EPT3 Bullies vs Mini Atom - Page 2
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
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TOCHMY
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Game
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On March 05 2012 17:00 Otolia wrote: I'm shocked that you could think that way and I stopped reading after that. Bullying is a problem in every society not just Korea. And just because some korean social factors influence the likeliness of suicide, it doesn't mean it isn't an problem elsewhere. Very insensitive from you. Though because it has become a personal issue from you, so that may explain why you feel it touches you the most. If you actually read the sentence it says SOME other parts of the world, not ALL other parts of the world. Very inerudite from you. Please learn some reading comprehension before acting in such a sour way to someone so awesome just trying to share a story. I've always loved your blogs sir, this one included. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On March 05 2012 18:37 TOCHMY wrote: Well, Silver, isn't South Korea the country in the world with most suicides per population capita? It's second. :O And I thought it was mainly school students committing suicides. Wether it's because of bullying, harsh school years or any other reason i really dunno but to say that bringing suicide into the OP is ridicolous may in fact be, ridicolous It's well known that the reason for South Korea's high rate is the enormous amount of pressure they put upon students to perform well academically. That's why there's a huge spike in suicides around the time that their high school students must take their most important test. To act as if there's any connection between that and a couple of children not wanting to play with younger children is, yes, quite ridiculous. This response actually brings up an interesting issue and that is people conflating instances of bullying that couldn't be less similar. With the massive amount of attention bullying is getting right now coupled with the obsessive involvement of certain parents(exemplified by the OP) people now have the tendency to overreact to what is utterly harmless behavior. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On March 05 2012 18:59 Silvertine wrote: It's second. It's well known that the reason for South Korea's high rate is the enormous amount of pressure they put upon students to perform well academically. That's why there's a huge spike in suicides around the time that their high school students must take their most important test. To act as if there's any connection between that and a couple of children not wanting to play with younger children is, yes, quite ridiculous. This response actually brings up an interesting issue and that is people conflating instances of bullying that couldn't be less similar. With the massive amount of attention bullying is getting right now coupled with the obsessive involvement of certain parents(exemplified by the OP) people now have the tendency to overreact to what is utterly harmless behavior. "Not wanting to play" = pushing the kid around. What you said about the suicide match the stuff I've heard so.. Nevertheless, Atom handled the situation well IMO. Thumbs up for stepping in, Atom :D | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
Most people (and I'm assuming most people who are 'against' you in this blog think like this) either tend to avoid the siltation by moving their child to another school/section or 'confront' the bully with physical force. Now, I was raised up by post-WW1-2 parents/grand parents, and they always believed in 'an eye for an eye'. However, I only slightly believe in it. As they were kids, your way was perfect. Instead of directly telling them to stop, among other things; or follow your wife's advice advice and leave, you left a little bit of you with those three kids and I assume they took something from it too. Nice read mate. Edit: I was never bullied, but having gone to Japanese schools nearly all my life, I know fairly well the devastation that can happen to the victim. Unfortunately I took many wrong actions in trying to help this 'victim' in helping her get past her hurdles and depression - and even confronting her bullies (who were mainly males... which ended up in a fight -_-). | ||
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sharky246
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@mightyatom Just out of curiousity, why did you decide to settle down in korea, instead of america ( where you grew up in)? I mean, relatively, its an awful place to live in. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 05 2012 19:46 sharky246 wrote: The suicide stuff is due to the immense pressure that high school students have regarding success in academics. @mightyatom Just out of curiousity, why did you decide to settle down in korea, instead of america ( where you grew up in)? I mean, relatively, its an awful place to live in. Hey guys, even if I don't respond to all the posts, thanks for each post - regardless positive or otherwise ^^ But again, this was about parenting/bullying and the point about the suicide was more about the severity of the issue, again rather than bullying being the main cause etc. But any cause towards suicide, prime factor or not isn't good. But to answer sharky246 question, and please take this in the best way because it is simply the reality of my own situation; in Korea I have a relatively good background both in the traditional and modern sense, so for me, a lot of the difficulties in living in Korea do not really apply, in fact, the opposite is true. Most overseas Koreans who do integrate into regular Korean society (outside of teaching English and working at an actual Korean company) can only 'live' here a maximum of one year, because it is so difficult and the quality of live sucks compared to back in America. And I would say, nowadays, most Koreans would like to have their children educated overseas. For me, when I'm in Korea, and I'm drinking or eating or with my in-laws or relatives, I simply am happy and comfortable. Because I feel as though, when I speak or do something, my actions are fully understood completely- it is this 'like mindedness' and vise virsa and I completely understand others. There is one very peculiar understanding that I have that I think makes this work for me, is that I know I'm not Korean in the South Korea sense of the word, or in the Overseas Korean Kyopo sense of the word, but I'm also not Korean in the North Korean sense of the word but neither is a South Korean a Korean in the North Korean sense of the word (still following lol?), but I am simply Korean. And what the essence of what that means to simply know myself as 'Korean', to me is extremely specific to my family background - and so within this microcosm of South Korean society where I am accepted because I express the 'traits' my family background - I just feel as though I am where I am meant to be. Needless to say, very difficult to explain, but I tried ^^ | ||
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Sickkiee
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
Thanks for sharing, MA! | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
Reminds me of my Dad in grade school. Keep at it MightyAtom! | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
That being said I understand where Otilia's reaction comes from. Without context (i.e having read some of your previous blogs) I would have read it the same way too. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
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craaaaack
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
I like your view on the issue.. this is what life is about, they will probably never forget you and someday look back at what you were trying to show them... and sometimes that's what a teacher has to accept about what he teaches to any student...when the student is ready, the teacher appears, whether that's physical or in memory :D | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 05 2012 20:55 Sickkiee wrote: It's fine I know I'm unimportant. ^^ you are lol, I wrote thanks for the comments keke | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On March 05 2012 23:03 MightyAtom wrote: ^^ you are lol, I wrote thanks for the comments keke Yesss! ♥ | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 05 2012 23:08 sc4k wrote: You derive quite a lot of ego satisfaction from being able to throw your weight around 3 sub 10 year olds lol. I was expected your kid to somehow have managed to vanquished the big kids on his own. The blog should be entitled 'full grown man on behalf of his toddler vs 3 tiny kids' though I admit it has less snap :/ . Congrats on your atomic parenting, at least your child knows now that he can come to you if he has problems, which is a good thing I guess. Well it is church, and if he did kick the crap out of 3 kids 3 times his age, and was justified, well I think I'd be proud, but at 3.5 years, I won't hold him to that expectation yet. lol. | ||
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