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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
March 10 2012 01:16 GMT
#41
5/5

I completely understand the way you see bronze leaguers. Just like my friend who's played literally 5+ hours per day for the past 4 weeks, is still horrible. Staying on 1 base, floating over 1-2k min/gas, building like 5 stargates (and trying to fund it via 1 base btw) for void rays, cannons around his whole base border. Gets supply blocked for over 4 minutes then realising he needs to build more pylons. It's a real PAIN to watch him play.

I try to tell him what to do and he just says 'oh cbf'.
sup
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
March 10 2012 01:24 GMT
#42
Amazing blog like always, 5/5
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
March 10 2012 01:27 GMT
#43
This, is a 5 star blog. Have all 5 of the stars.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 10 2012 01:30 GMT
#44
On March 10 2012 08:39 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anyone who has ever played fetch with a dog will understand the following truth. If you pretend to throw the ball, but instead quickly hide it behind your back, the dog will faithfully run after the ball you did not actually throw, look for it, and then return, confused. You may repeat this process once or twice before the dog either figures out your trick or gets tired of your shit and goes to the corner to lick himself. After observing my pet and considering his small, but definitive display of intelligence, I came to a startling conclusion: Spaniels are smarter than bronzies. And more flexible.

this actually bothers me quite a bit. i'm not going to go into why it's false, but just say that comparing people to dogs.... yeah, that speaks wonders about you...

Have you ever heard of Pavlov and his experiments? Also, it is a good comparison because those dogs are actually learning better than these people who can't for the life of them figure out how to press a and click on the ground.

5/5 gheed, it's always amusing to see people get mad about your blogs. That CC on the ramp was fucking hilarious.
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
March 10 2012 01:32 GMT
#45
Hmm. I mean it was mildly amusing as always.

You keep using 'retard' as if it is synonymous with 'stupid'. As someone with relatives who are mentally challenged I find this extremely offensive and childish.

In addition, you come off as extremely arrogant and condescending, you can be funny without being mean. Even your screenshots in past blogs have shown YOU being the BMer.

People like you are the reason it is hard to convince friends to jump in and give the game a shot. Stop being a dick to new players. You could be just as funny and a lot nicer.

For sure the last time I read one of these.

I wish I could give negative points for this blog.

0/5
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
March 10 2012 01:36 GMT
#46
Going to go take a shower, then return and read this. Going to be the fastest shower ever.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 01:53:09
March 10 2012 01:52 GMT
#47
Someone once told me that managing programmers is like herding cats, because herding cats is impossible. Cats do whatever the fuck they damn well please. If you try to train a cat to respond to you in some way, the cat will ignore you even if its for its own benefit. Programmers often also do whatever they want even if they are told it's for their own good and this is proven to them.

From your blogs and analysis, it seems like coaching some bronze leaguers is like herding cats. They can watch Day[9] and read Teamliquid and intellectually understand what's going on; they can hear the arguments and pointers on how to improve and what is good, and there's some mental block that makes them refuse to implement it.

It's bizzare.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Invigoration
Profile Joined December 2011
12 Posts
March 10 2012 01:57 GMT
#48
These blogs are so enjoyable to read, Gheed, hope you keep making them. Still laughing at the part about being ambushed out of the smoke with SCVs.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#49
haha
this one's my favorite
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moo...for DRG
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
March 10 2012 02:02 GMT
#50
On March 10 2012 10:32 TemujinGK wrote:
Hmm. I mean it was mildly amusing as always.

You keep using 'retard' as if it is synonymous with 'stupid'. As someone with relatives who are mentally challenged I find this extremely offensive and childish.

In addition, you come off as extremely arrogant and condescending, you can be funny without being mean. Even your screenshots in past blogs have shown YOU being the BMer.

People like you are the reason it is hard to convince friends to jump in and give the game a shot. Stop being a dick to new players. You could be just as funny and a lot nicer.

For sure the last time I read one of these.

I wish I could give negative points for this blog.

0/5


The entire point of this blog, is that he's not just being a dick to new players. These are players with 1600+ games, that after being told exactly what do do, after repeated tries, still cannot beat a worker rush. Noone uses "retard" to describe mentally handicapped people, they use either the general phrase "mentally handicapped," "mentally challenged," or the specific proper name for their specific condition. "Retard" is not in any way meant to slander people who are legitimately mentally handicapped. In slang, it IS actually synonymous with "stupid."

And yes he's being very BM, if he wasn't, it wouldn't be funny. Sometimes being mean is funny.
Fromps
Profile Joined May 2011
United States12 Posts
March 10 2012 02:02 GMT
#51
The more I read these, the more I fear for your sanity. This is like some detective trying to uncover the truth behind the Old Gods from the Sunken City, you'll go mad man!
Sup.
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
March 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#52
On March 10 2012 10:09 architecture wrote:
There's a way to tie a shoelace in one motion.

If i told you hey all you have to do is this one motion, and you will be able to do this, what do you think responses in real life will be like?

Not very different I imagine.

Some people won't care, they don't see why they need to do it.
Some people will be mad that you are showing them something new.
Some people won't be able to do it the first time, even after you show them or tell them it.


It'd be more like, people join a shoe-tying competition with you. They lose to your one motion, then refuse to learn how to do it better even though they are still joining shoe-tying competitions with others...
DeLoReAn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
March 10 2012 02:07 GMT
#53
I would love to get day9's response to your articles!
Dota2 is my escape.
goldenland
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada1 Post
March 10 2012 02:11 GMT
#54
Well written and entertaining post, keep it up Gheed!
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 10 2012 02:21 GMT
#55
Best blog post I've ever read on TL I think. Just fascinating.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
March 10 2012 02:24 GMT
#56
On March 10 2012 11:02 Fromps wrote:
The more I read these, the more I fear for your sanity. This is like some detective trying to uncover the truth behind the Old Gods from the Sunken City, you'll go mad man!

I feel the same way. Your patience with simply worker rushing over and over is amazing...
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
March 10 2012 02:25 GMT
#57
Amazing blog. I have briefly visited bronze and were amazed of the amount of lifting off that terrans do when you walk into their base and start to disassemble it.
I have no idea what you could possibly gain from doing that and it's really annoying to be zerg since you have no mobile units that can shoot air until you get mutas.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
commiekaze
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada31 Posts
March 10 2012 02:28 GMT
#58
Great blog! I would like to mention to those that are unhappy with this that Gheed did say he will not be doing any more of these for a while. Also, it doesnt look like he BMed anyone unless they BMed him. In fact, if you look back at his previous blogs, he would post "instructions" on how to beat the worker rush at the start of each game. He then takes time to talk to them, try to teach them how to beat it and even goes into custom games to show them. Just saying. O_o

I would say the MMa vs Gheed comparison does not work either simply because of the skill difference in an A-move (that he tells you how to do at the start) and the 400 APM madness that a top tier pro shows. But I can see how this wouldnt be popular with everyone. Hopefully he writes something else if not these blogs.
It's Best, Bro.
KSKaleido
Profile Joined December 2011
United States16 Posts
March 10 2012 02:36 GMT
#59
Someone should do a case study on the people that come to Teamliquid and rage about these blogs.. .the only fathomable possibility is they are bronze themselves and lose to worker rushes, but don't manage to read far enough into the blog where it -clearly- explains how to defeat the "strategy"...

How is it possible you're even on this site if you don't understand the point he's making?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
March 10 2012 02:37 GMT
#60
Maybe a lot of bronze league players are young perhaps? When asked they say 17 but they are really 12 or something.

Enjoyed this way too much as always. The cc ramp block was pretty uber gosu.
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