brood war is dead, get over it.

shitty graphics
shitty ai
shitty maps

i think its silly to have 1v1 rts (ignore all the pros that do it and such)

(just for the record I actually LOVE bw, just trying to sound like OP)

also they one thing op mentions often is the graphics, im sorry but graphics DO NOT make the game better, I'm sick of the xbox generation (12-16 years old now) saying that graphics actually matter...back when i started gaming you had dots for your character and if you were lucky your enemy actually looked like what it was supposed to be, get over graphics and grow up

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

December 20 2011 20:02 GMT

#63

Quake lives on through the niche community just like other games that are considered dead. Will it go main stream no sadly.

On December 21 2011 04:54 Sega92 wrote:
brood war is dead, get over it.

shitty graphics
shitty ai
shitty maps

i think its silly to have 1v1 rts (ignore all the pros that do it and such)

(just for the record I actually LOVE bw, just trying to sound like OP)

also they one thing op mentions often is the graphics, im sorry buy graphics DO NOT make the game better, I'm sick of the xbox generation (12-16 years old now) saying that graphics actually matter...back when i started gaming you had dots for your character and if you were lucky your enemy actually looked like what it was supposed to be, get over graphics and grow up

Don't forget we had onion's around our belts back then as well. Those dots looked like what they were supposed to be back then and they still do now.

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This was the first strategy game I played.

Konaa

103 Posts

December 20 2011 20:09 GMT

#64

On December 20 2011 23:10 Stratos wrote:
Interesting blog post. No arguments, no new point of view, not funny, nothing. You just vomited a random post full of hate and disrespect against people trying hard to preserve what they love. Why? Is this a concealed cry for help?

Cool your jets, mr. armchair psychologist. He was just getting annoyed by people trying to revive something he sees as dead.

pr0bez

United States50 Posts

December 20 2011 20:30 GMT

#65

Just because it's too hard for you to play means it sucks?

Bibbit

Canada5377 Posts

December 20 2011 20:35 GMT

#66

I'm not usually one to throw around the phrase "objectively stupid" since it's kinda bold, but I feel like this calls for it.

Th OP (the content, not the guy who wrote it

) is objectively stupid. There. : )

pikaaarrr :3

United States593 Posts

December 20 2011 20:43 GMT

#67

On December 20 2011 22:40 Jh wrote:
quake is incredibly fun to watch.
it looks great.
it may not be popular again.
1v1 fps is a great play mode.
it's interesting and fun to watch. you simply don't understand what map control and timing means when it comes to quake.

QFT...until you try playing quake, you don't realize a) how freaking amazing they are at aiming and b) how hard it is to keep track of timings, knowing the map, knowing where your opponent might be...

it's really similar to bw to be honest, in terms of how difficult the game is. seeing pro's hit that ridiculous rail gives me similar nerd chills to an epic reaver hit, or jangbi storms (maybe jangbi storms is pushing it a bit :p)

altered

Switzerland646 Posts

December 20 2011 21:06 GMT

#68

For me quake represents what was once great about shooters and what went wrong with many modern shooters. This is why i hope it will never die.
Like classical music, although i dont listen to it everyday and there are modern genres i listen to more, i think its important for culture not to loose those old gems.

Newbistic

China2912 Posts

December 20 2011 21:07 GMT

#69

Oh children these days, born into a world of hate and not knowing better.

Spray

United States402 Posts

December 20 2011 21:20 GMT

#70

Who are you to decide that no one likes these types of games casted?

Brett

Australia3820 Posts

December 20 2011 21:31 GMT

#71

HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

This blog makes me.... Ugh..

oBlade

United States5582 Posts

December 20 2011 21:39 GMT

#72

My sole objection to Quake is that it makes me physically ill (motion sickness). It didn't become a classic because everyone bitched at its graphics. It has great gameplay. Duels couldn't be easier to follow. You can't have a game with fewer than 2 people playing, and if you can't follow a simple duel then you won't be able to follow any team game, unless it's something cartoony probably. Quake is fun regardless of what company is trying to sell how many copies of whatever latest, shiniest title they factoried out of their studio.

gurrpp

United States437 Posts

December 20 2011 21:55 GMT

#73

On December 20 2011 23:38 dacthehork wrote:

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Its not against the game

It's against the idea of bringing it on mlg/dreamhacks and forcing it on people when it's a "dead-end" route for a game far past its prime.

you can still enjoy it and watch the sidestream at dreamhack or w.e but the idea it's coming back is silly.

