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Bronze Part 3: Casually Cruel - Page 4

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Bawert
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16 Posts
March 10 2012 02:42 GMT
#61
Enjoyed, as always. But i just think the bronzies are just missing that click I think everyone gets at some point, where you realize if you have too many minerals, you don't have enough production structures. The second that clicked in my head, i got so much better. But man, I don't know how you manage to not go insane with the "strategy" of bronze players.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
March 10 2012 03:08 GMT
#62
Perhaps bronzies are players who like to see a particular scenario happen. My friend loves seeing void rays rip shit up, when playing against AI, he would mass up 200/200 void rays and kill off every single building/unit in the field even after the AI 'surrenders'.

A Terran bronze leaguer may want to mass BCs late game. Perhaps they aren't interested in absolutely anything else. They don't want to learn macro/micro, they just want to see 200/200 BC army, even if it is off 1 base with 5 starports.
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bre1010
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
71 Posts
March 10 2012 03:10 GMT
#63
I was crying with laughter at the part where you talked about the SCVs hiding being the fog and ambushing you like idiot ninjas.

I love these.
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 03:28:18
March 10 2012 03:20 GMT
#64
Disagree with a previous poster in this thread - This /doesn't/ get old.
I beg of you, please make more. Love reading this on weekends, it lights up my evenings.

Just a word though, a lot of people who play SC2 might not be able to read English. English isn't the main language in many countries, and I know of many people who get to ages 16-17 without being able to speak English well (or being able to read it fast enough to follow a chat before it disappears in-game).

It's okay if you mock the people who reply like retards, but take into account that some of your opponents might just be 11-12 year old kids that don't speak English and this is their first video game, and even skills like knowing where every key on the keyboard without having to look and search for it are difficult for them.

Obviously those kids are also unaware of the fact this game is 'competitive', and they just play to build their favorite-looking units. (might explain the hydras?)

---

Either way, for all the people who are capable of reading gheed's advice and yet still fail to follow it: please, by all means, take a long break from this game. Like, at least two months. And if you decide to return to playing, try to stop and think about what you do before doing it.

Bronze levels really aren't far from low masters anyway!
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Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
March 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#65
I like your blogs but seriously detest how easily you throw around the word "retarded"

It would be extremely appreciated if you toned it down a little.

Anyways, great series ^^
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
March 10 2012 03:34 GMT
#66
On March 10 2012 11:04 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 10:09 architecture wrote:
There's a way to tie a shoelace in one motion.

If i told you hey all you have to do is this one motion, and you will be able to do this, what do you think responses in real life will be like?

Not very different I imagine.

Some people won't care, they don't see why they need to do it.
Some people will be mad that you are showing them something new.
Some people won't be able to do it the first time, even after you show them or tell them it.


It'd be more like, people join a shoe-tying competition with you. They lose to your one motion, then refuse to learn how to do it better even though they are still joining shoe-tying competitions with others...


And even after 1600 shoe tying fights, they still can't do it.
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
March 10 2012 03:45 GMT
#67
You couldn't look at a bronzie's ZvT and tell him to "scout more," because even if he scouted, he wouldn't know what he was looking at or what to do about it if he did. There are so many things wrong at the low level that it's impossible to identify a single thing to improve. It's like looking at a head-on collision between two trains and labeling each bolt failure. It's not the bolts that are important, it's the fact that it's a fucking train wreck. This is why rather than give specific help, people advise simply to "macro better," because at the low levels knowing how to do basic things is more important than knowing more obtuse things like strategy.

