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On January 12 2012 10:57 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 10:46 Sinensis wrote:I dunno why this blog is so interesting to me...probably because my classes all hated me too.  I like how you said you tried to go in like Michael Jackson and it fail, that's hilarious. On a similar note, yeah, maybe try going in like Bob Ross or Mister Rogers... seriously everyone adores Mister Rogers you can't go wrong. :D Haha, what did you do? I try to play upbeat music to keep me attentive during class, but I always resolve to Jazz T___T
I dropped out my final semester and haven't gone back. So maybe my advice isn't the best, but it at least makes sense to me and hopefully isn't making anyone unhappy; that's all that really counts.
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On January 12 2012 11:15 Porcelain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 10:44 EternaLLegacy wrote:On January 12 2012 10:32 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:20 EternaLLegacy wrote:
You might just be dealing with idiots who can't conceptualize abstract arguments. It sounds like you want to debate people who simply cannot grasp what you're talking about because it doesn't fit into one of their prerecorded arguments. Perhaps, I actually enjoy that first line a lot, would have never articulated it that way. Even if they are idiots, it keeps the class light-hearted and keeps the discussion going. Putting in a snippety wise-ass is just aggravating and disruptive in the end, right or wrong. I just had a miserable experience in a philosophy class, where I was the only one who actually knew how to debate and discuss ideas using logic. The rest of the class tried talking about what they "felt" was the right answer, not how to logically deduce it. Naturally, after watching their arguments get torn apart without hesitation, they became extremely intimidated and just shut up completely for the rest of the semester. It made the class extremely boring because it was me explaining things 50% of the time or more, even though I wasn't even the TA. Go figure. I'm going through something similar in one of my classes this quarter. It's really awful. During my college career so far I've rarely experienced an intelligent (and well articulated) debate. They're so much fun. : / This blog and its comments are incredibly interesting. Love it! I'm all for U of TL. Torte: You know I love your writing, but you need to stop comma splicing. It's probably the only thing you do that bothers me. It's okay; I used to love commas too! This blog makes me wonder how you sound IRL compared to your writing. My assumption would be that you sound similar, but are probably a lot more wordy. You need to stream!
We should start a stream for intellectuals. BD
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On January 12 2012 11:14 natebreen wrote:
Torte I didn't write that hence why I said it seems fitting.
It's a copy paste from another discussion I read.
The point is that often you find yourself questioning why things are the way they are, or why situations arise.
Often it's not always ego centric. Sometimes you are indeed at fault.
Your "wrong kind of smart" is really just you refusing to communicate with people, and rather you're trying to communicate at them because you view yourself as intelligent, or even moreso.
It seemed odd and out of place :B
I agree that I may be over-bearingly arrogant in educated conversations nonetheless.
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misunderstandings...they'll take you to the end of the internets
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On January 12 2012 11:11 Snuggles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 11:06 Snuggles wrote:On January 12 2012 11:02 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:49 natebreen wrote:On January 12 2012 10:39 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:26 Snuggles wrote:
I'll be blunt with what I think of it.
The discussion of intelligence, the way we express it, how much of it do we really have, is a pretty touchy subject (retfan)- but I assume that people in this thread all understand that and that we're all making a conscious effort not to make anyone upset because of a misunderstanding. All good intentions here. Either way, you're doing a great job at articulating yourself so I get that this is an honest problem.
What immediately came to mind after I finished reading your OP was "Why doesn't he simply express himself in a way so that everyone can understand?" What if the question isn't "Am I the wrong kind of smart?" and the real question is why aren't you smart enough to know that you need to express yourself differently to have better feedback from your audience. I gave it some more thought and from what I'm reading in this thread it seems like this is just the way you want to talk in a discussion that requires full exercise of intelligence. From what I can see in you example, and from the type of school you're going to- it's just not going to fly man.
