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United States1719 Posts
So, I think I have a lot of anger pelt up and want to fight someone. I have never gotten into a single fist fight growing up, which is rare in Korea where fights break out every other day in school. I'm not a macho guy and people generally say I am nice, but when I get upset I have sudden urges of hitting something, preferably the person that made me angry in the first place. I enjoy watching contact sports like American football, or ice hockey, but I never got into sports growing up because my mom made me a goody-two-shoes Korean and restricted my non-studying time. Apparently in America, you can go to jail for fighting someone, so I started thinking of ways to fight someone without being incarcerated, and MMA recently caught my interest.
I have no idea how to get started. Are there gyms that let in casuals like me who just wanna learn and spar other casuals? I definitely don't want to get seriously into it, just something that I can keep as a hobby, maybe investing like an hour or two every day. I don't want to just learn a martial art because when I was younger I used to learn taekwondo and it wasn't really fun... Had to learn these coordinated move sets and practice them to get to the next belt... I only enjoyed the occasional sparring I got to do with my classmates, but my mom made me quit so I had more time to study lol Is there something that is similar to what I am looking for or am I out of luck here?
 
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You can get one of those big bags and just let your rage out on it. Or you can take some kickboxing/boxing classes and fight some people.
At my gym there are the bags where i see lots of people just going at them. If you want a real fight, just go to a bar and start something and let me know the results 
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try a beginners class* , google in your area for clubs , or check local gyms coz they might have classes held there
i wanna do this too but i figure i will get wrecked (and injured lol) so im holding off until i have some basic strength and fitness from gym :/
*probably everyone in a "normal" class could lift you up with one hand (unless you are already trained
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if you fight people in martial arts simply cause you're angry then all that will happen is that you will get hurt. Find some way of venting your energy without hurting other people. If you learn to take out all your agressions by beating soneone upjust think what will happen when you get a partner and a child/children.
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United States1719 Posts
On December 22 2011 22:48 Hynda wrote:
if you fight people in martial arts simply cause you're angry then all that will happen is that you will get hurt. Find some way of venting your energy without hurting other people. If you learn to take out all your agressions by beating soneone upjust think what will happen when you get a partner and a child/children.
haha i have my ways of coping with anger but I guess i've just always wanted to experience a fight, minus the going to jail part... I also want to learn a bit in case I absolutely have to defend myself in the future.. but yea thanks for input, def don't wanna beat my wife and kids considering I grew up being beaten haha
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I've trained off and on for almost 9 years now in a smattering of different styles. I've taught beginner classes and sparred with professional fighters.
Based on your OP, I would not let you on the mat to spar.
Sparring is a training exercise that you enter into with a partner. It's not a fight. It's practice.
Yes, it can get very intense, but that's only for the higher level guys.
You need a different outlet.
I would certainly let you on the mat to train. Punches, kicks, grappling and joint manipulation. But until you can take control of your emotions, you have no business sparring.
You'll only end up hurting yourself, or someone else, and will probably get kicked out of the gym in the process.
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United States1719 Posts
On December 22 2011 22:58 MrBitter wrote:
I've trained off and on for almost 9 years now in a smattering of different styles. I've taught beginner classes and sparred with professional fighters.
Based on your OP, I would not let you on the mat to spar.
Sparring is a training exercise that you enter into with a partner. It's not a fight. It's practice.
Yes, it can get very intense, but that's only for the higher level guys.
You need a different outlet.
I would certainly let you on the mat to train. Punches, kicks, grappling and joint manipulation. But until you can take control of your emotions, you have no business sparring.
You'll only end up hurting yourself, or someone else, and will probably get kicked out of the gym in the process.
i see... thanks for the input! much appreciated 
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you told him what NOT to say hahaha
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United States5162 Posts
On December 22 2011 22:58 MrBitter wrote:
I've trained off and on for almost 9 years now in a smattering of different styles. I've taught beginner classes and sparred with professional fighters.
Based on your OP, I would not let you on the mat to spar.
Sparring is a training exercise that you enter into with a partner. It's not a fight. It's practice.
Yes, it can get very intense, but that's only for the higher level guys.
You need a different outlet.
I would certainly let you on the mat to train. Punches, kicks, grappling and joint manipulation. But until you can take control of your emotions, you have no business sparring.
You'll only end up hurting yourself, or someone else, and will probably get kicked out of the gym in the process.
Agree with this. I also trained competitively in TKD and taking out anger during sparring is not the way to go. Take out anger on a bag, not a person. That being said, competitive sparring is exhilarating and and I think it'd be worth it for you to give it a try if you go into it with the right frame of mind.
