After following Starcraft for 2 years I can safely say this game is bad. Well bad to play at any rate. I don't like it anymore and I know a few people that have been feeling like this for a while too. So why am I still here? Well, I can still watch it and gain some sort of entertainment so it's not completely gone from my life like some games have.
With the disappearance of Starcraft 2 from my schedule, it marks the end of something I've been for as long as I can remember. I've played games since I was 4 years old and I'm going on 19 in a few months. Suddenly I'm not a gamer anymore. No modern games are any good to me. Starcraft was the last game I played and probably is going to be the second last game I'll ever play. As I'm getting Diablo 3 for free I might as well play a character to the end of the game. Likely a Barbarian character because it's simple brute force which is all I can spare effort for anymore.
It's kind of a liberating thought to be honest. I have all this free time which, arguably, was already there to begin with and yet all I did when I was younger was play games. It literally was my existence. Get up, go to school, come home and play video games all night. I don't want to blame games for my errors in education. I fucked up. I have to leave university now but I actually think that's a good idea. I think if I wasn't so stuck on play games all the time I would have passed this year but I wouldn't have enjoyed the course anyway so it's a blessing in disguise I guess. I was studying game programming by the way. Soul destroying stuff and I'm so glad to be rid of it.
But now I have nothing to do. I've been sitting here at my computer every night just wondering what the fuck I'm supposed to do. I kept launching Starcraft only to close it again after a game or two. I have the WoW beta but premade character templates aren't available so I'm not playing that currently. As if WoW was a game anyway
I have a keyboard and guitar sitting there unused so I think I'll turn to music for my spare time. I have 4 months of holiday and I'll be damned if I sit here for all 4 months doing nothing. I always wanted to learn instruments so I guess I'll be doing that soon. I believe music is key to being happy in life but have never had the time due to, you guessed it, games being in the way.
Maybe it wasn't the games but the personality. I'm hesitant to blame either games or myself so I'll just leave it alone. It was probably both. Games are such an excellent procrastination medium after all.
At least with all this talk of Brood War players playing SC2 I might get to see a game that I can't call out what's going to happen after the players place their first couple of buildings. I doubt it though SC2 just seems designed for stale repetitive builds being played against each other again and again. It's all very monotonous.
I think all my new found spare time will be put towards learning Korean and learning how to play guitar and piano. I'm actually pretty happy about that. I also recently bought Chessmaster 9000 from gog.com which I don't count as a computer game as such. I love chess so maybe I'll get half decent at that.
Well see you all around.
Actually now that I think about I'll likely buy HotS and Legacy so I can finish the story. I hate leaving things unfinished like that.
On May 01 2012 15:12 johnnywup wrote: whatever floats your boat man. if its not making you happy or entertaining you like it was, drop it. whatever you want, keep yourself happy ^^
Yeah exactly ^^
I can't wait until college starts again. I'm itching for things to do and for the first time in my life I want to be studious.
Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
^^ They were meant to be upgraded dragoons, dragoon shells with dark templar tech,hence the silvery color as opposed to the golden tinge that dragoons had.
My biggest problems with stalkers is that they shoot like wimps, compare that to the dragoon animation, the goon feels so powerful and nice when the plasma ball strikes.
You notice this being a starcraft forum when an OP talking about leaving games in generel becomes a talk about sc vs sc2 =)
What you are experiencing are "getting older" Might sound silly but its the truth. You need something deeper then what games can provide and thus games don't have you're attention anymore. I've experienced this myself in the past. But don't give up on games, just enjoy them differently.
When I was younger I played games basicly because that was what I did. Most of the time it wasn't even that fun, I just did it. But for the last couple of years I only play when I enjoy it and when I actually want to play. Its rare that I play any game. SC2 isn't even installed. So play when you want to play and not because you feel like you have to. =) And do something else stupid with your time... Learn juggling (i did) or do the music =)
Starcraft has no RPG element too it. One has to create their own motivation.
There is no leveling up, no acquiring armor, no statistical advantage over your opponent other than skill. As you improve, the matches get harder and more frustrating. No wonder LoL is more popular than SC2.
I won't get into whether or not SC is a balanced or exciting game. But, for a competitive RTS that's played 1v1, its pretty good.
On May 01 2012 18:35 SmOkeYNaGaTa wrote: Starcraft has no RPG element too it. One has to create their own motivation.
There is no leveling up, no acquiring armor, no statistical advantage over your opponent other than skill. As you improve, the matches get harder and more frustrating.
