Hi, I made a thread on netwars.pl about taking drugs and I met with a lot of hatred so I'm curious about what would be your reaction to someone interested in taking drugs or stuff from smart shops?
Poll: If someone said he wants to take drugs I would...
I wouldn't care (44)
44%
Discourage him from taking drugs but keep it civil (40)
40%
I would encourage him to take drugs (8)
8%
Ridicule and hate him (4)
4%
Call him crazy (3)
3%
99 total votes
Your vote: If someone said he wants to take drugs I would...
(Vote): Ridicule and hate him (Vote): Call him crazy (Vote): Discourage him from taking drugs but keep it civil (Vote): I wouldn't care (Vote): I would encourage him to take drugs
I would really like to stimulate myself with something and I met with opinion not to buy anything from smart shops (because after effects can be painful and last long) and just take normal meth if I can. The biggest problem is a lost telephone numbers to people who would get me in contact with dealers.
your Life Plan is to acquire "normal meth" because you are "interesting in taking drugs". i don't think it needs to be explained but becoming a methhead overnight will not increase your net worth or your happiness levels.
your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
On March 03 2012 08:21 Jedclark wrote: Who encourages someone to take drugs, apart from people who are a bit twisted in the head?
Kids, don't do drugs - stay in school.
a dealer encourages people to take drugs, more to sell
that said, if you want to go ahead just know the risks of the actions taken ideally you would be able to make a sane decision based on knowledge of what you're taking...ironically most illegal drugs (excluding heroin/cocaine/meth) are nowhere near as bad for you as a lot of pharmaceutical drugs can be
"side effects: blindness, death, paralysis, etc, etc" you can find something along those lines on a LOT of legal pharmaceutical drugs
moral of the story: just know what you're taking and decide if it's worth it, if it is go for it if not stay away it's really up to the person to decide
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
On March 03 2012 08:21 Jedclark wrote: Who encourages someone to take drugs, apart from people who are a bit twisted in the head?
Kids, don't do drugs - stay in school.
a dealer encourages people to take drugs, more to sell
that said, if you want to go ahead just know the risks of the actions taken ideally you would be able to make a sane decision based on knowledge of what you're taking...ironically most illegal drugs (excluding heroin/cocaine/meth) are nowhere near as bad for you as a lot of pharmaceutical drugs can be
"side effects: blindness, death, paralysis, etc, etc" you can find something along those lines on a LOT of legal pharmaceutical drugs
moral of the story: just know what you're taking and decide if it's worth it, if it is go for it if not stay away it's really up to the person to decide
And that's the attitude I like the most, thank you. I'm not looking for getting my life broken and painful, I'm just loooking for occasional fun. I am aware of the threats and I'm not going to go overboard with taking anything.
wtf. when you said drugs I thought you were talking about weed, not Meth. You see, you shouldnt do meth, because, its bad. mmkay? it rots your brain, mmkay? Just smoke weed like the rest of us you fuckin nutjob.
lol at "normal meth"
If im reading this right, you have no prior experience with drugs and you are considering taking methamphetamine. Please let me discourage you from such an endeavor because it is fucking stupid.
On March 03 2012 08:21 Jedclark wrote: Who encourages someone to take drugs, apart from people who are a bit twisted in the head?
Kids, don't do drugs - stay in school.
a dealer encourages people to take drugs, more to sell
that said, if you want to go ahead just know the risks of the actions taken ideally you would be able to make a sane decision based on knowledge of what you're taking...ironically most illegal drugs (excluding heroin/cocaine/meth) are nowhere near as bad for you as a lot of pharmaceutical drugs can be
"side effects: blindness, death, paralysis, etc, etc" you can find something along those lines on a LOT of legal pharmaceutical drugs
moral of the story: just know what you're taking and decide if it's worth it, if it is go for it if not stay away it's really up to the person to decide
And that's the attitude I like the most, thank you. I'm not looking for getting my life broken and painful, I'm just loooking for occasional fun. I am aware of the threats and I'm not going to go overboard with taking anything.
well my attitude is mostly "if you want to fuck up your life go ahead i'm not going to stop you" however i do disagree with taking some drugs (meth being one of those) really though if what you want is just a high weed works just fine and has none of the horrible side effects that meth has...ofc it is your life so go ahead if you really want to do it...but don't take meth lightly that shit can and will fuck up your life if you let it
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
i am only discouraging you because you sound uninformed and might hurt yourself in the pursuit of a little relief. meth specifically is such a horrible choice of drug - you could have picked cannabis (highly recommended), shrooms, LSD or MDMA, all of which have far tamer side effects and still are really fucking fun. just at least read the wikipedia article of the substance you want to try.
remember the philip dick quote about all his dead friends who used to use crystal meth: they were "people who were punished entirely too much for what they did."
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
You seem to think drug use is the only way to get more energy and to get away from the slow pace of your life but whatever, it's your life, just don't hurt anybody to fund your next score.
