examples that prove PvP is luck based, but I'm sure you can all find some in TLPD.

Past your entry two paragraphs I actually sincerely(non-sarcastically) agree with the rest, but, your entire blog should have been without the opening statements about the game itself... because it just makes you look like an idiot when the remainder of your blog is actually pretty legit, thus people won't read through it if they're BW fans, also, the title already incites rage. So, aside from the minor issues with the blog/identifying and addressing your audience, you have some valid points, however, one could argue that SC2 needs to die for exactly the same reasons... Thus, moot point, but at least it's less of an offensive argument and you're actually presenting stuff that makes sense. Just take into account when you post stuff like this, you don't have to convince SC2 fans, thus the BW fans should be your primary audience and given that it's a pitiful approach to say the least. Similarly, my post is also a terrible attempt to make a point with you, however, given that my primary point is to identify what you did wrong here, I'd say it's alright.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 04:39:52
May 02 2012 04:36 GMT
#30
Bw has to end today but this wouldn't be the topic being discuss if sc2 wasn't in the picture from the beginning and yeah I half heartedly blame sc2 for the end of bw in a way . I am about to talk trash about sc2 again but I will refrain from doing that again because in the end what I say or express about that superb starcraft 2 will not change anything unless I become a developer of sc2 .

Let's just say that every good thing has come to an end but we are not in the position to give that command right now as kespa is having one more season of broodwar than it is really over for us bw fans and some of us may stick around to watch the really amazing sequel of sc2 take flight or possibly see it crashing down because of few minor technicalities that occur . I really hope that sc 2 is actually preparing to overhaul it's over all game play and make it more enjoying to be a spectator of the game like broodwar .

Still I will remember that broodwar did not die because of sc2 but the decision of kespa and sponsor who forced broodwar cornered in to this position . I will go around moping like a sad puppy but I think I will be able to get over it soon .

Finally I just want to state that there has never been a game played globally at this level of popularity of broodwar . It went down fighting and not died of like some coward . In my attempt to feel really moody about all this situation this song really describes my feeling over the situation that is happening right now ..

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 02 2012 07:23 GMT
#31
Well, looks like you were right.
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