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I'm not gonna lie. There's a stereotype that says Koreans have extremely short tempers (I'm Korean American and I can attest to this). The fact that fights broke out every day at school in Korea makes me wonder how true this is 0.o.
In my opinion, rage induced by short tempers will not be sated by fighting sports. It would be good none the less to learn something as a hobby, but I think you should take the time to assess your anger or desire to hit people separately from whatever you take up as a hobby. You don't want to find that learning how to do TKD simply gives you a means to dish out the hurt when it comes to being angry or mad at someone.
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In America we have a lot of sparing gyms. You go in say I just want to learn something like Jiu Jitsu or boxing. The thing is MMA is everything so you will have to learn more then just 1 style of fighting. :D however I used to go to a gym where they would let anyone come in and just roll with them teach them new things, also the best thing is kick boxing if you want to really punch someone because Jiu Jitsu is more of rolling and not going 100% you are not trying to hurt the person you are just doing more and more moves with them. However in Kick Boxing you almost go 100% just because you need to when you spare. :D just my thoughts if that helps.
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I have similar anger problems although I got in a lot of fights at school. I dont get in fights anymore, so when my rage builds up I need to release it somehow or it makes this painful knot in my chest and I would unintentionally hurt (not physically but maybe emotionally) someone I love. But the best "vents" I found, were not getting into more fights or anything like that. Working out is a great vent, punching bag, reading (seriously), running, deep breathing, throwing a football, building something (think lego).
If you go into an mma class because your angry, you arent helping yourself at all. You will end up possibly hurting someone and getting kicked out.
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9th street. 10 oclock.. be there
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On December 22 2011 22:58 MrBitter wrote:
I've trained off and on for almost 9 years now in a smattering of different styles. I've taught beginner classes and sparred with professional fighters.
Based on your OP, I would not let you on the mat to spar.
Sparring is a training exercise that you enter into with a partner. It's not a fight. It's practice.
Yes, it can get very intense, but that's only for the higher level guys.
You need a different outlet.
I would certainly let you on the mat to train. Punches, kicks, grappling and joint manipulation. But until you can take control of your emotions, you have no business sparring.
You'll only end up hurting yourself, or someone else, and will probably get kicked out of the gym in the process.
Students at my gym who were overly aggressive got matched up against more experience fighters or the instructors. They always caught on pretty fast.
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Nerds are seriously the angriest people in the world.
Get trolled enough on the internet and you're bound to snap one day!
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All you need is an imaginary friend who looks like Brad Pitt whom you can fight, eventually other people will join you and start a club about it
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On December 22 2011 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 22:58 MrBitter wrote:
I've trained off and on for almost 9 years now in a smattering of different styles. I've taught beginner classes and sparred with professional fighters.
Based on your OP, I would not let you on the mat to spar.
Sparring is a training exercise that you enter into with a partner. It's not a fight. It's practice.
Yes, it can get very intense, but that's only for the higher level guys.
You need a different outlet.
I would certainly let you on the mat to train. Punches, kicks, grappling and joint manipulation. But until you can take control of your emotions, you have no business sparring.
You'll only end up hurting yourself, or someone else, and will probably get kicked out of the gym in the process. Students at my gym who were overly aggressive got matched up against more experience fighters or the instructors. They always caught on pretty fast.
That's an approach we took at mine to. Experienced guys always started a session with "I'm going to go as hard as you do."
But I don't think it's the right approach. A lot of people got knocked out unneccessarily.
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Honestly any good MMA gym is not going to let you spar without knowing you can control yourself. Like MrBitter and emporer said if you tried to spar hard at a beginner level they would put you with someone experienced. Also when you say MMA thats an ambiguous word, that could include wrestling (greco or olympic) BJJ, Muay Thai, boxing etc... From my experience (8 years of martial arts including TKD :p) I would recommend going somewhere and learn these martial arts separately then when you get to a proficient level with each meld them together.
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Look at all these people telling you to avoid sports as a means of venting. 0_o
EDIT : Okay seriously what is it about the OPs post that has everyone thinking he's obviously too mentally unstable for sparring? There is nothing wrong with anything he said he just wants a full contact hobby.
Sign up at an MMA gym, and make sure your instructor has fought before (google him and watch his fights). Also if you're more into striking than grappling a boxing gym is another great way to stay in shape and build massive confidence.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On December 22 2011 22:45 FFGenerations wrote:
try a beginners class* , google in your area for clubs , or check local gyms coz they might have classes held there
i wanna do this too but i figure i will get wrecked (and injured lol) so im holding off until i have some basic strength and fitness from gym :/
*probably everyone in a "normal" class could lift you up with one hand (unless you are already trained
I duno what US MMA gyms look like, but there's plenty of people who do MMA just for fun in Sweden... Not everyone looks like a heavyweight champion.