On the more general topic I think recreational drug use is fine if people want to do that on a night out instead of drinking for example, but to use drugs for general everyday life problems that everyone has is pointless. Nothing will change.
But at the end of the day people can do whatever the fuck they wanna do.
On March 03 2012 08:21 Jedclark wrote: Who encourages someone to take drugs, apart from people who are a bit twisted in the head?
Kids, don't do drugs - stay in school.
a dealer encourages people to take drugs, more to sell
that said, if you want to go ahead just know the risks of the actions taken ideally you would be able to make a sane decision based on knowledge of what you're taking...ironically most illegal drugs (excluding heroin/cocaine/meth) are nowhere near as bad for you as a lot of pharmaceutical drugs can be
"side effects: blindness, death, paralysis, etc, etc" you can find something along those lines on a LOT of legal pharmaceutical drugs
moral of the story: just know what you're taking and decide if it's worth it, if it is go for it if not stay away it's really up to the person to decide
And that's the attitude I like the most, thank you. I'm not looking for getting my life broken and painful, I'm just loooking for occasional fun. I am aware of the threats and I'm not going to go overboard with taking anything.
well my attitude is mostly "if you want to fuck up your life go ahead i'm not going to stop you" however i do disagree with taking some drugs (meth being one of those) really though if what you want is just a high weed works just fine and has none of the horrible side effects that meth has...ofc it is your life so go ahead if you really want to do it...but don't take meth lightly that shit can and will fuck up your life if you let it
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
i am only discouraging you because you sound uninformed and might hurt yourself in the pursuit of a little relief. meth specifically is such a horrible choice of drug - you could have picked cannabis (highly recommended), shrooms, LSD or MDMA, all of which have far tamer side effects and still are really fucking fun. just at least read the wikipedia article of the substance you want to try.
remember the philip dick quote about all his dead friends who used to use crystal meth: they were "people who were punished entirely too much for what they did."
What is MDMA? Cannabis has nearly the same effect on me as beer and that's why I don't smoke it. For similar reason I'm not going to try LSD... maybe once if get in touch with someone who has it but otherwise alcohol is enough. Thank you for worrying about me
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
You seem to think drug use is the only way to get more energy and to get away from the slow pace of your life but whatever, it's your life, just don't hurt anybody to fund your next score.
I'm going to have enough money not to hurt anyone else.
n the more general topic I think recreational drug use is fine if people want to do that on a night out instead of drinking for example, but to use drugs for general everyday life problems that everyone has is pointless. Nothing will change.
But at the end of the day people can do whatever the fuck they wanna do.
I'm not really going to fix my life with drugs... it's enough if I sleep well and eat enough food and I feel ok. It's like you said, I want to do this from time to time instead of drinking.
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants
OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into
to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance
Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider.
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants
OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into
to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance
On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider.
Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider.
On March 03 2012 09:02 johnnywup wrote: Go watch requiem for a dream, OP.
I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
On March 03 2012 08:35 TylerThaCreator wrote: "Drugs" is far too general a term. if someone told me they wanted to try weed, then by all means im for it. but if they said meth I'd say no.
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants
OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into
to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance
On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider.
Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider.
On March 03 2012 09:02 johnnywup wrote: Go watch requiem for a dream, OP.
I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
Well Meth is Illegal. And it doesn't start off as an addiction, but meth is VERY addictive and can go to your body being reliant on it VERY quickly. So stay away from it, unless you want your life to go down the drain. One doesn't simply go back from taking meth. So stop while you can.
On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote: And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
How many people do you think say that and follow through with it, relative to the amount of people that fail to get away? I just see this as a more deadly equivalent to a "i know i'm naturally talented so I can definitely go pro at SC2" blog, where instead of caving after a week you can't cave for the rest of your life.
First of all, you sound pretty uninformed if you want to take "drugs" but don't know what MDMA is and think that LSD will have mild alcoholic-like effects on you.
Go to a website called "The Shroomery" and educate yourself before you jump into anything. It's one of the best communities out there. As for your question, I would encourage people who want to try certain drugs - weed, salvia, LSD, LSA, if they're prepared and have no history of schyzophrenia in their family. I would discourage or cut ties with people who try opiates or meth. There's simply no reason to use them, unless you're a rockstar and you're planning on ODing at 40, or that you're prepared to become human trash.
Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
Edit : are you serious? "Not gonna get THAT addicted"? Do you know that taking heroin twice in a month is enough to have you hooked for life? Just smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday for a week and you'll see what addiction is.
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants
OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into
to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance
On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider.
Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider.
On March 03 2012 09:02 johnnywup wrote: Go watch requiem for a dream, OP.
I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
Well Meth is Illegal. And it doesn't start off as an addiction, but meth is VERY addictive and can go to your body being reliant on it VERY quickly. So stay away from it, unless you want your life to go down the drain. One doesn't simply go back from taking meth. So stop while you can.
