EPTWhen do you speculate the next tournament will occur?
TSL 4?
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jimbob615
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When do you speculate the next tournament will occur? | ||
flamewheel
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Tobberoth
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poundcakes
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jimbob615
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On February 15 2012 01:47 flamewheel wrote: December 22, 2012. noooooooo... sure you couldn't put it back a few days? i always find it so frustrating when i wait patiently for something and then just as it's about to begin, the world ends T_T | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
Prediction for TSL4? February 2013. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:53 CaucasianAsian wrote: Why does everyone talk about TSL3 and how awesome it was? TSL 1 and 2 were phenomenal as well! Because I think for most of us it was our first. Many of of us have heard the legends of NonY's TSL2 victory and a famous CC cancel but have never seen it with our own eyes. Thorzains run through TSL3 was the most memorable experience Iv ever had watching Starcraft. I remember the very start of the tournament when Thorzain was up against fruitdealer, and the poll was something like 98% in favor of fruitdealer, I almost didnt want to watch the game because i was worried it would just be a stomp. an hour later Thorzain has FD on the ropes and wont miss a single baneling mine on terminus (pretty sure it was terminus), pushing with thors to close it out. I have never been so excited watching any competition in my life, nor emotionally attached. The rest of his run was equally amazing, right up to the smash comeback against Nani. Also Goody. Cant wait for TSL4. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
I don't remember much of TSL1&2, except they had the sickest production value ever for a non-live tournament: awesome music (down Down DOOOWWWN!!), drawn progamer portraits, and even hype and intro videos. Also, there were no Koreans because they would have raped too hard. | ||
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
I hope it will be soon, since its was the best offline tournament of 2011 | ||
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:53 CaucasianAsian wrote: Why does everyone talk about TSL3 and how awesome it was? TSL 1 and 2 were phenomenal as well! Because most people weren't in TL yet when TSL1 and TSL 2 happened. Me included. ^^ | ||
tree.hugger
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? How is this even a question. "Does the community really want another of the most hyped, most memorable, most absolutely insane StarCraft tournament that we can remember?" | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:53 CaucasianAsian wrote: Why does everyone talk about TSL3 and how awesome it was? TSL 1 and 2 were phenomenal as well! ambition is scarce these days | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:03 PassiveAce wrote: Because I think for most of us it was our first. Many of of us have heard the legends of NonY's TSL2 victory and a famous CC cancel but have never seen it with our own eyes. Thorzains run through TSL3 was the most memorable experience Iv ever had watching Starcraft. I remember the very start of the tournament when Thorzain was up against fruitdealer, and the poll was something like 98% in favor of fruitdealer, I almost didnt want to watch the game because i was worried it would just be a stomp. an hour later Thorzain has FD on the ropes and wont miss a single baneling mine on terminus (pretty sure it was terminus), pushing with thors to close it out. I have never been so excited watching any competition in my life, nor emotionally attached. The rest of his run was equally amazing, right up to the smash comeback against Nani. Also Goody. Cant wait for TSL4. Indeed! Although if you play BW at all I would highly recommend watching TSL's 1+2. The finals for both were so dramatic and breathtaking. | ||
Chill
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? why do you even have to ask? Of course we do | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19151 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? only if it's BW | ||
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:47 flamewheel wrote: December 22, 2012. Thread killer. TSL3 was the first tournament I watched the entirety of; it needs to happen soon! | ||
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:53 CaucasianAsian wrote: Why does everyone talk about TSL3 and how awesome it was? TSL 1 and 2 were phenomenal as well! Wasn't around for 1 but i think TSL2 was better than 3. I think its just cause the game was sooooo new then. Altough I enjoyed seeing mondragon compete and goody winning against nestea. and lol at all of you who already forgot about On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? really? | ||
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StarStruck
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On February 15 2012 02:34 Chill wrote: TSL 4 will rise from the shadows cast by a $20 bill. Zing. | ||
Plexa
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Bagration
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On February 15 2012 02:54 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1oTU1MDhEY Nice, very Pixar-esque. Hopefully another TSL happens soon. Always great to watch | ||
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Stipulation
United States587 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:54 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1oTU1MDhEY This made me tingle so much the first time I saw it. On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? Oh yes we do! | ||
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StorrZerg
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Garrl
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You know you want it. | ||
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:34 Chill wrote: TSL 4 will rise from the shadows cast by a $20 bill. Hell charging $20 for a 2 month long, fucking amazing HD tournament that the community will be shitting them selves over for months afterwards? Yes, yes I'm pretty sure no one would complain. | ||
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Molybdenum
United States358 Posts
On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? Hahah, these jokes aren't made enough, but no one gets them. This is a reference to when blizzard asked if we "really wanted chat channels", not a legit question... Sheesh Anyway, TSLs are not something that should be rushed. Too often and they'd lose that special touch | ||
