• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:56
CEST 07:56
KST 14:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL19Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)17Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN Can anyone explain to me why u cant veto a matchup The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2. Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) DreamHack Dallas 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Connect with Key Decision-Makers Through Ready Mai Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Monster Hunter Wilds Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 22122 users

This is how you REALLY go pro (VileIllusion Story)

Blogs > LuckyFool
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 13 2012 06:02 GMT
#1
I read many blogs on TL of people wanting to go pro or how they plan to drop everything and be a progamer....To all of those people it's time for some real going pro story time. Told from my perspective about the upcoming player Illusion, Terran player for Vile gaming.

--------------

It's not often I get to watch a player improve quite like Chris has over the past year, after some games tonight I got all inspired to go on a writing spree and share a story that I think people may find interesting about this upcoming Terran player!

When I first saw this guy in November 2010(or so) at a local lan he was a simple, nothing special mid masters zerg player, (maybe even low masters I don't even remember) who was screwing around playing multiple races and didn't seem like much of anything. He had just recently joined a new team I believe, Revoki gaming which had a bunch of mid tier players. (eventually all the good Rev players left for sponsored teams and poor Rev died but that's another story for another day lol)

There are always thousands of virtually unknown players who plod through mid/high masters ranks on average mid tier American teams, never making a name for themselves, never really standing out ever and then they just fade away. I experience this because I play at around a high masters/gm level in NA and see many people come and go. (I sort of remain same skill level and get to watch people pass me or crash and burn while I stay same old same old, but this is also another story for another day) Every now and then things seem to fall into place for particular players though, I've observed it online often, but my story watching Illusion runs a little deeper than the usual jump to stardom I might watch online. Little did I know when first seeing him play that Illusion could do it. After watching him 3-0 demuslim convincingly tonight to qualify for IEM Sau Paulo, I felt a sort of circle had completed in a story that I could share...

I didn't think much of Illusion at first, he continued coming to lans, always placing fairly high, he switched to main terran I believe sometime shortly after I first saw him over the fall/winter of last year. It wasn't until a lan in May 2011 that I actually felt something, felt like he could have some serious potential.

I had played vs him before a few times at lans, always winning pretty easily. Something quite different happened during a day of a lan in May 2011 though. It was quite odd actually and I never really talked about it, only a few people know this story. We both played each other in the morning for an online tournament totally unrelated to the LAN (it was some qualifier for some other IEM event or something) and I won 2-0 over illusion there in pretty easy wins. Didn't really think much of it at all) Besides I'm "supposed" to beat totally unknown random 15 year olds...5 or 6 hours later we met again in the semifinals of the lan and he won 3-1 I believe in a bo5, with some quite different play vs my quite similar play.

I was actually too pissed at the time of losing at that time to really realize that he had analyzed the replays of our morning games from the online event and simply adjusted perfectly vs my style, all in a very short timespan. He went on to defeat a high masters zerg player in the finals of that lan that day, but I remember leaving the place wondering if I had actually played poorly in the semifinals, or if this illusion guy actually had quite a bit more depth to his play than I ever thought. I didn't feel like I played any worse than I had in the morning and yet in the late afternoon I was taken out in a bo5 by the same player. I saved the replays of all games we played that day (I think we played each other 8 or 9 times) and watched them later that night. The difference of play in morning/afternoon was pretty remarkable. Simple adjustments were made but they were perfect and perfectly executed.

Now most players can make adjustments given replays and time. But for most average players they need to practice the adjustment many times before executing it. Top tier players will usually grind out games and be able to fall into adjustments as needed. Something Illusion did that day was adjust literally on the fly, something that I did not expect at all and definitely not something I typically see from a player so young. I know and have played against other young players, (pokebunny for example) although he has QUITE a bit more RTS background than illusion. Illusion comes from next to nothing before sc2, (casual CS player?)

Anyway shortly after that lan event in May Illusion traveled to NYC to compete in a WCG event. I remember watching this event and his games because at that time I had taken a bit of extra interest in him. I forget who he lost to deep in the tournament (perhaps pokebunny?) where he was literally SUPER far ahead the entire game and then suicides an entire army into a tank line and had some really bad decision making in general from what I observed. I remember getting annoyed watching, myself being a more experienced RTS player I could actually see things in his play that if he improved he could be so much better. I told him he should practice mech/positional based builds more (I still tell him this) but his strengths were always in micro/harass builds which actually suits terran perfectly in SC2. One of the reasons I think I'm not as successful playing terran in sc2 is its better for unpredictable/harass/aggression, all things Illusion does well. I'm aggressive but I prefer to play a more structured/practiced style where I need to practice builds 50 times before I would ever consider using them in a tournament.