On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote: And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
How many people do you think say that and follow through with it, relative to the amount of people that fail to get away? I just see this as a more deadly equivalent to a "i know i'm naturally talented so I can definitely go pro at SC2" blog, where instead of caving after a week you can't cave for the rest of your life.
On March 03 2012 09:20 A3iL3r0n wrote: Dude, meth is disgusting. Don't fucking take it.
On March 03 2012 09:39 Kojak21 wrote: did u just say ur not gunna get that much addicted? u sound so naive. you dont choose how addicted u get. smarten up
Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it. Maybe it really would be hard to go back from taking it. TBH I wouldn't ever consider it if coffee would work on me as it used to - I could get kinda high on coffee (feeling euphoria, being more communicative / talkative, full of energy and doing things with speed) and that's the exact effect I desire, nothing more. Now I drink 3 super strong coffees and nothing happens, I can even go to sleep after 1. Well fuck, now I have to sound naive. The kid got used to get high on coffee so he wants meth lol HAHAHAHA. Oh Jesus.
On March 03 2012 10:01 Kukaracha wrote: First of all, you sound pretty uninformed if you want to take "drugs" but don't know what MDMA is and think that LSD will have mild alcoholic-like effects on you.
Go to a website called "The Shroomery" and educate yourself before you jump into anything. It's one of the best communities out there. As for your question, I would encourage people who want to try certain drugs - weed, salvia, LSD, LSA, if they're prepared and have no history of schyzophrenia in their family. I would discourage or cut ties with people who try opiates or meth. There's simply no reason to use them, unless you're a rockstar and you're planning on ODing at 40, or that you're prepared to become human trash.
Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
Edit : are you serious? "Not gonna get THAT addicted"? Do you know that taking heroin twice in a month is enough to have you hooked for life? Just smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday for a week and you'll see what addiction is.
I didn't write anywhere that I want to take drugs in general, I asked how you see people that want to do that. I also didn't write that LSD has the same effect as alcohol (LOL), I just wrote that alcohol is enough for me so I'm not gonna really look for more. Thanks for "The Shroomery", I will look into it. I'm not considering heroin and I am already smoking so I know what addiction is and how hard it is to get rid of it.
Taking hard drugs is always a bad idea, stick to pot and/or shrooms.
Taking drugs in general to solve discontent in life is the sign that there is a larger problem. Drugs are a short term solution, when you come down, whatever problem there was is still going to be there. Although it's always easier said than done, everyone on the internet has the answers, etc. etc. maybe take a look at your life, and figure out where this is coming from.
Highly recommend exercise. It makes you feel so good, and it has a shit ton of health benefits. If you need adrenaline, maybe start rock climbing, bungee jumping, skydiving etc.
I have smoked meth (Was addicted for about a year) when I was younger/stupid. you will start to develope cravings/withdrawls after using it maybe 5-10 times (and without any warning). The amount of "good feeling" you get from using it is completely and totally not worth it when you start to feel incredibly sick (nasuea headaches body cramps) and depressed ( suicidal and zero motivation ) AT ALL TIMES you are not taking it. Basically you trade 10-15 minutes of feeling good for extreme misery ANYTIME you are NOT on it. completely not worth it. And anytime you cant get ahold of it is pretty much the most darkest/miserable feelings in the world for you. Your life will soon start to feel like its not even worth living unless you are on meth. its a bad bad way to go. Please do not try it. its not even much of a good feeling drug compared to other drugs like crack xtc coke heroin etc.
Try acid or shrooms or mesciline(hardcore trips) if you must experiment with more hardcore drugs. And make sure you research it ALOT before you try them and always use them with a designated sober "watcher" around you.
I really hope you dont try meth. I cant stress enough how much you WILL regret it.
On March 03 2012 10:01 Kukaracha wrote: Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
On March 03 2012 10:27 A3iL3r0n wrote: Taking hard drugs is always a bad idea, stick to pot and/or shrooms.
Taking drugs in general to solve discontent in life is the sign that there is a larger problem. Drugs are a short term solution, when you come down, whatever problem there was is still going to be there. Although it's always easier said than done, everyone on the internet has the answers, etc. etc. maybe take a look at your life, and figure out where this is coming from.
Highly recommend exercise. It makes you feel so good, and it has a shit ton of health benefits. If you need adrenaline, maybe start rock climbing, bungee jumping, skydiving etc.
Yeah I really should start exercising. Maybe all of my problems come to it. You made me start wondering what is wrong with that I want to take meth. It's really that I crave for stimulation, maybe I need some sport like you said...