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Skeggaba
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TSL 2 was the high point in my life, best thing that has ever happened in the world ever pretty much! | ||
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Torte de Lini
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TheSubtleArt
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followZeRoX
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fabiano
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On February 15 2012 01:53 CaucasianAsian wrote: Why does everyone talk about TSL3 and how awesome it was? TSL 1 and 2 were phenomenal as well! TSL2 is best TSL hands down. TSL3 was okayish, kinda average, not very exciting. Didn't catch TSL1 unfortunately, joined TL only in 2009 | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
TSL 3 was great, though. Thorzain's legendary run, the Koreans getting dominated early, the amazing finals. Can't wait for the next one! | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I watched a bit of TSL2 over the years (didn't see it live, at first I didn't know what it was so when it said "pokerstrategy.net" I got it into my head that it was a poker tournament with StarCraft players) I liked TSL2 because it was broodwar and a lot of great action overall, but I gotta give it to TSL3 for the plot twists. Thorzain taking out MC made me shit (I watched it on a toilet), and the finals were nothing short of amazing, with + Show Spoiler [do i need a spoiler? ah well who knows] + 3-3 first six games, and the seventh being decided in the last minute And that just overshadows the TSL2 finals, the last game in that one was shit by comparison. | ||
nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On February 26 2012 05:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I want a TSL4 just before HoTS so we can get the most refined Wings of Liberty games before everyone goes home to fuck around with the new units That would actually be very cool! Also - if there is funding problem - maybe a Kickstarter for the most awesome SC2 tournament ever? Maybe TSL4 could beat some records  | ||
BLinD-RawR
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On February 15 2012 03:20 StorrZerg wrote: DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN! Razer TSL ♥! | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
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Murlox
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On February 15 2012 02:34 Chill wrote: TSL 4 will rise from the shadows cast by a $20 bill. Get out... | ||
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L_Master
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Just fantastic games with epic storylines (IdrA v NonY) both for seed and in Ro8, JF coming back, Mondragon coming back and tearing into the finals; and then just insanely epic games like GosI[Terran]'s unreal hold against JF on outsider. To be honest TSL2 might be the high point of my entire starcraft viewing experience. That tournament was THAT good. | ||
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Game
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scDeluX
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On March 03 2012 05:34 Game wrote: I'd love to see a SC2 vs BW poll to see what the community wants TSL4 to be. I don't think you want to know. | ||
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Game
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Wouldn't have posted if I didn't. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
It would be sc2 no contest. It shouldn't be surprising either considering sc2 has a much bigger fanbase on tl then bw (I love both games btw but it is true). I don't see most people who play sc2/watch sc2 to vote for BW. | ||
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Eywa-
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On March 03 2012 05:46 blade55555 wrote: It would be sc2 no contest. It shouldn't be surprising either considering sc2 has a much bigger fanbase on tl then bw (I love both games btw but it is true). I don't see most people who play sc2/watch sc2 to vote for BW. People who play SC2 watch the BW Korean pros, I don't see why they wouldn't want to see it in BW... 1) TSL2 is pretty much unanimously considered the best of the TSL (except by those who didn't see it = can be disregarded) 2) They'll be able to watch SC2 every day regardless if they choose to have TSL as SC2 or BW, it'll just be another tournament. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 03 2012 05:50 Eywa- wrote: People who play SC2 watch the BW Korean pros, I don't see why they wouldn't want to see it in BW... 1) TSL2 is pretty much unanimously considered the best of the TSL (except by those who didn't see it = can be disregarded) 2) They'll be able to watch SC2 every day regardless if they choose to have TSL as SC2 or BW, it'll just be another tournament. You also have to realize though that sc2 players don't watch foreign pro's. So sc2 players/viewers won't want to watch a tournament where they know absolutely nothing about the players. If you look at viewers for bw tournaments I don't see that many a couple thousand on the streams is all I have seen whenever I glance at the viewers for a bw foreign tournament which only makes me believe more that there is no way the sc2 community would vote for bw. I loved TSL2 as well I agree with you but if there were a vote I would be 99.9% positive sc2 would win by a landslide. If it didn't my mind would blow from shock. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
TSL was a great community event, it makes a ton more sense for TSL4 to be an SC2 event...not only is there far higher SC2 viewers/fans on the site, but there is a HUGE number of way more popular/famous/well-known players in SC2 than in BW right now (no offense to BW Foreigners still playing! :D) As much as I'd love a BW TSL, without all the super famous and well-known community members playing in it (Nony, Idra, Mondragon, Iefniaj, so on) the TSL charm is kind of missing in BW-land. :D | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Anyway sponsorship would be impossible to come by in my opinion, and I don't think the staff really wish it overall. And yeah, it probably wouldn't be the greatest success. That being said, I'm not sure how a SC2 TSL4 would fare either. Seems to be a really harsh competition in sc2 atm... As for a poll, depends where you post it. On the front page, bw would probably get destroyed, in blog, it would surely lose, but not that much. | ||
