• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:20
CEST 07:20
KST 14:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202530RSL Season 1 - Final Week8[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams2Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster Why doesnt SC2 scene costream tournaments
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 521 users

Quake is Dead, get over it - Page 5

Blogs > dacthehork
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Pecul
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden116 Posts
December 21 2011 20:49 GMT
#81
On December 21 2011 01:34 HackBenjamin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 01:26 Pecul wrote:
I've never played Quake and I don't know if the Quake is is dying or not. But I agree with that it was not fun to watch. Too fast, confusing and not really something I would watch for more than 10 minutes.


How was it confusing though? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Two guys get guns and fight, one guy dies, the other guy wins.


It was confusing due to my lack of knowledge of the game, like items, map, weapon effect, game mechanics (like why did someone's hp and armor keep ticking down by 1)

crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
December 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#82
Then that's your problem and not something wrong with the game. That's like saying starcraft is boring to watch because I don't know why they are getting minerals.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 21:36:11
December 21 2011 21:35 GMT
#83
I'm going to guess the OP has no clue about all the ins and outs of what makes games like quake actually competitive. It isn't just because they are fast moving and shooting at each other you know. I know my gaming friends that don't play SC2 think it is boring to watch because they don't understand it like someone who plays it does. Maybe you are just too closed minded to notice the depth.

I remember watching Unreal Tournament 2003/2004 was some of the most fun I've had spectating a video game. I don't know where you are coming from saying 1v1 FPS aren't fun to watch.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
December 21 2011 22:36 GMT
#84
TF2 >> Quake. Stay mad haters
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 19:43:49
December 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#85
On December 22 2011 07:36 See.Blue wrote:
TF2 >> Quake. Stay mad haters


One is a 1v1, one is a team game. Maybe TF2 is better than Quake, but that doesn't mean Quake isn't an awesome 1v1 game.
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
December 22 2011 00:12 GMT
#86
I love TF2 with all my heart.

But Quake is a gift from above, and deserves to be compared only with other heavenly gifts, of which, sadly, TF2 is not.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 00:17:06
December 22 2011 00:16 GMT
#87
Deathmatch, be it 1on 1 or free for all, is the only type of FPS games I still enjoy.

I played god only knows how much hours of Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat and other assorted FPS games. But at the end of the day, Deathmatch is the only thing remotely quick enough to be fun anymore. It's the only thing that brings me a thrill.

Quake is not dead. I agree that the graphics DO affect my enjoyment of it, but if a new Deathmatch game came out, I would be all over it. I played UT3 for a while; it's just a shame no one else did, but it was a ton of fun.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
December 22 2011 01:30 GMT
#88
People say these things all the time of course it isn't dead. But it will take something bigger to rejuvenate it, Which probably means someone finding a way to reinvent the genre with a new game that still utilizes the same skill set.
My Photoshop stream (requests welcome) --> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304143
byce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States98 Posts
December 22 2011 15:45 GMT
#89
Your blog sucks.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 16:29:09
December 22 2011 16:28 GMT
#90
Stop trying to awaken the dead. Broodwar is dead, all these weird efforts by Sayle/Koreans are silly. It's not fun to watch, it's not going to make a recovery. Have you seen how Broodwar looks on stream? The Textures? Its a mess. It won't EVER be popular again and neither will this idea of 1v1 Broodwar. It's just not interesting or fun to watch. Plus the game is basically dead.

Please stop with these Broodwar shows, Broodwar mixed tournaments its just sad to see.

Sometimes you have to walk away from the dead horse and not try to ride it for the next 5 years.

Just a personal blog, I just think it's silly to imagine a 1v1 Broodwar RTS taking off anytime soon. BW died (ignore the SC2 crapfest) a long time ago and you dont see random people running teams + (insert popular game / event) here events so people can watch and say "wow that old graphically horrible looking game looks like it was interesting 10 years ago, now when will day9 tell me to do the fusion core dance and shout excitedly to entertain me?"

+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty hurtful yo
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
December 22 2011 17:14 GMT
#91
On December 20 2011 22:42 dacthehork wrote:
I mean when is the next "quake-like" game coming out?


When is the next chess coming out?
I dont think you can improve quake much. Graphics is perfect as it is. Visibility is the key in a fast game like this.
No better fps to play and constantly get better at as possibilities are endless.

At the same time its hard to get new players as people have been playing for years and years..
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
December 22 2011 18:45 GMT
#92
On December 23 2011 02:14 iounas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 22:42 dacthehork wrote:
I mean when is the next "quake-like" game coming out?


When is the next chess coming out?
I dont think you can improve quake much. Graphics is perfect as it is. Visibility is the key in a fast game like this.
No better fps to play and constantly get better at as possibilities are endless.

At the same time its hard to get new players as people have been playing for years and years..