Most people aren't going to take-in what you're saying very well, personally if I was sitting in the same classroom I would be shaking my head and thinking "Did he really need to waste my time regurgitating that long ass string of words?", the person next to me could be saying "Who does this guy think he is?", misunderstanding you when this is just how you want to express yourself. Smart people are a minority, and they are praised for their intelligence by the majority. So if only a handful of your colleagues fully understands and appreciates your way of expressing your thoughts than this puts you into the minority, and this is a bad minority.
I mean I see at least 1 person that does what you do to varying degrees each semester. Some do it and get away with it, some don't and a genuinely smart person speaks up to further their point significantly in half the time. Obviously you can see now that I don't like people who add too much vocabulary into their speech, but at the same time I'm making a conscious effort to understand that this is just how some people, like you Torti, just want to express themselves. In the end all I can say is, you're never going to be widely accepted with this way of talking, no matter what the setting is, unless of course you've somehow landed a sweet seat for lunch with a bunch of scholars with published work. "Why doesn't he simply express himself in a way so that everyone can understand?" It's not possible. It's harder for me to simplify it than to make it even more complex or add to it. When I'm on the spot and feel the need to portray what I want to argue or think, it comes out in a literary mass that makes sense if written, but becomes too much to an average listener. It's not higher quality, it's the wrong quality of text at the wrong quantitiy. Everything you're saying in P1 and P2 are right and I'm pretty sure that's what they're thinking (justifiably). They have every right to be, but it's not an intentioned or effort-full attempt to express more than I want, it's just how I want it to be said or how I would say it if asked plainly in a paper. I really want to record the next time I go! It's because your attitude towards your intelligence is general is over-inflated, as the long post I copied points out. There are enough perfect SAT scoring students to fill the top universities in the US every year. There are perfect scoring students on every graduate school test yearly. There are people who graduate undergrad at 17 with perfect grades. Anyone can be smart or intelligent and know it. Relying on that like a crutch is what some people would call "taking yourself too seriously." Be succint. Communicate your points in the best manner. Intelligence means nothing if you can't communicate your point to a mass audience. Basically you just need to sit back and realize that you're not hot shit. You may claim you don't think you are, but if you're finding yourself in these situations like you posted about, it's because of the aforementioned issues with self-identity and inflation of ego. I trust you don't need to ask why I have such experience in this realm  I think you're misassociating dilligence to understand learned material and general intelligence. Torti just say "You sir have misunderstood my post". Maybe the way you're trying to express yourself is too thorough, I don't think it's good to hold people's hands so that they will understand every single point in your thoughts to the comma. It's possible to express your yourself in a more simple manner, you just need to work on it. I'm trying to hit two birds with one stone. You say: "You misunderstood my post" He, I assure you, is going to ask: "How so?" The original skips that whole thing. How about "You misunderstood my post, you're confusing book smarts and general intelligence"? I mean it's the same length, but rewritten so it's easier to swallow.
Yes, that sounds way better and so down-to-Earth :X
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On January 12 2012 11:16 PetRockSteve wrote:I see that your questioned spurred another response from me.  I believe the book I read was "Thank You for Arguing," which dealt a lot with rhetoric terms and ideas using discussions and debates in real-life situations. I'm not sure how directly it will apply to this situation, but I found that it has changed how I phrase some of my comments/questions/requests.
I LOVE THAT BOOK!
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On January 12 2012 11:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
I like using big words and complex sentences with multiple appendages and some attempts at what resembles humour. Then I took a Philosophy of Economics class and got stumped by even bigger words and the fine lines between similar but different concepts. It was enlightening.
But yeah, find others to discuss "properly" with you and "dumb" it down a little for your classmates, try to only use big words when they are also used in the class material.
Also, start a word of the day blog. :D
A word of the day blog would be enjoyable.
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On January 12 2012 11:21 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:11 Snuggles wrote:On January 12 2012 11:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 11:06 Snuggles wrote:On January 12 2012 11:02 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:49 natebreen wrote:On January 12 2012 10:39 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:26 Snuggles wrote:
I'll be blunt with what I think of it.