On March 03 2012 10:34 Coagulation wrote: I have smoked meth (Was addicted for about a year) when I was younger/stupid. you will start to develope cravings/withdrawls after using it maybe 5-10 times (and without any warning). The amount of "good feeling" you get from using it is completely and totally not worth it when you start to feel incredibly sick (nasuea headaches body cramps) and depressed ( suicidal and zero motivation ) AT ALL TIMES you are not taking it. Basically you trade 10-15 minutes of feeling good for extreme misery ANYTIME you are NOT on it. completely not worth it. And anytime you cant get ahold of it is pretty much the most darkest/miserable feelings in the world for you. Your life will soon start to feel like its not even worth living unless you are on meth. its a bad bad way to go. Please do not try it. its not even much of a good feeling drug compared to other drugs like crack xtc coke heroin etc.
Try acid or shrooms or mesciline(hardcore trips) if you must experiment with more hardcore drugs. And make sure you research it ALOT before you try them and always use them with a designated sober "watcher" around you.
I really hope you dont try meth. I cant stress enough how much you WILL regret it.
It's good to have insight from someone who was taking it thanks for posting!
On March 03 2012 10:09 beetlelisk wrote: Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it.
So you say you wouldn't get addicted to it, then you say you crave it DESPITE NEVER HAVING TAKEN IT BEFORE? Dude listen to yourself, based on what you just said do you really believe that you can withstand cravings on the level of meth? If you can't handle feeling depressed without the high you used to get from COFFEE, the depression you will feel in between taking hits of meth will be a million times worse. I don't have a problem with people doing weed or any soft core drugs of that caliber, but don't for the love of God try meth. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Meth is one of the most destructive drugs out there, I have never heard of ANYONE simply walk away from it unscathed. There is always some aftereffect, whether it be ruined relationships with friends/family, bankruptcy, extremely serious health issues, or jail time. You will always have regrets. My cousin did meth and is now homeless/living off welfare, my whole family has shunned him, and is living in hospitals. Do not throw your life away just for seeking a cheap high.
If you desperately want to feel high, I would recommend doing it naturally. Try sky-diving, base-jumping or some other extreme sport. If you are going to throw your life away, make sure it's doing something awesome and exhilarating like that, not shivering in your bathtub, undergoing withdrawals. Seriously, people have found meaning in life doing that, people who were depressed, suicidal, or drug addicts, they say it really adds new meaning to their life.
Edit: Damn, it appears someone beat me to my suggestion I listed above. Oh well, I guess it serves to re-emphasize my [our?] point.
On March 03 2012 10:09 beetlelisk wrote: Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it.
So you say you wouldn't get addicted to it, then you say you crave it DESPITE NEVER HAVING TAKEN IT BEFORE? Dude listen to yourself, based on what you just said do you really believe that you can withstand cravings on the level of meth? If you can't handle feeling depressed without the high you used to get from COFFEE, the depression you will feel in between taking hits of meth will be a million times worse. I don't have a problem with people doing weed or any soft core drugs of that caliber, but don't for the love of God try meth. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Meth is one of the most destructive drugs out there, I have never heard of ANYONE simply walk away from it unscathed. There is always some aftereffect, whether it be ruined relationships with friends/family, bankruptcy, extremely serious health issues, or jail time. You will always have regrets. My cousin did meth and is now homeless/living off welfare, my whole family has shunned him, and is living in hospitals. Do not throw your life away just for seeking a cheap high.
If you desperately want to feel high, I would recommend doing it naturally. Try sky-diving, base-jumping or some other extreme sport. If you are going to throw your life away, make sure it's doing something awesome and exhilarating like that, not shivering in your bathtub, undergoing withdrawals. Seriously, people have found meaning in life doing that, people who were depressed, suicidal, or drug addicts, they say it really adds new meaning to their life.
Edit: Damn, it appears someone beat me to my suggestion I listed above. Oh well, I guess it serves to re-emphasize my [our?] point.
I'm not feeling depressed without the high I used to get from coffee, I just miss it. I guess I really need some extreme sport.
The most important thing is to educate yourself. The second most important thing is remember that almost everything in this world is better in MODERATION.
One more thing don't ever start doing drugs. It's gonna start like this you will feel great and then afterward you will be left feeling more miserable than you've ever been. That's the addiction and drugs like meth are drugs that make you feel great when everything is terrible. Like others have said find something else to stimulate you. I've done drugs and that feeling from it is just a feeling nothing more. I've never met anyone who said man I'm glad I started doing drugs they really changed my life. It's always they really fucked me up and messed me up in a million ways.
fequent meth user here. Since the A.F.P (Australian Federal Pigs) started banning the import of precursors to MDMA, the quality of pills have gone to shit. So basically here in melbourne everyones swapped over to shards, and its fucking shite, serisouly. Everyone i know who does it has changed so much. Try it once or twice, its not gonna kill u. But seriously, no more than that.