2011 summer went on, I forgot exactly when he joined Vile(June?) but I remember thinking that was a perfect fit for him. I knew many Vile players (still do) and thought it would only benefit him. It sure as hell did...

Can't remember exactly his specific mlg results before Providence. I remember he had difficult brackets but did well. He had to play his teammate Spanishiwa round 1 I think in Raleigh. He ended up making it to losers round 7 or 8 where he lost to a solid NA protoss player, rsvp. He was another MLG as well, maybe one of the earlier ones (Columbus? Anaheim?)

Providence was his first real big splash and I actually watched most of his games. Somebody I enjoy following fairly closely as well is Kawaiirice. Illusion and Kawaii played each other in Providence which I remember hating hardcore. (Lose-Lose!) It was funny because I'm pretty sure they both asked me how each other played (I know illusion did) and I lied, I told Illusion that kawaii played mech style lol... T_T

I <3 both kids BUT Kawaii was still > Illusion due to broodwar background, plus I owe Kawaii for trying to help my god awful broodwar tvz...so I help out wherever possible including feeding bullshit info to his opponents at mlgs. but this is another story for another day.

Despite these shenanigans Illusion ended up winning and went on to take out Sheth and play amazing sick series vs TLO/Haypro and others. When he was playing vs Sheth/Haypro so many people were like "Who the fuck is this kid? Is he good? Why have I never heard of him?" I just remember standing there thinking, am I really watching this guy tearing through MLG bracket? A year ago at the same time he was getting roflstomped by a random mid masters protoss in a PvZ in a lan in a random backyard lan center....now random guys are asking me who the hell this gosu as fuk kid is.

Was kind of surreal to me. I think it's been surreal to him too. As most players rises they don't ever really expect it, it sort of just happens as they keep improving and getting better. I spend many mornings browsing TL blog section reading about how billy bob the gold leaguer is going pro. Meanwhile I'm actually watching it happen.... This is how it actually happens folks. Hours and hours of hardwork, months of practice and dedication. That's why watching high level bw/sc2 never gets old to me. Just thinking about how hard that person is working to get to where they are...pretty mind boggling.

There's more to be told and I'm sure some of my facts might be wrong but it's been fun to watch this player from my perspective!

People watch top players and leagues like ESL/IPL/NASL/GSL and you see the games, but the stories of how they rise don't always get told. I've always had huge respect for top players in bw/sc2 because I know how much work it requires, you have to want it more than anything else really and dedicate yourself so hard to get to the level you see players at. When it pays off...it's really quite amazing, especially considering how difficult it is for new players to break out. You have to navigate a labyrinth of koreans and the 2-3 dozen already established pros who get invited to the same top tier events, it's actually quite a bit harder for new players to break in, once there I suppose it's easy to stay. But everyone's earned it at one point or another.

gL @ IEM Illusion you just qualified for a major international event...I think all of DC area supports you 100% I know I do, >_>; !~!~

****
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 13 2012 06:09 GMT
#2
Many of us have been saying it for a while.

The kid is good. I know talent when I see it.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 06:10:48
January 13 2012 06:10 GMT
#3
GO ILLUSION! Nice Blog
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
heha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia425 Posts
January 13 2012 06:12 GMT
#4
Nice read and perspective on an up-and-comer. Gratz to Illusion, and thanks for this Luckyfool
Random for life! phoneheha
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
January 13 2012 06:16 GMT
#5
♥
I'm pretty sure they both asked me how each other played (I know illusion did) and I lied, I told Illusion that kawaii played mech style lol... T_T

._.
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 06:34:37
January 13 2012 06:31 GMT
#6
On January 13 2012 15:16 vileIllusion wrote:
♥
Show nested quote +
I'm pretty sure they both asked me how each other played (I know illusion did) and I lied, I told Illusion that kawaii played mech style lol... T_T

._.


I think I give kawaii bad luck, whenever I get eliminated at mlg first thing I do is go find where he's playing and I end up watching him lose which just makes me more depressed....happened when he played vs sjow at colubmus I think it was, saw him get 4-0'd by demuslim in an extended series once which was hella depressing (Columbus or raleigh cant remember)

later in the year during IPL3 I remember I went over to see his championship bracket match and found out he had to play huk and lost 0-2...

maybe I should just avoid him at lan events and he'll go undefeated.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
January 13 2012 06:35 GMT
#7
LOL that's so cute.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 06:40:53
January 13 2012 06:37 GMT
#8
I played Starcraft since before he touched a mouse. Now he's winning tons of stuff. sick life.