The discussion of intelligence, the way we express it, how much of it do we really have, is a pretty touchy subject (retfan)- but I assume that people in this thread all understand that and that we're all making a conscious effort not to make anyone upset because of a misunderstanding. All good intentions here. Either way, you're doing a great job at articulating yourself so I get that this is an honest problem.
What immediately came to mind after I finished reading your OP was "Why doesn't he simply express himself in a way so that everyone can understand?" What if the question isn't "Am I the wrong kind of smart?" and the real question is why aren't you smart enough to know that you need to express yourself differently to have better feedback from your audience. I gave it some more thought and from what I'm reading in this thread it seems like this is just the way you want to talk in a discussion that requires full exercise of intelligence. From what I can see in you example, and from the type of school you're going to- it's just not going to fly man.
Most people aren't going to take-in what you're saying very well, personally if I was sitting in the same classroom I would be shaking my head and thinking "Did he really need to waste my time regurgitating that long ass string of words?", the person next to me could be saying "Who does this guy think he is?", misunderstanding you when this is just how you want to express yourself. Smart people are a minority, and they are praised for their intelligence by the majority. So if only a handful of your colleagues fully understands and appreciates your way of expressing your thoughts than this puts you into the minority, and this is a bad minority.
I mean I see at least 1 person that does what you do to varying degrees each semester. Some do it and get away with it, some don't and a genuinely smart person speaks up to further their point significantly in half the time. Obviously you can see now that I don't like people who add too much vocabulary into their speech, but at the same time I'm making a conscious effort to understand that this is just how some people, like you Torti, just want to express themselves. In the end all I can say is, you're never going to be widely accepted with this way of talking, no matter what the setting is, unless of course you've somehow landed a sweet seat for lunch with a bunch of scholars with published work. "Why doesn't he simply express himself in a way so that everyone can understand?" It's not possible. It's harder for me to simplify it than to make it even more complex or add to it. When I'm on the spot and feel the need to portray what I want to argue or think, it comes out in a literary mass that makes sense if written, but becomes too much to an average listener. It's not higher quality, it's the wrong quality of text at the wrong quantitiy. Everything you're saying in P1 and P2 are right and I'm pretty sure that's what they're thinking (justifiably). They have every right to be, but it's not an intentioned or effort-full attempt to express more than I want, it's just how I want it to be said or how I would say it if asked plainly in a paper. I really want to record the next time I go! It's because your attitude towards your intelligence is general is over-inflated, as the long post I copied points out. There are enough perfect SAT scoring students to fill the top universities in the US every year. There are perfect scoring students on every graduate school test yearly. There are people who graduate undergrad at 17 with perfect grades. Anyone can be smart or intelligent and know it. Relying on that like a crutch is what some people would call "taking yourself too seriously." Be succint. Communicate your points in the best manner. Intelligence means nothing if you can't communicate your point to a mass audience. Basically you just need to sit back and realize that you're not hot shit. You may claim you don't think you are, but if you're finding yourself in these situations like you posted about, it's because of the aforementioned issues with self-identity and inflation of ego. I trust you don't need to ask why I have such experience in this realm I think you're misassociating dilligence to understand learned material and general intelligence. Torti just say "You sir have misunderstood my post". Maybe the way you're trying to express yourself is too thorough, I don't think it's good to hold people's hands so that they will understand every single point in your thoughts to the comma. It's possible to express your yourself in a more simple manner, you just need to work on it. I'm trying to hit two birds with one stone. You say: "You misunderstood my post" He, I assure you, is going to ask: "How so?" The original skips that whole thing. How about "You misunderstood my post, you're confusing book smarts and general intelligence"? I mean it's the same length, but rewritten so it's easier to swallow. Yes, that sounds way better and so down-to-Earth :X
Eureka.
