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South
Profile Joined November 2010
80 Posts
January 12 2012 02:48 GMT
#141
You seem like a tryhard, no offense. Truly intelligent people are just intelligent...everyone either knows it or can sense it. Making a blog post like this just seems to reinforce your feeling of intellectual superiority, but you're attempting to rationalize it by not putting them down. In reality it feels almost like you're calling them the "wrong kind of smart".

My advice is just get over yourself, relax and learn to enjoy people. Most people aren't going to be judgmental of you, so do them the same kind service. Laugh at a fart joke. You're not the second coming of Einstein.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 12 2012 02:50 GMT
#142
"she cut me off and said that I didn't have to talk in class. She said it quickly and disdainly. I apologized for what I felt I sometimes killed the conversations (there were many short bursts of silences after I said my piece) and she interrupted again to ensure I didn't have to talk, it wasn't sympathetic either, just plainly and the intonation was doward rather than inquisitvely upward."

Teacher should be fired.
shikata ga nai
South
Profile Joined November 2010
80 Posts
January 12 2012 02:54 GMT
#143
On January 12 2012 09:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm thinking of spending more time explaining my viewpoint rather than just leaving them dryly to figure it out on their own.


Do you realize how condescending this sounds? If you have trouble making friends...this might be part of the reason why. Consider spending more time trying to be more socially intelligent.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2012 02:55 GMT
#144
On January 12 2012 11:50 sam!zdat wrote:
"she cut me off and said that I didn't have to talk in class. She said it quickly and disdainly. I apologized for what I felt I sometimes killed the conversations (there were many short bursts of silences after I said my piece) and she interrupted again to ensure I didn't have to talk, it wasn't sympathetic either, just plainly and the intonation was doward rather than inquisitvely upward."

Teacher should be fired.


No, because she wasn't condescending but reassuring the idea that I don't need to talk if I dont want to (or felt I was killing the conversation).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 12 2012 02:57 GMT
#145
Oh. I assumed that disdainly meant disdainfully, which is a condescension type word.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2012 02:59 GMT
#146
On January 12 2012 11:54 South wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 09:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm thinking of spending more time explaining my viewpoint rather than just leaving them dryly to figure it out on their own.


Do you realize how condescending this sounds? If you have trouble making friends...this might be part of the reason why. Consider spending more time trying to be more socially intelligent.


I don't have trouble making friends O_O
And it doesn't sound condescending at all, it sounds like I'm considerate and taking into account that I have a poor way of making properly-worded arguments and should elaborate further.

If you mean leaving them dryly to figure it out on their own, then I'm not sure how you mean. I said my argument, I expect them to figure how to interpret the statement and refute it.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2012 03:00 GMT
#147
I've banned South from my blog because I felt his approach was overly-aggressive for a point he was trying to make (but made assumptions that weren't accurate or incited ideas that weren't fit).

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2012 03:03 GMT
#148
On January 12 2012 11:44 StarStruck wrote:
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On January 12 2012 11:38 Roe wrote:
On January 12 2012 11:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
On January 12 2012 11:28 serge wrote:
@_@

Nothing like a sociology class to boost your ego. Are you smart, or is everyone around you a muttering idiot? Philosophy, here we come.


We're the Rugrats of University. Better than the newborn Anthropologists, not quite as elite as the Psychologists.

what do ya mean by that???


It's a running gag between faculties. Think of it as a pyramid.


Hard sciences
l
l
V
Social Sciences in my view.
l
l
V
Liberal Arts.

Within Social Sciences things get messy :B I wish SirJolt was here but he doesn't even do statistics pfffffft

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
serge
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Russian Federation142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:06:04
January 12 2012 03:03 GMT
#149
Communicating solely with anthropologists, sociologists and psychologists tends to turn you into a hillbilly. Make some friends in the math/sciences/engineering departments. Hopefully that will show you that you're not such hot shit after all.

(I want more psychologist friends, they're so hot :'( Screw engineering)

E: That is a hazard of any occupation and is one of the ugly truths of this world. I feel that if people knew how narrow sighted and out of touch with reality they became in their little close knit circles of friends, they'd be nicer to everyone.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
January 12 2012 03:04 GMT
#150
On January 12 2012 11:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
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On January 12 2012 11:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
I like using big words and complex sentences with multiple appendages and some attempts at what resembles humour. Then I took a Philosophy of Economics class and got stumped by even bigger words and the fine lines between similar but different concepts. It was enlightening.

But yeah, find others to discuss "properly" with you and "dumb" it down a little for your classmates, try to only use big words when they are also used in the class material.

Also, start a word of the day blog. :D


Word of the day blog? How would I do that? Philosophy of Economics, what is that about?


So a big word or obscure word or just one that sounds funny. They do (well, now it's did. TT) it on a podcast I listen to (SarcasticGamer Brown) and it's often quite funny and they'd use it in all the wrong (and also right) ways http://nutella.sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28116 includes a few of them and more weird words that are making me lol.

Philosophy of Economics was about what should be the purpose of Econs (and other social sciences), whether it is an ends, a means to an end, how it should be conducted, what caveats are there, and examining some of the basic assumptions used throughout the subject and their real-world validity. Quite a lot of deep discussions and was very intriguing subject.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2012 03:05 GMT
#151
On January 12 2012 12:03 serge wrote:
Communicating solely with anthropologists, sociologists and psychologists tends to turn you into a hillbilly. Make some friends in the math/sciences/engineering departments. Hopefully that will show you that you're not such hot shit after all.