Guess the A.F.P would rather prefer a bunch of methed up clubbers in the city, starting fights on every little occasion, than people running around hugging eachother on MD. (Its funny, cause since MDMA has left melbourne (its slowly coming back), the city has go so much more violent on thursdays-sunday nights, the media blames it on alcohol and on my generation saying we're all thugs and we need to install some kind of totaliterian police force)
On March 03 2012 11:25 Arthemesia wrote: One more thing don't ever start doing drugs. It's gonna start like this you will feel great and then afterward you will be left feeling more miserable than you've ever been. That's the addiction and drugs like meth are drugs that make you feel great when everything is terrible. Like others have said find something else to stimulate you. I've done drugs and that feeling from it is just a feeling nothing more. I've never met anyone who said man I'm glad I started doing drugs they really changed my life. It's always they really fucked me up and messed me up in a million ways.
Exactly. there is not a single (hardcore)drug user in the world that is happy they started to use drugs. And EVERY single one of them started taking them with the mindset of "I wont get addicted"
No... please don't. They nicknamed meth "shit" for a reason. It comes from garbage underneath your kitchen sink. Its dirt cheap and it burns like hell if you snort it. I had a twacked out ex-friends get some for free at mcdonalds. at least cocaine is powdery and soft
If you want to ride a rollercoaster, find a genuine Peruvian shaman and try ayahuasca (dmt drink). It isn't recreational by any means... its spiritual and should be treated that way. Its essentially the life and death trip of the human ego and will alter your perception of reality forever.
TBH, I will never do substances for recreation again. Spiritual purposes only. Cannabis as well is completely underrated as a substance because people over do it. I used to smoke dope all day and night in my closet while praying to Lord Shiva. It was a time and money sink and didn't do anything new. My tolerance was through the roof. I was skeptical at first but listen to McKenna talk about how he uses cannabis
3-4 times a month. Keep your tolerance low. get the most potent shit you can find. find a dark place... alone... in a shamanic style... then get possessed by Lord Shiva
really depends. If he wanted to smoke weed or do psychadelics I'd be all for it, but of course tell him to be responsible. However, if he told me he wanted to do some coke or heroin or meth I might tell him to do some serious research before he does that and tell him that I hopes he doesn't, because that's fucking retarded.
It's moderately ok to do weed, alchohol or similar low level drugs, but preferably you should deal with your issues head on, unless, of course, you take those low level drugs to party. If you take those low-level drugs to party, then, well, it's a pastime that doesn't significantly screw your life over, unless you overdo it. Taking meth, which is one of the most addictive and harmful drugs out there is akin to screaming from the rooftops that you have an IQ of below 70 and wish to fuck your life over. (also, lol at "normal" meth) Typically, I am sort of against alchohol, weed and other low-level stuff but don't really dislike others doing it that much, am pretty against medium-level stuff like nonaddictive hallucinogens as I feel there are better, safer things that acheive the same goals that you would have when taking them and am totally against high-level, fuck-my-life-in-the-ass shit like meth. Also, if a certain drug is illegal in your country, don't touch it, regardless of what anyone says here. The law doesn't care about morality or anything like that and I'm sure that spending a few months to a few years depending on what shit a drug user touched is not going to be fun, or help with whatever issues said drug user may possess.
On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote: And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
Dear god. When you say that you're not going to get addicted to meth, that is actually proving that you will get extremely addicted and then lose everything you hold dear. When you say that, you are proving that you have no idea just what you're getting into. If you want to understand what a fraction of what a meth addiction is like, go get addicted to smoking. That way, you can live a moderately long and fulfilling life before you die of lung cancer or some regular cause, as opposed to dying young and miserable.
How ignorant can you possibly get. Seriously. I don't even understand why one would even think about taking hard-drugs. Weed, alcohol, etc., I can understand. But meth? METH? Do you know what you're getting into? Saying you're not going to get that addicted? Do you even know how addiction works? You're going to fuck your life up before you even know it, and full recovery is nearly impossible. Not only will it fuck up your physical health, but also your mental health (emotionally scarred, looked down upon by society, etc.).
I can't even believe this is even being asked... What the actual fuck. Please do not take meth, or any drugs for that matter, because it seems that you obviously cannot or will not be able to handle any addiction of any kind with an attitude like that.
If you're really feeling tired and out of it all the time why don't you go to the doctor and get a prescription for ADD drugs. That way they are at least quality controlled, and you can take the correct dosage and not OD. You might even get Meth, since it's a legal prescription drug prescribed under the brand name Desoxyn.
Maybe the weed you've smoked wasn't very good; the effects of weed are usually noticeably different from those of alcohol. Different strains of weed can potentially make you feel very different.
Drugs are great, but of course it depends on the drug.
Here are my drug experiences and recommendations: + Show Spoiler +
Ecstasy is pretty great if you get the right pills. It will fry your brain, but doing it in moderation (maybe two times or less a year) won't do very much. Honestly, I had one of the best times of my life on E. It is pure happiness and by far the best feel good drug. I highly recommend trying it once (or a second time if you don't get good pills, you'll know if you get good ones.) The only bad thing about it is the come down. Personally I have never experienced this my friends who I did it with apparently got depressed after which is not uncommon because you have no more serotonin. Ecstasy I would say is one of the easiest to get sucked into, just because it is so much fun and is highly addictive so be careful.