On May 01 2012 17:23 Dirkzor wrote: You notice this being a starcraft forum when an OP talking about leaving games in generel becomes a talk about sc vs sc2 =)
What you are experiencing are "getting older" Might sound silly but its the truth. You need something deeper then what games can provide and thus games don't have you're attention anymore. I've experienced this myself in the past. But don't give up on games, just enjoy them differently.
When I was younger I played games basicly because that was what I did. Most of the time it wasn't even that fun, I just did it. But for the last couple of years I only play when I enjoy it and when I actually want to play. Its rare that I play any game. SC2 isn't even installed. So play when you want to play and not because you feel like you have to. =) And do something else stupid with your time... Learn juggling (i did) or do the music =)
I once also tought that i was getting older.
Sad fact is, no.. Thats only half the story.. It's just that SC2 is boring and bland. I can waste tons of time on Dota 2 and various other games. I bite my ass of to get thru Trials Evolution, i "learned" EU Imperialis.... ... Your not getting older, SC2 is just underwhelming to say the least...
Sure i got some other top priorities now (i'm 28)... But i can still dig into a game as deep as i want, if it's worth it.
... You could have mentioned your lague, so i'd have something to shit on. Sorry but I have little respect for a quitter. "Being productive"... ok GL with that. Mostly gamers blow off steam in games. If you are in no need of that then congratulations, i envy you. But really, this blog seems pointless imo. Nice writing anyways. gl in future.
I have 4 months of holiday and I'll be damned if I sit here for all 4 months doing nothing. [...] I've been sitting here at my computer every night just wondering what the fuck I'm supposed to do
I don't know what this blog post wants to achieve. Sometimes someone just wants you to listen and not to advise. So if you don't want my point of view just ignore my post.
I really would recommend you to search for a holiday job where you just do something with your hands and other people instead of brain-work. I had some similar situation when I finished school and I just didn't know what to study. I decided to do my civilian service and this was really a bless for my personality and self progress. It can be really satisfying to work hard and see what you've done.
When you are at school the society tells you what you have to do but after this suddenly the society doesn't care anymore. So you have to find a passion yourself because otherwise you just feel a big hole inside your life and by sitting in your room all day long this would not bring you any further.
Also I think just playing piano or guitar instead of video games would not fulfill your life with happiness. If you want to have a change you have to do something bigger then that.
"Happiness only real when shared" my favorite quote from the film Into the Wild.
Sorry, but you are just a quitter, both in Bw and Sc2. I remember you opening a thread about playing BW and trying to hit B etc. Although a lot of people offered advice, you left pretty quickly. You just seem like a person without real determination. Pick a hobby/game you really like and invest real time there. Don't attention whore and waste your time without a real goal or you won't get further in life. Still good luck to you in the future.
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D
I totally can't emphasize how much this simply isn't the case.
Collossi are a boring 1a no-micro unit that causes the matchups with P in them to congregate around collossi deathballs.
Whereas the reaver, with its unique characteristics, caused it to be a unit whose ability to do damage scaled very highly with the micromanagement and multitasking capabilities of the player, leading to some interesting dynamics in all of the P matchups.
The Collossus is, to be quite honest, one of the worst units in SC2 [possibly the worst] from the standpoint of designing an interesting competitive game.
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
A very good post, I totally know how you feel, bro, except that I had this "period" somewhere like four years ago. That's when I almost stopped any gaming, and started improving in other, much more creative fields. Try drawing, if music doesn't do you justice. (I am constantly switching between those two)
Also, korean is FUN, don't stop learning it, once you have started.
Still, I feel like playing from time to time is ok, you just need to do it rarely so you feel much more fun when you suddenly let yourself to spend some time on playing games.
Also, make some interesting friends that are doing something with their lives (i.e. - drawing, music, theater, sport, writing et cetera), and try to learn from them how to live YOUR live.
You will thank yourself 10 years from now if your really do stop playing video games. Its something i am trying to slowly ween myself off of. Video games are great if you can control the amount you play but video games are damn addicting, its not that video games are bad for you its rather what could you be doing instead of playing video games 6 hours a day. Suddenly your day has been given freedom. So good luck and if you ever feel like mass gaming again reflect on this blog again Good Luck!
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D
I totally can't emphasize how much this simply isn't the case.
Collossi are a boring 1a no-micro unit that causes the matchups with P in them to congregate around collossi deathballs.