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fabiano
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What about a BW TSL All Stars then, as a separated event? Featuring Nony, Ret, Idra, Jianfei, Mondragon, White_ra so many other foreigns... and hell, we could even get Boxer, Nada and July now. Then make TSL 4 a SC2 event. We can always dream, even though it will never become true. About the poll, its kind obvious that SC2 fans will spam vote and win the poll with ease. TL population changed a lot from what it was 3 years ago... | ||
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Torenhire
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laLAlA[uC]
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Otolia
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Chef
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L_Master
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On March 03 2012 10:26 Chef wrote: As cool as it would be for there to be another BW TSL, there is just no way it would happen. A much smaller BW tournament hosted by TL would be cool though. Or bringing back kind of the hill or any of those fun events. TSL4 seems kinda pointless... What would separate it from a million other foreign tournaments? TSL to me stands for being the lone prestigious foreign tournament.. That's how the project originally began. It would be a shame to see it just be another tournament with nothing special or particularly exciting about it. Up to TLHQ what they want it to mean from now on though, of course. Admittedly it would not be the lone, and possibly not even the most, prestigious SC2 tournament. However, part of what made TSL unique and fun for me is the way it was played out over the course of several months, the drama leading up, the ins/outs day by day of ladder qualifying, hype leading up to matches. Other tournaments like GSL have traces of this but nothing like what TSL does for me. I don't thing I have ever enjoyed an entire tournament (including OSL/MSL) more than I did TSL2 and to a lesser extent TSL3. | ||
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blade55555
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On March 08 2012 14:23 L_Master wrote: Admittedly it would not be the lone, and possibly not even the most, prestigious SC2 tournament. However, part of what made TSL unique and fun for me is the way it was played out over the course of several months, the drama leading up, the ins/outs day by day of ladder qualifying, hype leading up to matches. Other tournaments like GSL have traces of this but nothing like what TSL does for me. I don't thing I have ever enjoyed an entire tournament (including OSL/MSL) more than I did TSL2 and to a lesser extent TSL3. Agreed. It's one thing I really love about the TSL, is it's qualifiers. It's not mainly invite focused (although last TSL obviously had some) but there were still plenty of qualifiers. Now of days almost no tournaments do it like TSL1-3. There may be qualifiers for 1-2 spots but that's it. It's why I really want the TSL4, another qualifier only tournament, no invites, no special treatment, best of the best get in. The way they do it is also amazing, interviews, goes for a couple months and just so exciting. Ah how I hope TSL4 does happen though (assuming they stick with mainly qualifiers and not 3/4'ths invites like most tournaments :/.) | ||
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oBlade
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Telcontar
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On February 15 2012 02:23 tree.hugger wrote: Does the community really want TSL4? Just got off the phone with Troy and Abed and yes, they do want TSL4. | ||
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MCDayC
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nimdil
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StarStruck
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On March 24 2012 01:16 nimdil wrote: I hope there is no problem with TSL competing with other tournaments like DH, GSL, NASL, IPL or MLG and IEM for the spectators and that there won't be a TSL4 so TL can stay on good terms with other big tournaments? It will be no problem. | ||
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purgerinho
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StarStruck
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
Featuring An elephant, TLO's beard, a blurry-faced BW pro, and Dustin Browder himself-- playing as the 200 supply Double-Down Thor. Who will win? | ||
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phanto
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Chriscras
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twoliveanddie
United States2049 Posts
Almost every weekend is an event, on some there are two and I dont think it`s healthy for the scene to compete too much with eachother totally disagree !!! you need the competition to keep the fighting spirit alive, to see which events remain strong, to see which events can last and keep that torch going for the SC2 scene. this is a VERY GOOD problem for SC2 !! any other gaming scene is jealous of sc2 for this very fact. | ||
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Jonoman92
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On February 15 2012 01:47 flamewheel wrote: December 22, 2012. Made me almost spit water out onto my keyboard thx a lot. | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
Don't tell me whether I'm right or wrong, people with actual knowledge. I like suspense. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
- Lag issues with KR vs NA servers. - The finals production quality could've been better. - Only 1 game shown live. If it wasn't a teamliquid event, I think it would've been negatively received. The things TSL3 did well: - Good balance of invites and qualifiers, although I would've preferred more places for qualifiers. - Good hype. | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
On April 05 2012 17:40 Azzur wrote: - Good balance of invites and qualifiers, although I would've preferred more places for qualifiers. really good point, most of the invites were invited for name value and were slumping at the time, only 2 invites out of 13 got to the quarterfinals and none got to the semifinals. | ||
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
On February 15 2012 01:51 Tobberoth wrote: I wouldn't expect next TSL until HotS is out. I don't know if flamewheel has some awesome inside knowledge for the date, but december 2012 sounds very reasonable. Dec. 22, 2012 is 1 day after December 21, 2012 the alleged end of the world... | ||
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