Amazing quote.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
March 10 2012 03:46 GMT
#68
On March 10 2012 12:20 Aqo[il] wrote:


Bronze levels really aren't far from low masters anyway!
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i feel bad. for how fucking long i laughed.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 03:58:57
March 10 2012 03:57 GMT
#69
On March 10 2012 09:55 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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On March 10 2012 09:47 Blazinghand wrote:
There are a lot of people in this thread who really don't get it.

tbh, i actually don't get it. at all. can you explain it to me?

cause it seems that it's:

They are bronze and bronze is terrible, so I prove that with an experiment to show how stupid and terrible they are. And surprise surprise a lot of them get mad when they are faced with this attitude and lash out. I will then show how much better I am than them in both SC2 playing ability and in real life by taking screenshots and writing a verbose post about how mad I made them and how terrible they are. This implies that I'm intelligent because I am tricking all these people who are terrible and stupid and I'm also witty in how mad I got them. Did I mention how stupid and terrible they are?

am i on the right track here?


No, you're not on the right track. Are you mad, bro? read the god damned op.

There's a difference between skill and knowledge. In order to deal with a worker rush, you need to know about attack move. That's it, no skill required - just KNOWLEDGE. An autistic six year old can deal with it if he KNOWS that he is supposed to attack move.

The funny thing is that people fail despite him telling them how to do it. It's not that they lack skill, it's that they fail at a task that takes no skill, only knowledge, when he provides them with the knowledge.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 04:02:55
March 10 2012 04:00 GMT
#70
I love the bronze players that are getting mad in comments. I also feel extremely smart and proud at myself when I see what these bronze players do.
Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
March 10 2012 04:04 GMT
#71
I love you to death, and fear for your sanity.
AiurOG
Profile Joined March 2011
United States98 Posts
March 10 2012 04:11 GMT
#72
I'm low diamond, and anytime I need to feel better about how terrible I am, I just have to read your posts Gheed.
metalshoes
Profile Joined September 2011
United States11 Posts
March 10 2012 04:39 GMT
#73
This makes me laugh harder than anything I can think of... I love you sir.
I make toss look hard.
ArcticMuse
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia93 Posts
March 10 2012 04:58 GMT
#74
On March 10 2012 11:04 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 10:09 architecture wrote:
There's a way to tie a shoelace in one motion.

If i told you hey all you have to do is this one motion, and you will be able to do this, what do you think responses in real life will be like?

Not very different I imagine.

Some people won't care, they don't see why they need to do it.
Some people will be mad that you are showing them something new.
Some people won't be able to do it the first time, even after you show them or tell them it.


It'd be more like, people join a shoe-tying competition with you. They lose to your one motion, then refuse to learn how to do it better even though they are still joining shoe-tying competitions with others...


No, that's incorrect. You assume that all bronze level players consider playing sc2 to be a completely competitive event. This is clearly not the case, otherwise all these people would be taking the advice to heart and doing their best to improve. Just because you view this game like a hardcore gamer doesn't mean everyone else does.

And so the question is asked again... why is it ok to insult someone who is bad/new/not taking the game as seriously as you funny?
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 10 2012 05:05 GMT
#75
This actually made me really depressed for some reason..
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 05:06:55
March 10 2012 05:06 GMT
#76
It seems you forgot what it was like to be bronze. Half the questions you asked can be easily answered by any bronze player, provided you didn't just piss them off with a worker rush.
That said, you were probably kidding.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 10 2012 05:07 GMT
#77
"Everything they do is so unnatural, so counterintuitive that I'm not sure anyone can actually teach them."

I can teach them. And I will teach them. You will see.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
BoxedLunch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
March 10 2012 05:11 GMT
#78
as a fellow worker rusher, i have seen the epic failure of the bronze league.

and it is hilarious.

love you, gheed
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are not
Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
March 10 2012 05:11 GMT
#79
On March 10 2012 08:17 Gheed wrote:
I had been sitting on two bases, clumsily making some gateway units and Colossi. Eventually I moved out and rolled over him. I didn't micro or anything, I just a-moved.

You just described every single Protoss.


... sorry.

Good blog, as usual! Entertained me once again.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 10 2012 05:25 GMT
#80
That was a very funny read as usual.
I always love the bonus part.
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