Whereas the reaver, with its unique characteristics, caused it to be a unit whose ability to do damage scaled very highly with the micromanagement and multitasking capabilities of the player, leading to some interesting dynamics in all of the P matchups.
The Collossus is, to be quite honest, one of the worst units in SC2 [possibly the worst] from the standpoint of designing an interesting competitive game.
"Collossi are a boring 1a no-micro unit"
Isn't everything in SCII 1a no-micro rooofl... jking don't hate.
I think the point is, in BW, even buggy shits are fun.
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
LOL? wow, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about reavers are 10x more effective, and theyre hard to use lurkers and scourge is what made zerg different from the rest of the races, sc2 units are much more binary compared to BW in that regard and the role of stalkers and dragoons are also alot different, kids who haven't played BW(like yourself), shouldn't be stating such funny/ridiculous comments
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
LOL? wow, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about reavers are 10x more effective, and theyre hard to use lurkers and scourge is what made zerg different from the rest of the races, sc2 units are much more binary compared to BW in that regard and the role of stalkers and dragoons are also alot different, kids who haven't played BW(like yourself), shouldn't be stating such funny/ridiculous comments
dude, haduken has been a member since 2003. Pretty sure he has played BW -____-
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
LOL? wow, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about reavers are 10x more effective, and theyre hard to use lurkers and scourge is what made zerg different from the rest of the races, sc2 units are much more binary compared to BW in that regard and the role of stalkers and dragoons are also alot different, kids who haven't played BW(like yourself), shouldn't be stating such funny/ridiculous comments
ROFL... The collosi remark was misguided but you honestly can't argue that Collosi wasn't better.
Collosi walks faster, shoots faster and easier to use. Reaver was harder to use because sacrab AI was retarded, it was more fun to use for sure, I never argued that part. But Collosi is 100% better as a siege unit.
How exactly was Reaver 10x more effective? The ONLY situation when it is BETTER was doing a worker harrass AND that's only when the scrab AI was working. Scrab instant kill and that's about it.
How exactly is dragon different to stalker? Maybe you should enlighten me? They both have the same role in a toss army, Stalker have blink, goon doesn't?
On May 01 2012 16:13 haduken wrote: Reaver was replaced with collosi which is a better unit :D so i didn't mind really.
Lurkers and scourge don't care, glad they are gone, make pvz easier. I only play protoss. I understood the reasoning behind them at least, with new mechanics, lurkers and scourge are obsolete, lurker will be useless because protoss have a reasonable seige unit in collosi and storm can really rofl over it now.
I was mad with stalker as there is absolutely no point in replacing it. Dragoon did exactly the same role as stalker... what was the point?
LOL? wow, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about reavers are 10x more effective, and theyre hard to use lurkers and scourge is what made zerg different from the rest of the races, sc2 units are much more binary compared to BW in that regard and the role of stalkers and dragoons are also alot different, kids who haven't played BW(like yourself), shouldn't be stating such funny/ridiculous comments
ROFL... The collosi remark was misguided but you honestly can't argue that Collosi wasn't better.
Collosi walks faster, shoots faster and easier to use. Reaver was harder to use because sacrab AI was retarded, it was more fun to use for sure, I never argued that part. But Collosi is 100% better as a siege unit.
How exactly was Reaver 10x more effective? The ONLY situation when it is BETTER was doing a worker harrass AND that's only when the scrab AI was working. Scrab instant kill and that's about it.
How exactly is dragon different to stalker? Maybe you should enlighten me? They both have the same role in a toss army, Stalker have blink, goon doesn't?
Are you comparing two units from two different games in terms of utility? Or that the collossus provides better spectating value than the reaver?
If its the former, that's on the level of the childhood arguments of whether batman would beat spiderman in a fight.
I wasn't really comparing Collosi with reaver. I meant to say I prefer Collosi as to reaver in SCII. If we had the same reaver with the same general design in SCII then it wouldn't be a far stretch to say that Collosi is a superior unit. This was my personal preference and it was a throw away remark. If all you haters are butt hurt over this then fine, I concede, I apologize for the imprecision of my language.
Seriously why are you BW lovers all attacking me lol, go back to my original post in this thread, I ASKED WHY BLIZZARD HAD TO REPLACE DRAGOON WITH STALKERS. I'M ON YOUR SIDE FFS. I only responded as some kid start telling me stalker plays a different role to dragoon, okay, please tell me how, I'm genuinely curious.