Quake can be altered and reinvented for a new generation in similar fashion to SC2. It might require slight "dumbing down" but in the end it would be for the best. Graphics can be improved without hurting gameplay, weapons can be modified/added, movement tricks could be added as well and of course things like a dedicated ladder and proper matchmaking system are a must.

There is a huge deathmatch/1v1 FPS community in hibernation right now just waiting for the next game. Some of the most successful and popular PC games of all time have been from the Quake and Unreal series. Just like how the competitive RTS scene (BW and WC3) was dead outside of Korea during the mid 2000s (WCG was the only real tourmanent) the 1v1 FPS scene is "dead" now. That doesn't mean a Quake 5 couldn't come in and blow the scene up just like SC2 did. Problem here is id Software isn't Blizzard, and I don't know if they have it in them to make another revolutionary multiplayer game.

The next big deathmatch game will probably come out of nowhere from an unexpected developer.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#93
I watched some quake at Quakecon, it looked like it required vastly more skill that quick scoping on CoD or any of the other shit in FPSs
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
December 22 2011 22:35 GMT
#94
On December 23 2011 03:45 Obscure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 02:14 iounas wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:42 dacthehork wrote:
I mean when is the next "quake-like" game coming out?


When is the next chess coming out?
I dont think you can improve quake much. Graphics is perfect as it is. Visibility is the key in a fast game like this.
No better fps to play and constantly get better at as possibilities are endless.

At the same time its hard to get new players as people have been playing for years and years..


Quake can be altered and reinvented for a new generation in similar fashion to SC2. It might require slight "dumbing down" but in the end it would be for the best. Graphics can be improved without hurting gameplay, weapons can be modified/added, movement tricks could be added as well and of course things like a dedicated ladder and proper matchmaking system are a must.

There is a huge deathmatch/1v1 FPS community in hibernation right now just waiting for the next game. Some of the most successful and popular PC games of all time have been from the Quake and Unreal series. Just like how the competitive RTS scene (BW and WC3) was dead outside of Korea during the mid 2000s (WCG was the only real tourmanent) the 1v1 FPS scene is "dead" now. That doesn't mean a Quake 5 couldn't come in and blow the scene up just like SC2 did. Problem here is id Software isn't Blizzard, and I don't know if they have it in them to make another revolutionary multiplayer game.

The next big deathmatch game will probably come out of nowhere from an unexpected developer.


Im kinda skeptical deathmatch games can make a big return or that it would be slowed down and dumbed down too much to make them playable on consoles. (halo?) Or that it wouldn't have all the customization possibilities of quake or strafe jumping and movement everybody likes. But anyways I thing people playing quake would still play quake 3 / ql. Quake 4 came out and nobody cared, UT3 came out and nobody cared.

There are many dm games and variations like warsow, nexius, alien arena and many more but none of them are played much.

I hope there will be a change in the future that people start coming back from 'realistic' fps to dm but I dont know if it will ever happen.
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
December 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#95
Theres somebody playing Super Mario64 12 hours a day every day and streaming it at the moment to break the WR if you want to complain about other games you might not like that should be dead but still have 3k people watching every hour for the last few days.
LiquidDota Staff
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
December 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#96
Dead or not, you can find me having an assload of fun in FFA instagib on live. Even though my kill death ratio is below 1.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
December 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#97
Its funny how this got to 5 pages. If the op was talking about BW, it wouldnt have gotten past 1 post before the thread is quickly locked and the op banned. Does anybody see something wrong here ?
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2011 01:05 GMT
#98
On December 23 2011 09:00 SarR wrote:
Its funny how this got to 5 pages. If the op was talking about BW, it wouldnt have gotten past 1 post before the thread is quickly locked and the op banned. Does anybody see something wrong here ?


Nope.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
December 23 2011 01:09 GMT
#99
On December 23 2011 09:00 SarR wrote:
Its funny how this got to 5 pages. If the op was talking about BW, it wouldnt have gotten past 1 post before the thread is quickly locked and the op banned. Does anybody see something wrong here ?


Because this is a forum dedicated for BW & sc2?
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 23 2011 01:34 GMT
#100
rts will never be popular in the west man, sc is ugly and boring and too cerebral. the genre is basically dead here, get over it.
sincerely,
2004


truth is, there's a huge opening for a good dm game (or any good fast paced pc shooter really). i look forward to it happening.
:O
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 257
ProTech68
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 264
Snow 171
Noble 63
Sacsri 37
Icarus 6
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1082
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox534
Other Games
summit1g6284
Maynarde161
RuFF_SC262
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1284
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH421
• practicex 46
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt375
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
4h 40m
ByuN vs Zoun
SHIN vs TriGGeR
Cyan vs ShoWTimE
Rogue vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs Solar
Reynor vs Maru
herO vs Cure
Serral vs Classic
Esports World Cup
1d 4h
Esports World Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.