On December 23 2011 01:24 Fallians wrote:
Honestly any good MMA gym is not going to let you spar without knowing you can control yourself. Like MrBitter and emporer said if you tried to spar hard at a beginner level they would put you with someone experienced. Also when you say MMA thats an ambiguous word, that could include wrestling (greco or olympic) BJJ, Muay Thai, boxing etc... From my experience (8 years of martial arts including TKD :p) I would recommend going somewhere and learn these martial arts separately then when you get to a proficient level with each meld them together.
There's nothing ambiguous about the word MMA in todays day and age... And there's really very little reason to not just sign up for an MMA gym if there's a decent one available.
But yeah, if you're going to angrily sparr you'd have to consider whether that would actually be a comfortable experience for whomever you're sparring with... It can be competitive but shouldnt be angry.
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No respectable martial arts school will let you spar with beginners, ever. If you really insist, though, they might let you spar with intermediate students. And those will kick your ass 
There is also a worldwide club called the brotherhood of the dog, where people just kick the crap out of each other, sometimes using sticks and other melee weapons. Maybe that could be something for you.
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P.s. I think training MMA in your shoes is an excellent idea btw. Nothing calms a man down as thoroughly as reaching the outer limits of exhaustion and going just a little bit past them every week. Sparring with a decent fighter, going balls to the wall and getting thrashed is also a very humbling and character building experience I'd say. Go for it!
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Have you considered knitting? Every time I get mad I knit for 20 minutes or so, it makes you focus on something else and if you get mad enough times you get a nice sweater out of it.
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Start with running and stretching. If you are still angry, maybe some counseling.
I've only been in one fist fight in my life, and I won (in 2nd grade), and I am way less physically strong compared to most other men, so I want to keep my 100% win ratio. This means avoiding fights for me.3
I used to have a friend who, in college, used to get in fights at parties (he was some sort of black belt). One night he was beaten to death by another guy I knew (yeah, fucked up). That kind of put things in perspective for me.
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United States1719 Posts
haha thanks everyone for the replies! i like how quickly it became an anger management thread xD Maybe I phrased it the wrong way in the OP: I'm not an angry savage wanting to beat the living shit out of someone; I want to experience and get better at fighting in a controlled environment. I feel like the contact aspect will help me relieve any built up stress more directly, but I don't necessarily want to relieve my anger by beating someone up. Thanks for the anger management tips, though; I do try my best to keep my temper in check by doing things like working out, watching movies or snowboarding. I also receive professional counseling once a week.
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On December 23 2011 03:02 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 22:45 FFGenerations wrote:
try a beginners class* , google in your area for clubs , or check local gyms coz they might have classes held there
i wanna do this too but i figure i will get wrecked (and injured lol) so im holding off until i have some basic strength and fitness from gym :/
*probably everyone in a "normal" class could lift you up with one hand (unless you are already trained I duno what US MMA gyms look like, but there's plenty of people who do MMA just for fun in Sweden... Not everyone looks like a heavyweight champion. Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 01:24 Fallians wrote:
Honestly any good MMA gym is not going to let you spar without knowing you can control yourself. Like MrBitter and emporer said if you tried to spar hard at a beginner level they would put you with someone experienced. Also when you say MMA thats an ambiguous word, that could include wrestling (greco or olympic) BJJ, Muay Thai, boxing etc... From my experience (8 years of martial arts including TKD :p) I would recommend going somewhere and learn these martial arts separately then when you get to a proficient level with each meld them together. There's nothing ambiguous about the word MMA in todays day and age... And there's really very little reason to not just sign up for an MMA gym if there's a decent one available. But yeah, if you're going to angrily sparr you'd have to consider whether that would actually be a comfortable experience for whomever you're sparring with... It can be competitive but shouldnt be angry.
There have been guys who come to the gym and think their badass, right? like a couple of guys had been in the military, and rolled too hard on the mat, or striked too hard during warm-ups. They got paired up with the more... experienced guys in the class who decided to not take it easy on them. They either learned their lesson or never showed up again.
You don't go into the gym to hurt people. haha If you do, it happens the other way around That's how they keep it a safe environment.
Happy sparring! And know that the more skilled guys want you to learn safely.
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i go to this one place...
but sadly rule 1 and 2 of it state that i cant tell you about it.
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I'm pretty surprised that no one has yet suggested sparring with friends. You really don't need to go to any gym. Just find some willing friends and get some boxing gloves.
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