Stalkers are much much more mobile that dragoons, less armored and with less firepower. A heavy stalker composition with blink in SC2 is way way way more mobile than a BW army made mostly of dragoons.
I think the important part is that you took the first step and decided that you want to be studious once college starts again. In the meantime, I suggest you try finding a job or at least reading books with subjects you are interested in as well as learning new skills which I believe you wanted to do(piano and guitar).
As for SCII, well, that's natural. I was heavy into games when I was younger but I found that as time passed, I started enjoying games less and less to the point where SCII is the only game I play and even then, it's a couple of games every couple of days. The other two games that I'm even remotely interested in are Diablo III and LoL but I dunno if I'll even end up playing them. I just feel like there are a lot more important things to do outside now and that I would much rather contribute to society
Ive been fighting to come back to consistent sc2 playing but I just cant do it, the game really needs HoTs. The game has become way to fucking stale. To many all-ins, to many "1 big battle GG"s and B.Net 0.2 is a bad combo to have.
You do have to face the getting older thing to, everyone has the same feeling of "Oh my god, when I was a kid i was so mezmorized by games that was my life" Everybody has that man, when your a kid youve never played all these different types of games and had these online experiences not to mention having a ton of time on your hands. You have to realize right now that there are a ton of 8-15 year olds who are losing there shit over how good SC2 is just as you did with BW when you were a kid. Now that your older you cant recreate that same Nostalgia.
On May 01 2012 16:49 phosphorylation wrote: How about Broodwar? Surely, one cannot become tired of playing it.
i personally had a lot of trouble finding games of bw when i switched over to sc2 and i can't imagine it being any easier now with kespa switching
though it is harder to get tired of bw than sc2 by far lol
If you can make games you will get someone to join in under a minute (pretty much immediately at D levels) on iCCup. It's hard to get BW games if you can't make, but absurdly easy if you can.
i remember when i quit final fantasy 11 after realizing what a horrible game it was. i was addicted for 6 months.
it left a huge vacuum in my life. i was failing school, almost got kicked out. i had no idea what to do.
i tried giving up my computer and a funny thing happened. i would just sit at my desk and stare into space. despite having a ton of homework to do. despite having a lecture to go to. i would sit and stare. i tried replacing it with other things. i played through some other games. watched a ton of anime. but it really felt like i just put a band-aid over a broken bone. i didn't know what the problem was and i didn't know how to fix it.
it took several months to get out of that funk. i don't know what i did, or how i did it. i just know that when the next academic quarter started and after a long summer break, i got my head back in the game, or at least, enough to pass university. i definitely feel like that brief addiction just killed a lot of me and it still had its effects on me.
so, good luck in pursuing your future. i would say something like "don't fall in the same pitfall as me" but since i don't know what caused it or how i got out, it would be nothing but fruitless words.
It starts with battle.net 2.0, moves on to the maps which have finally gotten some what better, onto the game play.
I really believe Browder is destroying this game. How can you have a command and conquer guy make starcraft 2, and bring CnC stuff into sc2 and think it will be great.
HEY BROWDER IF WE WANT CNC WE WILL GET CNC. STOP MAKING UNITS WITH ALL THESE SKILLS. WE WANT MORE BASIC UNITS AND THE USER WILL SHOW THE SKILL OF THE UNIT.
To be honest a hobby is going to be a hobby. Whether or not you believe your hobby is productive or not is up to you but personally I believe that if your hobby is not influencing your physical well being then it's not being very productive.
That means that playing the piano and guitar may be more respectable from an outside opinion than SC2 maybe, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is more productive. However, working out, and studying, getting work done early is very productive because it makes a direct immediate impact on your life.
Gaming doesn't have to be all or nothing. I derp around in master league as zerg, play drums in a band and have a full time job. Yet I still seem to have time to watch more anime than any one I know.
If you don't feel like playing then don't. If you do feel like playing then play. No need to make some sort of dramatic statement about what to do with your life.
I understand I played a fuckload but it didn't hold that same grasp on me as other games. I played Warcraft 3 day in day out for 4+ years that was my true love. Now that I have finished school and have a full time job it doesn't seem "fun" to me to play starcraft, I love Dota 2 and other games but Starcraft 2 killed my RTS side.
I guess it’s because I don't want to invest what time I have when I'm not working or at gym, in studying and trying to be mediocre at a game. When I could play some DotA or sit down and play a game with a storyline and enjoy that. I played through the campaign on SC2 a bit, it kind of blows though.
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