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On January 12 2012 11:15 Porcelain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 10:44 EternaLLegacy wrote:On January 12 2012 10:32 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:20 EternaLLegacy wrote:
You might just be dealing with idiots who can't conceptualize abstract arguments. It sounds like you want to debate people who simply cannot grasp what you're talking about because it doesn't fit into one of their prerecorded arguments. Perhaps, I actually enjoy that first line a lot, would have never articulated it that way. Even if they are idiots, it keeps the class light-hearted and keeps the discussion going. Putting in a snippety wise-ass is just aggravating and disruptive in the end, right or wrong. I just had a miserable experience in a philosophy class, where I was the only one who actually knew how to debate and discuss ideas using logic. The rest of the class tried talking about what they "felt" was the right answer, not how to logically deduce it. Naturally, after watching their arguments get torn apart without hesitation, they became extremely intimidated and just shut up completely for the rest of the semester. It made the class extremely boring because it was me explaining things 50% of the time or more, even though I wasn't even the TA. Go figure. I'm going through something similar in one of my classes this quarter. It's really awful. During my college career so far I've rarely experienced an intelligent (and well articulated) debate. They're so much fun. : / This blog and its comments are incredibly interesting. Love it! I'm all for U of TL. Torte: You know I love your writing, but you need to stop comma splicing. It's probably the only thing you do that bothers me. It's okay; I used to love commas too! This blog makes me wonder how you sound IRL compared to your writing. My assumption would be that you sound similar, but are probably a lot more wordy. You need to stream!
Yeah, I know what you mean. It kinda sucks and just makes me wonder where you can go to really get into conversations ):
U of TL!
commas are cool, the curl at the bottom below the words. It's so rebellious :B I sound nothing like I write, I find at least.
Very wordy, short-breathed ):
I do stream fyi, I used to at least.
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On January 12 2012 11:16 PetRockSteve wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:38 PetRockSteve wrote:On January 12 2012 09:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 09:21 KleineGeist wrote:
Would you give a few specific examples? As in, brief context behind and then your argument from your psychology example or another situation? I'm confused as to what you mean by "different," and slightly skeptical because in most situations where someone brings up a point and everyone reacts to it in the manner you describe, it's usually because it's a non sequitur or completely stupid. You do write intelligently and you seem to appraise situations very well, so I'm confused because it seems you would appraise your own situation well, too... so please, example? I'm trying to think of an example, but I don't feel I'm doing an accurate job of it. Let me try. Someone will say that they think powers and rational thought go together and that emotions is irrational and associated with women. I'll correct them and tell them: "I disagree and feel that power and emotionality are associated with one another through the approach of legitimate power such as charismatic leaders (Sarah Palin, Nixon, etc.) and that despite them being terrible people, they gained a legitimate form of power (of influence or other forms) by not only recognizing emotions that a collective society feels on general issues, but can also use those emotions to sway people in their favor. All in one sentence. One thing to remember is that as a spoken sentence becomes longer and more complex, it is more difficult to parse and understand. Simplifying the sentence will help. This is a discussion, correct? If so, another thing you could do is to phrase your example as a question. Your reply could then be, "But what about people like Sarah Palin or Nixon that gained power by recognizing and using people's emotions in their favor?" At the very least, the question makes your point and spurs further discussion. If you have the free time, checking out a book on rhetoric can help shape what you want to say to get better results. It also helps enforce the opinion that you expressed as some aspects try to use people's emotions and desires to influence opinion. Yes, 100% agreed. The longer it is, the harder it is to fully grasp as a whole concept or argument. Do you have a specific title for a book like that? And that question trick is good, instead of cutting the discussion short, you pass the beach ball around! I like it! It might seem like a challenge to others though :B I see that your question spurred another response from me. I believe the book I read was "Thank You for Arguing," which dealt a lot with rhetoric terms and ideas using discussions and debates in real-life situations. I'm not sure how directly it will apply to this situation, but I found that it has changed how I phrase some of my comments/questions/requests.
I'm writing it down now, thanks! Will definitely read! (I just finished a book about Narcissism!)
On January 12 2012 11:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
I like using big words and complex sentences with multiple appendages and some attempts at what resembles humour. Then I took a Philosophy of Economics class and got stumped by even bigger words and the fine lines between similar but different concepts. It was enlightening.
But yeah, find others to discuss "properly" with you and "dumb" it down a little for your classmates, try to only use big words when they are also used in the class material.
