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A thought on a HD BW remake

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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
October 19 2011 13:19 GMT
#1
So there has been rumors of blizzard making an HD remake of BW. With the 4 BW players coming to blizzcon, the chances something like this happening improved greatly. My initial reaction to the thought of a remake was optimistic to say the least.
If the BW community accepts the game, then maybe the remake could replace the original and BW could continue on even longer. With the updated graphics, people will regain their interest in the game and BW will rise once more.

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In which the Starcraft community would become something like the counterstrike community with 1.6 and source


But then a terrifying thought came into my mind, "What if blizzard 'modernizes' BW"?
What mean by 'modernize' is, add and remove feature from the original game to better serve the casual audience such as:
1) unlimited units in control groups
2) buildings in control groups
3) auto mine
4) better AI
stuff like that.

And then it hit me, "what about B.net 2.0?" Would blizzard release a remake and connect it to the B.net 2.0 as opposed to the old one? What if BW had no LAN?
With SC2 just about to finish its first full year of Esports, this coming Blizzcon will be very important.

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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 19 2011 13:23 GMT
#2
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 19 2011 13:24 GMT
#3
On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool

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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
October 19 2011 13:26 GMT
#4
yeah this is so gonna happen
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
October 19 2011 13:28 GMT
#5
I don't know what to think about this, I guess if they did it just right then it would be fantastic, but the chances of that seem slim in today's "casual haven". I'll say this, if they can convince all four of those guys going (lol) to switch one day to this new BW then I surely will drop SC2 since if top players did and somehow everything was turned from BW into BW 2.0, including all the tournaments etc. I think if some genius of common sense was the head of this then it would work, it is a great concept. But at the end of the day most people that play BW at all anymore love the graphics etc.

Convincing newcomers to switch to a game that doesn't do things like mine for them etc. would be pretty hard I imagine. Not because they "can't" play it but because they don't "want" to have to exert that extra time to take that little proberuskie and put him on the job along with learning to control the very rude ass units that never want to go through chokes without assistance. If it was cheap and done perfectly though it would be excellent. As you pointed out no LAN would probably be what would happen to help there piracy issue and from tons of new servers popping up.

Basically in a perfect world it would work, but in this one I doubt it, which is lame. :/
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 19 2011 13:37 GMT
#6
I'm so confused and horny, middle school all over again.
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
October 19 2011 13:39 GMT
#7
I haven't heard this rumor but it sounds amazing.
Moshikaro
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
135 Posts
October 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#8
I would really, really like this. If Blizzard is planning to do this then I think there is a good chance that Blizzard actually talked with these pro's to find out what they want the game to become.

I guess these pro's also don't want HD BW to become just like SC2 ofcourse. It's just going to be Brood War again but just with updated graphics.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 19 2011 13:51 GMT
#9
On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool


It also sounds improbable.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
October 19 2011 14:03 GMT
#10
I'm only mildly excited, even if this comes to fruition. I'm happy with BW's current engine and graphics, so the only way an HD BW would help a BW fan like me is possibly attracting new fans and growing the community. However the best implementation would remain so hardcore that it would deter new fans.

BW's balance is also almost inextricable from the specifics of its engine, so a version in a new engine would need to be rebalanced entirely... or simply remain quite different from the original.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 19 2011 14:08 GMT
#11
On October 19 2011 22:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool


It also sounds improbable.

Indeed. I feel like Blizzards only rationale for this is to cash in on the BW market, and that certainly is not going to be allowed to happen... especially after the lawsuit. (They were not just sueing MBC but rather the entire BW scene in Korea.)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 19 2011 14:17 GMT
#12
This sounds unlikely. Even if it were to be made I find it unlikely that the korean scene would have much interest in it, I think they are pretty happy with the game as it is.

I dont see what market blizzard would be appealing to with this game, the people who like broodwar will still play broodwar and the people who want a shinier game will play SC2.
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Gridlock
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom517 Posts
October 19 2011 14:22 GMT
#13
I wonder if a HD remix would still include all the AI and interface glitches that made BW the way it is?

I'm sure that for Super Street Fighter HD Remix they pretty much just replaced the sprites/sound, and the engine underneath was the same, right?

Hopefully that's that a BW HD version would be like. BW without things like Muta stacking isn't really BW is it
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
October 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#14
How would this be different than SC2BW? That already exists. It's a custom map.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#15
But then a terrifying thought came into my mind, "What if blizzard 'modernizes' BW"?
What mean by 'modernize' is, add and remove feature from the original game to better serve the casual audience such as:
1) unlimited units in control groups
2) buildings in control groups
3) auto mine
4) better AI
stuff like that


I... Think I got the joke? That's pretty neat! Good job :D
memes are a dish best served dank
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45221 Posts
October 19 2011 14:35 GMT
#16
On October 19 2011 23:33 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
But then a terrifying thought came into my mind, "What if blizzard 'modernizes' BW"?
What mean by 'modernize' is, add and remove feature from the original game to better serve the casual audience such as:
1) unlimited units in control groups
2) buildings in control groups
3) auto mine
4) better AI
stuff like that


I... Think I got the joke? That's pretty neat! Good job :D


I bet they change a bunch of units too

I don't really see the need for reavers anymore, but I did like watching War of the Worlds...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
October 19 2011 14:37 GMT
#17
There's nothing wrong with Broodwar. To me graphics just don't matter. I don't understand why anyone would think Broodwar needs a HD remake.

Super Mario World on the SNES is one of the best games ever made in my opinion. Making it prettier wouldn't make it any more playable.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
October 19 2011 14:38 GMT
#18
Theres always BW in SC2.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
October 19 2011 14:48 GMT
#19
On October 19 2011 23:32 Iranon wrote:
How would this be different than SC2BW? That already exists. It's a custom map.


Without diving into the details too much, SC2BW is an imperfect copy. There are things about the BW engine that you just can't translated into the Sc2 one because of how they are designed. For example, it's impossible to perfectly mimic the size of BW buildings in sc2, because how the size of gaps between buildings are determined is different. Likewise, goon pathing in Sc2BW is bad, but it's not bad in the same way.
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 19 2011 14:59 GMT
#20
Is this really what we want? I love the brood war graphics because its so easy to understand whats going on. Everything is really easy to see(except when units stack up, mutas).
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