EPTWe need another "good" president that was almost universally liked (FDR comes to mind). At least from what I learned in US history, FDR pulled us out of some serious stuff.
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
We need another "good" president that was almost universally liked (FDR comes to mind). At least from what I learned in US history, FDR pulled us out of some serious stuff. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:23 sc2superfan101 wrote: i don't hate Obama, but i definitely sympathize with your classmates. i wonder, why do you not like Glenn Beck? the tone of your story implied that this guy was a complete moron because he said he likes Glenn Beck and thinks that he is smart, so what facts and figures do you have for your opinion that Glenn Beck isn't smart? any specifics, or just little tidbits like "he's crazy" or "he's stupid! faux news!!" or some variation of those two statements? and, i don't want to sound mean, but you definitely come off as elitist here. not that it's not normal for a young kid who is probably smart to be a little elitist, Lord knows that I was. but you do come off as "oh man, I am so smart and better because I refuse to have an opinion and my classmates are so stupid because they have an opinion i don't agree with and they don't back it up with facts." this in particular made me laugh: sounds like you do have an opinion... a relatively uninformed opinion. maybe even a few opinions. further more, if the economy is bad in your area, and could be better, why is it so strange that these kids would also want that? or are parents the only ones who are allowed to want more jobs? that is an opinion that is unfounded. honestly, what research do you want these people to do? not everyone can be political scientists, and there is nothing wrong with an uneducated opinion. if you think there is, well then i will have to call you elitist, because that's like, the definition of elitism. because they are young, and also because a lot of times, that's the way things are. also, i could easily say: "It fucking blows my mind, yo! How can you see things as grey when they are so clearly black and white?" i would say, hey. people think a lot of things. they have a lot of different opinions. sometimes those opinions are not based on facts and figures, and sometimes those opinions are, god forbid, based on something they heard on the television. (oh heavens no! not that!!) does this mean that they are wrong? not really. does it mean that they are stupid? not really. does it mean that sitting on the fence is wrong, stupid, smart, or right? not really. it means that people are people, and try to remember that you aren't as different from the people you described as you think you are. there are numerous examples of Glenn Beck fearmongering, with NO facts to back up his claims. He inciuates that Obama is waging war on religion, the common man, and countless other things, perhaps even apple pie and baseball! Yes, Glenn Beck is just a fucking retard. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:53 Epishade wrote: I've always hated politics and it sounds like your area is notorious for being anti-obama. I always try to steer clear of politics because I'm sick of hearing people's wildly dumb opinions for supporting/going against some person. For me, I dislike Obama because I don't think he's done a good job of being president of our country. I couldn't say anything specific and list statistics, but I think most people could see that we (this country) is still doing pretty bad economically with a high unemployment rate. That being said, I haven't noticed any outstanding republican nominees either. I don't see this economic downturn changing for the better anytime soon (if not in the next 4 years anyways). We need another "good" president that was almost universally liked (FDR comes to mind). At least from what I learned in US history, FDR pulled us out of some serious stuff. In which universe was FDR almost universally liked? In the election of 1944 his popular vote percentage was comparable to Obama in 2008. There were 46 or so % of American voters who did not vote for him. Also lets not forget that this is the same FDR that forced over 100,000 Japanese Americans to detention camps. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:50 Diglett wrote: from what i understand your problem is not neccesarily with the obama hate but with obama hate backed by really stupid reasoning. precisely | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:25 Whole wrote: And some where so hard and timed that almost no one could pass it...until the Grandfather Clause basically allowed all whites to vote regardless of the test. Alabama Literacy Test Louisiana Literacy Test (stupidly hard; interesting read) That's pretty interesting stuff. But I still have to say, the literacy tests were clearly biased. If no one accuses naturalization tests as bias and there clearly isn't any, why not make natural born Americans take them? | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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htn2481
Vietnam117 Posts
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don_kyuhote
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When I was in High School in 2008, probably 90% of the students at my high school were pro-obama and anti-mccain. | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
Anyways, it is rare to see a republican, even though there are some prominent ones. People aren't passionate about Obama but they think that he is the lesser of two evils. People think that many of the republican candidates are a joke. | ||
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willz22912
United States255 Posts
One of the reasons why Obama won in '08 aside from the Republicans having terrible candidates was that a decent portion of the 20-30 population actively got out there and campaigned for him. Our demographic (I'm 22) usually is the most apolitical, the fact that your school is already so politicized shows that people are taking note of this and try to actively push them towards a particular way of thinking. A lot of how people turn out the way they are is through their parents influence yes, but as you can see many people change their views later on in life after getting a chance to actively think things through. It also is highly dependent on where you are, NYC(where I am) is incredibly democratic as are other many places in the US. The opposite is true in many cases including your state obviously, it's just kind of taken as granted unfortunately causing this national divide of red vs blue states. It's probably a lost cause at your high school at this point to change anyone's opinion but at least you'll get a radically different (probably more positive) atmosphere at college if you decide to go. | ||
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Glaceau
Wales333 Posts
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
On April 10 2012 14:48 Glaceau wrote: who cares government and religion are both jokes The problem he's highlighting isn't one of government or religion. Rather, it's about how people decide whether or not to like or dislike something, and the fact that for those around him, it's based on rather questionable rationales. | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On May 06 2012 13:31 xXFireandIceXx wrote: This is why democracy eventually fails. Democracy depends upon an informed populace. Back in 1776 when the great men established America, almost every single citizen _believed_ in this nation and truly _wanted_ to be part of a free America. Nowadays, most ppl (Obama haters and Obama lovers) do not have a single clue as to a) how the financial crisis occured, b) how the US was actually rescued by WWII, not simply the New Deal, c) just how much deregulation occured under Bill Clinton, and d) how in the hell the President can "cure" the economy. And those are just some of the numerous issues facing America. In 1776, still roughly one third of the population we're loyalist to great britain. And people are far more educated now a days. The literacy rate was abysmal in 1776. Anyway, from a fellow louisianan, I know your pain. But at least we have great food! | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On May 06 2012 14:33 MattBarry wrote: In 1776, still roughly one third of the population we're loyalist to great britain. And people are far more educated now a days. The literacy rate was abysmal in 1776. Anyway, from a fellow louisianan, I know your pain. But at least we have great food! I would highly question "far more educated". Education has different meanings in different times and literacy rate is not the sole indicator of being informed. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I'm actually from Louisiana as well (New Orleans to be exact). We're kind of an outlier in that New Orleans is pretty pro-Obama ( I believe we were 70=30 in favor of him in 2008 and the rest of the state was flipped), and I'm proud of that. But I've been to other parts of Louisiana, and well, unfortunately, there's a reason that we rate as one of the overall, well, shittiest states in the US. I went to a good high school and everything, so I was largely insulated from the Obama nonsense. There were a handful of republicans, some of whom were good friends of mine, that were very intelligent about their beliefs and positions. Still, there was a birther/Obama hates Jews girl... I try to correct her sometimes, but its not very succesful. I can only imagine what you must have to deal with. Blind hate of Obama has seemed especially severe compared to other political figures though. edit: and holy crap that literacy test. its impossible, i don't even know what half the questions are asking... | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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