Also, start a word of the day blog. :D
Word of the day blog? How would I do that? Philosophy of Economics, what is that about?
On January 12 2012 11:19 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 10:57 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:46 Sinensis wrote:I dunno why this blog is so interesting to me...probably because my classes all hated me too. I like how you said you tried to go in like Michael Jackson and it fail, that's hilarious. On a similar note, yeah, maybe try going in like Bob Ross or Mister Rogers... seriously everyone adores Mister Rogers you can't go wrong. :D Haha, what did you do? I try to play upbeat music to keep me attentive during class, but I always resolve to Jazz T___T I dropped out my final semester and haven't gone back. So maybe my advice isn't the best, but it at least makes sense to me and hopefully isn't making anyone unhappy; that's all that really counts.
You should finish it up Brian Griffin of the good years.
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I get the same feeling sometimes as well.
Got to keep socializing and searching my brother. At least you got something out of this thread and hey LOOK!
PEOPLE!
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Russian Federation142 Posts
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Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come.
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On January 12 2012 11:25 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:15 Porcelain wrote:On January 12 2012 10:44 EternaLLegacy wrote:On January 12 2012 10:32 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:20 EternaLLegacy wrote:
You might just be dealing with idiots who can't conceptualize abstract arguments. It sounds like you want to debate people who simply cannot grasp what you're talking about because it doesn't fit into one of their prerecorded arguments. Perhaps, I actually enjoy that first line a lot, would have never articulated it that way. Even if they are idiots, it keeps the class light-hearted and keeps the discussion going. Putting in a snippety wise-ass is just aggravating and disruptive in the end, right or wrong. I just had a miserable experience in a philosophy class, where I was the only one who actually knew how to debate and discuss ideas using logic. The rest of the class tried talking about what they "felt" was the right answer, not how to logically deduce it. Naturally, after watching their arguments get torn apart without hesitation, they became extremely intimidated and just shut up completely for the rest of the semester. It made the class extremely boring because it was me explaining things 50% of the time or more, even though I wasn't even the TA. Go figure. I'm going through something similar in one of my classes this quarter. It's really awful. During my college career so far I've rarely experienced an intelligent (and well articulated) debate. They're so much fun. : / This blog and its comments are incredibly interesting. Love it! I'm all for U of TL. Torte: You know I love your writing, but you need to stop comma splicing. It's probably the only thing you do that bothers me. It's okay; I used to love commas too! This blog makes me wonder how you sound IRL compared to your writing. My assumption would be that you sound similar, but are probably a lot more wordy. You need to stream! Yeah, I know what you mean. It kinda sucks and just makes me wonder where you can go to really get into conversations ): U of TL! commas are cool, the curl at the bottom below the words. It's so rebellious :B I sound nothing like I write, I find at least. Very wordy, short-breathed ): I do stream fyi, I used to at least.
I use a lot of punctuation when I write too. Unlike you, I sound like I type.
I have my reasons for that as well.
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On January 12 2012 11:28 serge wrote:
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Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come.
We're the Rugrats of University. Better than the newborn Anthropologists, not quite as elite as the Psychologists.
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On January 12 2012 11:30 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:28 serge wrote:
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Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come. We're the Rugrats of University. Better than the newborn Anthropologists, not quite as elite as the Psychologists.
Dear Pastamancer,
So toddlers are in your University? This explains everything! Why didn't you just start there? Man, you had me wondering what was going on in your school, now I understand everything. You need to stop stealing things from the teacher for once. Yes, stealing IS actually a bad thing! Also, don't speak when teacher is speaking! Manners are indeed important. NO EATING DURING CLASS UNLESS TEACHA SAYS SO! If you do, you will not end up a happy rugrat. GL HF DS KA GG DD :D. Also, what does :B mean?
edit: Also, consider testing your phone now before you try it in-class.
