Bronze Part 3: Casually Cruel - Page 12

On March 20 2012 22:23 Inori wrote:
So much elitist downtalk & bashing on bronze players, you probably know a lot about the game. Oh wait, you never got past platinum level...

How about you play somebody masters/GM level and let them analyze your perfected timings, action-packed tactics and deep strategical decisions?


There's a huge difference between good humor and trying to pull a laugh off of somebodies misfortune. This guy is the equivalent of high school bullies. You know, the ones that beat kids then laugh at them and tell them it's their fault for being weak.

P.S. In before "u mad cuz u lost to worker rushes" - when I was actively playing I was mid-high masters, beating quite a few players that are now GM. I consider people below my level mediocre at best (myself included), that said I'd never think about abusing my skills to shove that opinion into opponent faces and even worse make an actual hobby out of it. That's probably the reason I got out of platinum league so quickly, as opposed to OP.
It's just that abusive people like him piss me off. A lot. World would be a much better place without them.

On March 21 2012 18:14 Inori wrote:

And the award for taking words out of context goes to....

On March 22 2012 15:33 Inori wrote:
I never mentioned that getting into masters/GM is something extraordinary or hard, in fact I stated the opposite - that I consider myself mediocre.
Sentence about getting out of plat much faster faster than OP is literraly the definition of taking stuff out of context, because if you'd actually read it in-context you'd realize that it was a "I didn't waste time on beating lower skilled players so I got out of plat", nothing more.

And I spend the entire post explaining that his relative skill is shit (which is a fact, not elitism), actually making him the hipocrite and a bully.
If I were to say that a bum is poor, would I be elitist too?
If I were to ask a school bully to pick somebody his size or bigger instead of beating up elementary school kids, would I be elitist too?

tl;dr: I'm ranting against OP downtalking on lower leaguers while being in plat, not for being in plat.

On March 22 2012 15:33 Inori wrote:
I never mentioned that getting into masters/GM is something extraordinary or hard, in fact I stated the opposite - that I consider myself mediocre.
Sentence about getting out of plat much faster faster than OP is literraly the definition of taking stuff out of context, because if you'd actually read it in-context you'd realize that it was a "I didn't waste time on beating lower skilled players so I got out of plat", nothing more.

And I spend the entire post explaining that his relative skill is shit (which is a fact, not elitism), actually making him the hipocrite and a bully.
If I were to say that a bum is poor, would I be elitist too?
If I were to ask a school bully to pick somebody his size or bigger instead of beating up elementary school kids, would I be elitist too?

tl;dr: I'm ranting against OP downtalking on lower leaguers while being in plat, not for being in plat.

On April 15 2012 04:04 pedostare wrote:
I can't believe you people are seriously applauding this guy for being a tremendous jerk to newer players. This post oozes elitism, and is really quite pathetic. So few people, especially newer players, learn from making a mistake once. If that were true we'd all only need to play a few games to get out of bronze. There's a reason most all of us have to play many many games before we are any better. If it were that easy OP would be GM by now and wouldn't have to harass lower tier players in order to get his jollies. Knowledge takes time and effort to obtain, and it's silly to over simplify playing ladder to harassing your dog. It's actually a pretty terrible analogy if we're being honest. Ignoring the fact that the OP is dehumanizing players, he also fails to see that the bronze players are behaving appropriately to the situation. Like the dog, most of these bronzes he toys with are smart enough to realize he's being a dick and leave/ ignore him. What the OP expects the bronze players to do would be the equivalent of his dog biting the ball hand so he doesn't try that BS again.

This is so infuriating. OP Is not doing this for the betterment of other players. OP is, as you are all very much aware, doing this to mock them; he is appealing to that disgusting unmerited sense of entitlement and elitism that's ruining the sc2 community. There are much nicer and less insulting means of helping bronze players improve, and none of them include posting screen shots to humiliate them/ compare their intelligence levels to that of dogs. If you're really interested in helping people get better, take a page from Day9. Look at what he's doing, and then take a very good look at yourself. Day9 has made himself very successful by providing non-insulting and friendly criticisms to everyone who needs it, and he has stepped over zero people to do so.

There is practically a new thread on BNET forums and here every day about sc2 losing relevance and it's player base declining, yet you guys are here supporting the mistreatment of newer players for 12+ pages. Have you considered that maybe this is why? Maybe it's not because of the game. Maybe less people are interested in playing this game because it's community is full of people who treat them like sub-human beings because they aren't good enough at a video game. I am thoroughly disappointed in you guys; I expected a lot more maturity from this place. I sincerely hope you guys do some growing up and realize how unacceptable behavior like this is. At the end of the day, those are real people you're writing off. Those are real people you're calling dumber than dogs and jerking to each other about. How about we try and have a little empathy here and imagine how terrible it must be to see a ss of yourself in one of these topics.

On April 15 2012 05:29 pedostare wrote:
Honk honk it's still elitist drivel. Adding the caveat of "I'm not trying to be mean; I am not a mean person" after a wall of text full of mean doesn't make the post magically not mean or disrespectful. It's a post centered around someone poking fun at people who are not interested in his unsolicited advice and rightfully getting upset when he forces it on them.

And speaking of people not learning after repeatedly making the same mistake over and over, you'd think the OP'd have learned by now that his teaching methods are horrendous and ineffective.