Mushrooms are awesome. Each time I've taken them I've had a bad trip (due to stomach aches which is common) during my trip but overall every time has been a ton of fun and I never have regrets. You see a lot of really cool shit and it's a great experience. Make sure you're in a good place though with close friends. Not a good social drug in the slightest.
Cocaine I would not highly recommend. Maybe if you have it from a good source that it's very pure, but most cocaine is cut up and not very much fun. It's not really much more intense than a red bull. Also highly addictive.
Obviously drugs are bad for you and if taken regularly can fuck up your life pretty bad, but I believe that if taken responsibly then they can be a great experience and definitely worth trying.
(Some drugs you just have to stay the fuck away from ie. meth.)
you can't address this with the blanket term 'drugs'.
i voted that i don't care, though really i would advise against anybody taking highly addictive sedatives / stimulants. not all drugs ARE highly addictive, contrary to the image that the media/goverment formulates, but the addictive ones that all the 'horror stories' are focussed around.
at the very least i'd recommend a similar but less dangerous alternative - dextroamphetamine. the main ingredient in pills that manage ADD and commonly used by students to bone up for exams.
edit: one of the most important things is to take a somewhat intellectual approach and do some real research on what you're planning on taking. unbiased information from a variety of sources including personal / academic etc. you want to at least know what you're doing.
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
Ride a bike. Downhill.
Very few things are as immediately alarming and energizing as realizing you are going 40 mph on a two-wheeled hippie death machine.
Drugs should not be used as a crutch to make your life interesting. They can perhaps augment certain aspects of living, but it would be foolish to use them as the means and the end.
Whoa whoa we're talking about meth here? I'm typically very liberal when it comes to recreational drugs, but things like meth and heroine are a completely different story. Have ever personally known a meth addict? Do you think that the typical meth story won't happen to you? Please, don't do it..
On March 03 2012 17:06 KhAmun wrote: Whoa whoa we're talking about meth here? I'm typically very liberal when it comes to recreational drugs, but things like meth and heroine are a completely different story. Have ever personally known a meth addict? Do you think that the typical meth story won't happen to you? Please, don't do it..
The last ten minutes of Requiem For A Dream come to mind...
OK I just bought 90 Guarana tablets for like 6 euro. If it will work like coffee used to then I won't consider meth ever again. If it won't then I'll be something legal from a smart shop.
On March 03 2012 15:16 slam wrote: Drugs are great, but of course it depends on the drug.
Here are my drug experiences and recommendations: + Show Spoiler +
Ecstasy is pretty great if you get the right pills. It will fry your brain, but doing it in moderation (maybe two times or less a year) won't do very much. Honestly, I had one of the best times of my life on E. It is pure happiness and by far the best feel good drug. I highly recommend trying it once (or a second time if you don't get good pills, you'll know if you get good ones.) The only bad thing about it is the come down. Personally I have never experienced this my friends who I did it with apparently got depressed after which is not uncommon because you have no more serotonin. Ecstasy I would say is one of the easiest to get sucked into, just because it is so much fun and is highly addictive so be careful.
Mushrooms are awesome. Each time I've taken them I've had a bad trip (due to stomach aches which is common) during my trip but overall every time has been a ton of fun and I never have regrets. You see a lot of really cool shit and it's a great experience. Make sure you're in a good place though with close friends. Not a good social drug in the slightest.
Cocaine I would not highly recommend. Maybe if you have it from a good source that it's very pure, but most cocaine is cut up and not very much fun. It's not really much more intense than a red bull. Also highly addictive.
Obviously drugs are bad for you and if taken regularly can fuck up your life pretty bad, but I believe that if taken responsibly then they can be a great experience and definitely worth trying.
(Some drugs you just have to stay the fuck away from ie. meth.)
Thank you for recomendations
On March 03 2012 15:25 anycolourfloyd wrote: you can't address this with the blanket term 'drugs'.
i voted that i don't care, though really i would advise against anybody taking highly addictive sedatives / stimulants. not all drugs ARE highly addictive, contrary to the image that the media/goverment formulates, but the addictive ones that all the 'horror stories' are focussed around.
at the very least i'd recommend a similar but less dangerous alternative - dextroamphetamine. the main ingredient in pills that manage ADD and commonly used by students to bone up for exams.
edit: one of the most important things is to take a somewhat intellectual approach and do some real research on what you're planning on taking. unbiased information from a variety of sources including personal / academic etc. you want to at least know what you're doing.
Yeah question is can those pills be bought legally, my biggest problem is I lost telephone numbers to guys that like various substances so even I want to try out some drugs I can't get them currently. And yeah I definitely want to know what am I doing.