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On January 12 2012 11:26 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:16 PetRockSteve wrote:On January 12 2012 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:38 PetRockSteve wrote:On January 12 2012 09:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 09:21 KleineGeist wrote:
Would you give a few specific examples? As in, brief context behind and then your argument from your psychology example or another situation? I'm confused as to what you mean by "different," and slightly skeptical because in most situations where someone brings up a point and everyone reacts to it in the manner you describe, it's usually because it's a non sequitur or completely stupid. You do write intelligently and you seem to appraise situations very well, so I'm confused because it seems you would appraise your own situation well, too... so please, example? I'm trying to think of an example, but I don't feel I'm doing an accurate job of it. Let me try. Someone will say that they think powers and rational thought go together and that emotions is irrational and associated with women. I'll correct them and tell them: "I disagree and feel that power and emotionality are associated with one another through the approach of legitimate power such as charismatic leaders (Sarah Palin, Nixon, etc.) and that despite them being terrible people, they gained a legitimate form of power (of influence or other forms) by not only recognizing emotions that a collective society feels on general issues, but can also use those emotions to sway people in their favor. All in one sentence. One thing to remember is that as a spoken sentence becomes longer and more complex, it is more difficult to parse and understand. Simplifying the sentence will help. This is a discussion, correct? If so, another thing you could do is to phrase your example as a question. Your reply could then be, "But what about people like Sarah Palin or Nixon that gained power by recognizing and using people's emotions in their favor?" At the very least, the question makes your point and spurs further discussion. If you have the free time, checking out a book on rhetoric can help shape what you want to say to get better results. It also helps enforce the opinion that you expressed as some aspects try to use people's emotions and desires to influence opinion. Yes, 100% agreed. The longer it is, the harder it is to fully grasp as a whole concept or argument. Do you have a specific title for a book like that? And that question trick is good, instead of cutting the discussion short, you pass the beach ball around! I like it! It might seem like a challenge to others though :B I see that your question spurred another response from me. I believe the book I read was "Thank You for Arguing," which dealt a lot with rhetoric terms and ideas using discussions and debates in real-life situations. I'm not sure how directly it will apply to this situation, but I found that it has changed how I phrase some of my comments/questions/requests. I'm writing it down now, thanks! Will definitely read! (I just finished a book about Narcissism!) Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
I like using big words and complex sentences with multiple appendages and some attempts at what resembles humour. Then I took a Philosophy of Economics class and got stumped by even bigger words and the fine lines between similar but different concepts. It was enlightening.
But yeah, find others to discuss "properly" with you and "dumb" it down a little for your classmates, try to only use big words when they are also used in the class material.
Also, start a word of the day blog. :D Word of the day blog? How would I do that? Philosophy of Economics, what is that about? Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:19 Sinensis wrote:On January 12 2012 10:57 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 10:46 Sinensis wrote:I dunno why this blog is so interesting to me...probably because my classes all hated me too. I like how you said you tried to go in like Michael Jackson and it fail, that's hilarious. On a similar note, yeah, maybe try going in like Bob Ross or Mister Rogers... seriously everyone adores Mister Rogers you can't go wrong. :D Haha, what did you do? I try to play upbeat music to keep me attentive during class, but I always resolve to Jazz T___T I dropped out my final semester and haven't gone back. So maybe my advice isn't the best, but it at least makes sense to me and hopefully isn't making anyone unhappy; that's all that really counts. You should finish it up Brian Griffin of the good years.
How would you do a WOTD blog? Doesn't that kind of explain itself? A new word blog every day! It even has its own acronym now...
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On January 12 2012 11:30 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:28 serge wrote:
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Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come. We're the Rugrats of University. Better than the newborn Anthropologists, not quite as elite as the Psychologists.
what do ya mean by that???
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..And we can all contribute our thoughts and what sentence we used the word in that day! Fun!
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lol
Yeah there are many websites out there that do WOTD.
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It could be cute.
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On January 12 2012 11:38 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 11:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 12 2012 11:28 serge wrote:
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Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come. We're the Rugrats of University. Better than the newborn Anthropologists, not quite as elite as the Psychologists. what do ya mean by that???
It's a running gag between faculties. Think of it as a pyramid.
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