I love you illusion, you're a true nerd baller. (and I love you too LuckyFool)
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 13 2012 06:46 GMT
#9
On January 13 2012 15:31 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:16 vileIllusion wrote:
♥
I'm pretty sure they both asked me how each other played (I know illusion did) and I lied, I told Illusion that kawaii played mech style lol... T_T

._.


I think I give kawaii bad luck, whenever I get eliminated at mlg first thing I do is go find where he's playing and I end up watching him lose which just makes me more depressed....happened when he played vs sjow at colubmus I think it was, saw him get 4-0'd by demuslim in an extended series once which was hella depressing (Columbus or raleigh cant remember)

later in the year during IPL3 I remember I went over to see his championship bracket match and found out he had to play huk and lost 0-2...

maybe I should just avoid him at lan events and he'll go undefeated.

dont touch me ever again irl
seriously i will smash a table if my kiwis see u within 30 feet from me while im playing

D:
@KawaiiRiceLighT
husniack
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
203 Posts
January 13 2012 06:51 GMT
#10
-At other youth aspiring to starcraft glory: The harder you grind, the easier it looks. This something not many people get. I didn't get it when I was younger though I thought I did. You only start 'getting it' when you try and put it in practice every single day.

-At Vile, you must be a young asian child. "Jinxing" is a real phenomenon. I know how pride, even a milliliter of it, can distract the chinese mind. The best is to simultaneously accept and reject praise.
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
January 13 2012 06:55 GMT
#11
nice blog mate, good read.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
Tuneful
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
January 13 2012 07:52 GMT
#12
Nice blog. Grats Illusion
"I play this game for three years, twelve hours a day - I shouldn't lose to these people"
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
January 13 2012 08:13 GMT
#13
I've also had the pleasure of seeing Chris develop, going from an average mid-masters Terran to defeating me handily within 2 months and is now to the point where he can improvise a build and still take me out with ease. This is coming from a Zerg player that has beat many of the top Terrans on ladder. He seriously has the best TvZ I have ever seen.

To any kids wanting to go pro like Illusion, as LuckyFool says: you have to WANT it. Not only that, but you have to work towards that. There were many times where Illusion would message me in the middle of a 16 hour practice session for some games because "all the other Zergs I know are dodging me." This is astounding -- He's playing so much but not dropping off. After 5-6 hours of practice, I become mentally fatigued. After 12-14 hours, after tiring out all of his practice partners, he is still messaging more people for games and defeating them with ease.

If you have the desire, and the work ethic, anything is possible. But you also need to be able to be critical of your own play and be able to make adjustments as you see fit.

Great blog LF.

- Drone
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 13 2012 08:14 GMT
#14
the responses by illusion and kawaiirice are pure gold ^^''' LOL

in all seriousness though, nice job@illusion ^^

Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 13 2012 08:48 GMT
#15
gogo illusion!

Nice blog, Rob :D
Skill is relative.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 13 2012 09:29 GMT
#16
I couldn't have written this better.

Rob and I are like Illusions two fath..


er nevermind that.



That's okay, when Illusion wins a GSL, I can be like "yo I remember this kid when he was in masters!"
Illusion #1 Hipster-fan right here! Maybe I'll put that into my Sig... hmm.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 13 2012 12:36 GMT
#17
I'm proud to have been there since the beginning ^^

Ignore torenhire, he's not the #1 fan

I actually talked to your mother, so I'm more like your father than anyone ! hoooooooooo
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 12:45:52
January 13 2012 12:45 GMT
#18
Me and my buddies watched him play Live at Providence. We had the perfect spot because he wasn't too far away from the outer ring of the competitors area. It was really entertaining watching him play I gotta say. We also got to watch MKP (who sat in the same seat after Illusion was done) annihilate DarkForce so the difference in skill was very apparent when we made the comparisons lol, but Illusion is no joke brotha.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
January 13 2012 12:51 GMT
#19
If I was trolling I'd summarise by saying that mid-masters Zerg switches to main Terran, then shortly afterwards rockets up the ranks to become Pro. But I'm not, so GJ Illiusion and nice blog.
No logo (logo)
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 13 2012 13:02 GMT
#20
this one fixed himself...
why so 진지해?
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 221
StarCraft: Brood War
TY 3251
ToSsGirL 88
Mind 77
Shinee 28
Noble 16
SilentControl 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
JulyZerg 4
League of Legends
JimRising 722
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K771
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King125
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor123
Other Games
summit1g7678
C9.Mang0486
Skadoodle199
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick758
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 88
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 111
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1125
• Stunt379
• HappyZerGling108
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
3h 4m
Road to EWC
4h 4m
Road to EWC
16h 4m
Road to EWC
1d 3h
Road to EWC
1d 10h
BSL Season 20
1d 12h
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
1d 22h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL Season 20
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.