On March 03 2012 08:25 intrigue wrote: i don't know what to do with this thread because it's so bad. your Life Plan here to acquire "normal meth". let's read that sentence again. your use of the word "drugs" suggests that you have no idea what you're talking about, and so i don't understand your eagerness. what are you looking for, or what are you looking to get away from?
eh... I'm looking for energy and euphoria, I'm looking to get away from sleepiness and slow pace of my life? I don't know how to name it better. The main purpose of this thread is not to encourage or discourage me from taking drugs but comment on how you perceive someone taking drugs. I guess you would at least strongly discourage anyone from taking them.
Ride a bike. Downhill.
Very few things are as immediately alarming and energizing as realizing you are going 40 mph on a two-wheeled hippie death machine.
Drugs should not be used as a crutch to make your life interesting. They can perhaps augment certain aspects of living, but it would be foolish to use them as the means and the end.
I love to ski, it's similar experience :D maybe I'll try bungee jumping or shit.
On March 03 2012 17:06 KhAmun wrote: Whoa whoa we're talking about meth here? I'm typically very liberal when it comes to recreational drugs, but things like meth and heroine are a completely different story. Have ever personally known a meth addict? Do you think that the typical meth story won't happen to you? Please, don't do it..
Yep, totally agree. I cant speak for other cities around the world but in melbourne, the meth scene starts with the cities night life, and a few months later most of those people are using it frequently. I;ve had first hand experience with this, and have seen a bunch of my mates have totally flipped there life for the worse (One mate took out a 15k loan for a car, spent it all on shard, hes now 15k down, without a car, and nothing to show for it except a meth habit, and he got off light compared to others). Dont get me wrong, its not like 1st time u try it insta-addiction (althought it can be for a SMALLLL percentage of people), but after a while it does get extremely additive. Its extremely hard to support a meth habit in melbourne because of price ($70-$100 a point, $600-$1000 a gram), but from what ive heard its a lot easier for those in other countries to get severly addicted because for the price of a point in melbourne, some can get a gram in those other countries.
But srsly, people are curious and trying meth a few times is not a great idea (but "boys will be boys"), if u are going to try it just go into it realising that it causes problems fast. You will have a honeymoon period where u deny the drug is addictive ect but after a while u realise its fucked. If u go into it with this attitude, you should come out relitavely unscaved (also limit it to going out ONLY, and only get a point or 2, anything more will make u spiral out of control at an exponential rate). We have sort of setup a little support system in my group of close friends, where we all watch out for eacothers frequence of use, and for any behavioural changes, and well all know that it will be met with server consequences. The best advice anyone can give is to be informed in what ur puting into your body, its effects on your body and your behaviour, but sticking to bud, mdma and certain psych's is probably a better idea.
On March 03 2012 17:06 KhAmun wrote: Whoa whoa we're talking about meth here? I'm typically very liberal when it comes to recreational drugs, but things like meth and heroine are a completely different story. Have ever personally known a meth addict? Do you think that the typical meth story won't happen to you? Please, don't do it..
Yep, totally agree. I cant speak for other cities around the world but in melbourne, the meth scene starts with the cities night life, and a few months later most of those people are using it frequently. I;ve had first hand experience with this, and have seen a bunch of my mates have totally flipped there life for the worse (One mate took out a 15k loan for a car, spent it all on shard, hes now 15k down, without a car, and nothing to show for it except a meth habit, and he got off light compared to others). Dont get me wrong, its not like 1st time u try it insta-addiction (althought it can be for a SMALLLL percentage of people), but after a while it does get extremely additive. Its extremely hard to support a meth habit in melbourne because of price ($70-$100 a point, $600-$1000 a gram), but from what ive heard its a lot easier for those in other countries to get severly addicted because for the price of a point in melbourne, some can get a gram in those other countries.
But srsly, people are curious and trying meth a few times is not a great idea (but "boys will be boys"), if u are going to try it just go into it realising that it causes problems fast. You will have a honeymoon period where u deny the drug is addictive ect but after a while u realise its fucked. If u go into it with this attitude, you should come out relitavely unscaved (also limit it to going out ONLY, and only get a point or 2, anything more will make u spiral out of control at an exponential rate). We have sort of setup a little support system in my group of close friends, where we all watch out for eacothers frequence of use, and for any behavioural changes, and well all know that it will be met with server consequences. The best advice anyone can give is to be informed in what ur puting into your body, its effects on your body and your behaviour, but sticking to bud, mdma and certain psych's is probably a better idea.
BE SAFFEEEE
Damn, shit is expensive in Melbourne. I wish you more MDMA :D
On March 03 2012 17:06 KhAmun wrote: Whoa whoa we're talking about meth here? I'm typically very liberal when it comes to recreational drugs, but things like meth and heroine are a completely different story. Have ever personally known a meth addict? Do you think that the typical meth story won't happen to you? Please, don't do it..