Dreamhack/mlg(and since when did mlg even have quake?) are not exclusively sc2 tournaments. Quake has just as much right to be on the mainstage as sc2, though I do agree that the way they scheduled quake as a half time show is pretty dumb. I don't like it when there's sc2 between my quake and my sf4. You don't have to watch the games you don't like. Just leave the stream on so you can see when sc2 is back and go do something else.

You strike me as someone who just jumps on the next big thing, as opposed to someone who is genuinely passionate about the game they play/watch. If you truly were passionate about your game, then you would understand that its not always about having a big crowd cheering for your game. If you are truly passionate about your game, you try to share that passion and educate people on what you do. Have respect for that, at least. As long as there are 2 people willing to play some quake, it will live on.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

December 20 2011 22:15 GMT

#74

I will keep being impressed by people hitting a shot the size of a frigging pencil across the fucking map onto a tiny character.

....

and have like 70% or more accuracy in doing so.

Ow yeah and 2GD is just fucking awesome but thats not really the game.

Stratos

Czech Republic6104 Posts

December 20 2011 22:50 GMT

#75

On December 21 2011 05:09 Konaa wrote:

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Cool your jets, mr. armchair psychologist. He was just getting annoyed by people trying to revive something he sees as dead.

Oh thanks I guess that in fact does make sense. Next time I'm not sure about someone's motives, can I pm you?

Soyuz

Hong Kong996 Posts

December 21 2011 04:59 GMT

#76

This blog made me cry, the quake formula/style of fps is still easily one of the best there is out there...it's like the SC2 of FPS

BeMannerDuPenner

Germany5638 Posts

December 21 2011 05:08 GMT

#77

On December 21 2011 13:59 Soyuz wrote:
This blog made me cry, the quake formula/style of fps is still easily one of the best there is out there...it's like the broodwar of FPS

fixed

but agree. literally all other fps released today are shit. the skill and depth of a proper q2/q3a (cpma) duel will most likely never be reached again.

its sad that the grandfather of ALL competive fps has to take shit like this blog nowadays. but sure, once the last really competive games die and all you can watch is pointless playerhype soaps you call esports nowadays then maybe you realize what is lost with games like quake(live) dying.

skipgamer

Australia701 Posts

December 21 2011 07:11 GMT

#78

On December 21 2011 14:08 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:

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dont forget quake1! Dm4 was the first competitive fps map I played and was a map I'll never forget, the mega was in such a perfect position... You go for it, and youre basically dead... Good times.

practicing on frogbot only to dialup to some euro server with 400 ping and still stay on par with KD, oh the memories :D

Kids these days and their halos and xbox lives, no idea what it was like "back in the day"

Velr

Switzerland10698 Posts

December 21 2011 08:13 GMT

#79

I was more into UT and most of all Half Life Death Match guy, which both just were more fun to play "casually" but at least HLDM was clearly the worse "competetive" game (but so much fun).
The thing about Quake is (i played a bit Quake 3, never really serious but i could handle a nightmare bot in a 1on1 on a map witheout rails. When playing against a truly good friend the score most of the time looked like 10 to -5

).
Even whiteout being able to Rocket jump or even try half the stuff the guys in these Vids do I can see that it's WTFAMAZAING what they do.

I get none of that when i watch Halo or Whateverbullshitnewsschoolshooter... There just is none of all this in them, they are just slow.. slow... slow.

marttorn

Norway5211 Posts

December 21 2011 08:54 GMT

#80

Would a link to the "it's ok to not like things, it's ok, but don't be a dick about it" video suffice for a response to this blog?