(I want more psychologist friends, they're so hot :'( Screw engineering)


All the babes are in Psychology.
There are a lot of computer science majors too, they're pretty cool too.

Most Math/Science and Engineering people are pretty quiet, they don't have to show off anything because they're in some tough shit pft :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Porcelain
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States218 Posts
January 12 2012 03:07 GMT
#152
Well, why do you believe you must leave them to "figure it out on their own?" Are the other students less intelligent than you? They might be. Your statement sounded a bit pretentious, but that's okay. You may be actually be smarter than them. There really isn't anything wrong with that. The only problem is how you're being perceived by others.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Porcelain_Sam
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#153
On January 12 2012 12:04 Mobius_1 wrote:
Philosophy of Economics was about what should be the purpose of Econs (and other social sciences), whether it is an ends, a means to an end, how it should be conducted, what caveats are there, and examining some of the basic assumptions used throughout the subject and their real-world validity. Quite a lot of deep discussions and was very intriguing subject.


Basically all the things economists never ever think about.
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NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
January 12 2012 03:09 GMT
#154
I'd really be interested to hear how you come across in a spoken argument as through my studies and work over the past 2.5 years I've done a ton of discussion, albeit within electronic engineering. It sounds fascinating being intelligent yet not being able to put your points across to your peers. After reading your prose, god help you if you have to write a research paper for publication with strict formatting and page requirements.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:13:01
January 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#155
On January 12 2012 12:07 Porcelain wrote:
Well, why do you believe you must leave them to "figure it out on their own?" Are the other students less intelligent than you? They might be. Your statement sounded a bit pretentious, but that's okay. You may be actually be smarter than them. There really isn't anything wrong with that. The only problem is how you're being perceived by others.


I'm not smarter than them (if I felt so assured I was, why would I feel so conflicted and 2. why would I even bother speaking up knowing my own intelligence is above their's?). It does pretentious, I meant in the sense that instead of elaborating, I would just say what I felt was an accurate argument and leave them to figure out how to counter it. When I disagree or argue, I find my point of view to be right, thus it is up to them to show me where there are faults.

Is that a poor approach?

On January 12 2012 12:08 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 12:04 Mobius_1 wrote:
Philosophy of Economics was about what should be the purpose of Econs (and other social sciences), whether it is an ends, a means to an end, how it should be conducted, what caveats are there, and examining some of the basic assumptions used throughout the subject and their real-world validity. Quite a lot of deep discussions and was very intriguing subject.


Basically all the things economists never ever think about.


Ha! Foucault and Marx would disagree!

On January 12 2012 12:09 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
I'd really be interested to hear how you come across in a spoken argument as through my studies and work over the past 2.5 years I've done a ton of discussion, albeit within electronic engineering. It sounds fascinating being intelligent yet not being able to put your points across to your peers. After reading your prose, god help you if you have to write a research paper for publication with strict formatting and page requirements.


You want a sample of my writing?
As someone said before, you're not smart if you can't show others why. :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
serge
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Russian Federation142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:12:42
January 12 2012 03:12 GMT
#156
On January 12 2012 12:09 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
After reading your prose, god help you if you have to write a research paper for publication with strict formatting and page requirements.

LOL
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:20:14
January 12 2012 03:15 GMT
#157
On January 12 2012 12:04 Mobius_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 11:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
I like using big words and complex sentences with multiple appendages and some attempts at what resembles humour. Then I took a Philosophy of Economics class and got stumped by even bigger words and the fine lines between similar but different concepts. It was enlightening.

But yeah, find others to discuss "properly" with you and "dumb" it down a little for your classmates, try to only use big words when they are also used in the class material.

Also, start a word of the day blog. :D


Word of the day blog? How would I do that? Philosophy of Economics, what is that about?


Let's get this gasconade blog started considering we're all here.

Word of the day is oenophile (n): a wine drinker.

Torte is TL's resident oenophile. Cheers!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:16:52
January 12 2012 03:16 GMT
#158
Hm, 7 good pages of discussion then ill-intended people.
Good run :3.

I don't think it's fair to judge someone who writes something personally and reflect that on their professional or educational writing work. It's a bit obnoxious and rude.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
serge
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Russian Federation142 Posts
January 12 2012 03:26 GMT
#159
On January 12 2012 12:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hm, 7 good pages of discussion then ill-intended people.
Good run :3.

I don't think it's fair to judge someone who writes something personally and reflect that on their professional or educational writing work. It's a bit obnoxious and rude.

But how can a drama blog be enjoyed without drama? If you decide to post on the internet, might as well grow thicker carapace to good and bad humored trolling.

---

I've realized today that the TL blog section is extremely bearable and fun, unlike the rest of the boards, BW section excluded. I'm going to make a blog post about some of the atrocious posters that infest the other boards, not unlike sc2 zerg, in the future.
I am Malkovich.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 03:30:08
January 12 2012 03:26 GMT
#160
On January 12 2012 12:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
Ha! Foucault and Marx would disagree!


Oh no. I'm a Marxist actually (i.e. I study literature, and my theoretical affiliation is with the Marxist tradition). Marx and Foucault are both theorists, not economists in the relevant sense.

edit: I suppose you could say that they are both philosophers of economics. Marx a little more than Foucault; I'm not aware that Foucault really dealt with economics so much as discourse, although I'll admit I'm not that familiar with Foucault outside of the The History of Sexuality and stuff like the panopticon, etc...
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