Yep, totally agree. I cant speak for other cities around the world but in melbourne, the meth scene starts with the cities night life, and a few months later most of those people are using it frequently. I;ve had first hand experience with this, and have seen a bunch of my mates have totally flipped there life for the worse (One mate took out a 15k loan for a car, spent it all on shard, hes now 15k down, without a car, and nothing to show for it except a meth habit, and he got off light compared to others). Dont get me wrong, its not like 1st time u try it insta-addiction (althought it can be for a SMALLLL percentage of people), but after a while it does get extremely additive. Its extremely hard to support a meth habit in melbourne because of price ($70-$100 a point, $600-$1000 a gram), but from what ive heard its a lot easier for those in other countries to get severly addicted because for the price of a point in melbourne, some can get a gram in those other countries.
But srsly, people are curious and trying meth a few times is not a great idea (but "boys will be boys"), if u are going to try it just go into it realising that it causes problems fast. You will have a honeymoon period where u deny the drug is addictive ect but after a while u realise its fucked. If u go into it with this attitude, you should come out relitavely unscaved (also limit it to going out ONLY, and only get a point or 2, anything more will make u spiral out of control at an exponential rate). We have sort of setup a little support system in my group of close friends, where we all watch out for eacothers frequence of use, and for any behavioural changes, and well all know that it will be met with server consequences. The best advice anyone can give is to be informed in what ur puting into your body, its effects on your body and your behaviour, but sticking to bud, mdma and certain psych's is probably a better idea.
BE SAFFEEEE
Damn, shit is expensive in Melbourne. I wish you more MDMA :D
Yeah man customs are pretty ontop of things, so it tends to inflate prices alot (pills go for around 25-30 each fyi which is relatively high, and they usually have some pretty bad adulturants (straight molly is so hard to comeby aswell)). So do I man, seriously, we've recently had problems with assaults in the city and i seriously think its because mdma has dried up (started happening about 3-4 years ago although we have got some imports going round at the moment which are sick) and most clubbers are turning to meth, so instead of running around hugging people like it use to be, everyones having a go at eachother (also, theres alot of GHB going around in the club scene and people are blowing out left right and centre which isnt good either). It's still quite peacful and personally I havent had many problems, but ive definately noticed a change from a few years back, but not to the extent to which the media sensationalises it. At the end of the day, people are going to do drugs and those who are involved in the night life of melbourne are going to do someform of stimulant, and i seriously think that harm reduction (similar to the netherlands policy on mdma) is the way to go here (who wants a bunch of methed up idiots running around the cities at night).
Letting people take drugs in a smart shop (wtf is that anyways?), so that it will be in a sober environment? I'm sorry but there's nothing sober about doing drugs, especially designer drugs, that are made in a lab, are you fucking kidding me?
And OP do you even like the idea yourself? TBH reading you suggestion, I think you dont even like the idea yourself, you're just trolling people, and try to offend them on the internet.
On March 03 2012 23:43 MadNeSs wrote: Letting people take drugs in a smart shop (wtf is that anyways?), so that it will be in a sober environment? I'm sorry but there's nothing sober about doing drugs, especially designer drugs, that are made in a lab, are you fucking kidding me?
Can you quote the post that said that? I don't remember ever reading that in any of the replies.
And OP do you even like the idea yourself? TBH reading you suggestion, I think you dont even like the idea yourself, you're just trolling people, and try to offend them on the internet.
Well, your thought of me most probably trolling here must mean that I sound really dumb. I don't understand how am I supposed to offend anyone with what I'm writing. Look - some people gave me offers about drugs I may try, so they obviosuly don't feel ofended. Why are you? Lots of discouraging replies changed my mind about taking amphetamine, they showed me how uninformed and naive I am.
On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here?
meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants
OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into
to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance
On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider.
Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider.
On March 03 2012 09:02 johnnywup wrote: Go watch requiem for a dream, OP.
I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
Yes because you have the willpower of a superhuman. :D It's not your choice how addicted you get.
Meth is not a good choice of drug as far as my knowledge of drugs go. The negatives far outweigh the positives as opposed to something like weed or other drugs taken in the right crcumstances.
On March 03 2012 23:43 MadNeSs wrote: Letting people take drugs in a smart shop (wtf is that anyways?), so that it will be in a sober environment? I'm sorry but there's nothing sober about doing drugs, especially designer drugs, that are made in a lab, are you fucking kidding me?
Can you quote the post that said that? I don't remember ever reading that in any of the replies.
And OP do you even like the idea yourself? TBH reading you suggestion, I think you dont even like the idea yourself, you're just trolling people, and try to offend them on the internet.
Well, your thought of me most probably trolling here must mean that I sound really dumb. I don't understand how am I supposed to offend anyone with what I'm writing. Look - some people gave me offers about drugs I may try, so they obviosuly don't feel ofended. Why are you? Lots of discouraging replies changed my mind about taking amphetamine, they showed me how uninformed and naive I am.
I'm offended like many others, because the idea is stupid and why the hell would you ever want something like this?
And just for the record I've been doing drugs for a very long time, probably much longer than you, so I that I know what I'm talking about.
EPT
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