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Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool
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konadora
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On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool
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yeah this is so gonna happen 
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I don't know what to think about this, I guess if they did it just right then it would be fantastic, but the chances of that seem slim in today's "casual haven". I'll say this, if they can convince all four of those guys going (lol) to switch one day to this new BW then I surely will drop SC2 since if top players did and somehow everything was turned from BW into BW 2.0, including all the tournaments etc. I think if some genius of common sense was the head of this then it would work, it is a great concept. But at the end of the day most people that play BW at all anymore love the graphics etc.
Convincing newcomers to switch to a game that doesn't do things like mine for them etc. would be pretty hard I imagine. Not because they "can't" play it but because they don't "want" to have to exert that extra time to take that little proberuskie and put him on the job along with learning to control the very rude ass units that never want to go through chokes without assistance. If it was cheap and done perfectly though it would be excellent. As you pointed out no LAN would probably be what would happen to help there piracy issue and from tons of new servers popping up.
Basically in a perfect world it would work, but in this one I doubt it, which is lame. :/
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I'm so confused and horny, middle school all over again.
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I haven't heard this rumor but it sounds amazing.
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I would really, really like this. If Blizzard is planning to do this then I think there is a good chance that Blizzard actually talked with these pro's to find out what they want the game to become.
I guess these pro's also don't want HD BW to become just like SC2 ofcourse. It's just going to be Brood War again but just with updated graphics.
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On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool
It also sounds improbable.
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I'm only mildly excited, even if this comes to fruition. I'm happy with BW's current engine and graphics, so the only way an HD BW would help a BW fan like me is possibly attracting new fans and growing the community. However the best implementation would remain so hardcore that it would deter new fans.
BW's balance is also almost inextricable from the specifics of its engine, so a version in a new engine would need to be rebalanced entirely... or simply remain quite different from the original.
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On October 19 2011 22:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool It also sounds improbable.
Indeed. I feel like Blizzards only rationale for this is to cash in on the BW market, and that certainly is not going to be allowed to happen... especially after the lawsuit. (They were not just sueing MBC but rather the entire BW scene in Korea.)
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This sounds unlikely. Even if it were to be made I find it unlikely that the korean scene would have much interest in it, I think they are pretty happy with the game as it is.
I dont see what market blizzard would be appealing to with this game, the people who like broodwar will still play broodwar and the people who want a shinier game will play SC2.
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I wonder if a HD remix would still include all the AI and interface glitches that made BW the way it is?
I'm sure that for Super Street Fighter HD Remix they pretty much just replaced the sprites/sound, and the engine underneath was the same, right?
Hopefully that's that a BW HD version would be like. BW without things like Muta stacking isn't really BW is it 
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How would this be different than SC2BW? That already exists. It's a custom map.
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But then a terrifying thought came into my mind, "What if blizzard 'modernizes' BW"?
What mean by 'modernize' is, add and remove feature from the original game to better serve the casual audience such as:
1) unlimited units in control groups
2) buildings in control groups
3) auto mine
4) better AI
stuff like that
I... Think I got the joke? That's pretty neat! Good job :D
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On October 19 2011 23:33 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +But then a terrifying thought came into my mind, "What if blizzard 'modernizes' BW"?
What mean by 'modernize' is, add and remove feature from the original game to better serve the casual audience such as:
1) unlimited units in control groups
2) buildings in control groups
3) auto mine
4) better AI
stuff like that I... Think I got the joke? That's pretty neat! Good job :D
I bet they change a bunch of units too
I don't really see the need for reavers anymore, but I did like watching War of the Worlds...
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There's nothing wrong with Broodwar. To me graphics just don't matter. I don't understand why anyone would think Broodwar needs a HD remake.
Super Mario World on the SNES is one of the best games ever made in my opinion. Making it prettier wouldn't make it any more playable.
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On October 19 2011 23:32 Iranon wrote:
How would this be different than SC2BW? That already exists. It's a custom map.
Without diving into the details too much, SC2BW is an imperfect copy. There are things about the BW engine that you just can't translated into the Sc2 one because of how they are designed. For example, it's impossible to perfectly mimic the size of BW buildings in sc2, because how the size of gaps between buildings are determined is different. Likewise, goon pathing in Sc2BW is bad, but it's not bad in the same way.
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Is this really what we want? I love the brood war graphics because its so easy to understand whats going on. Everything is really easy to see(except when units stack up, mutas).
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There's pretty much 0 chance of it happening and it is dumb. Yeah, there's street fighter HD, but this is not the same thing. BW is a game even people with crappy computers can play. The HD version would have to offer no real advantages and be compatible with the old version.
What I wouldn't mind seeing is some new tilesets and other superficial features, but that's not happening either.
That said, even if they did make HD BW and it wasn't compatible with old BW, it might be fun for novelty value. But not for anything else, since competitive value would be in the gutter. "Hey guys I've got a great idea let's make basketball HD in which you need a gold ball and shoes to play, that way white people will dominate the sport again!" Just saying that's pretty much the only reason foreigners are 'competitive' in SC2.
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Blizz wouldn't do this because it would be a retarded business decision. You don't intentionally try to split your user base
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I am perfectly happy with the graphics in BW. But if an HD remake would explode in popularity I'm all for it! If SC2 and BW could coexist, and if the IP Kespa/Gretech/Blizz shit could just resolve that would be awesome.......
We could have BW GSLs 
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On October 20 2011 00:41 m4gdelen4 wrote:I am perfectly happy with the graphics in BW. But if an HD remake would explode in popularity I'm all for it! If SC2 and BW could coexist, and if the IP Kespa/Gretech/Blizz shit could just resolve that would be awesome....... We could have BW GSLs
We had one or two of those and they were really badly done just like the SC2 GSLs. Tech issues, ugly sets, etc. Sometimes it was really cool and it was fun to listen to tasteless, but GSL is just so unprofessional it's sad. "SORRY GUYS THEYRE PLAYING MUSIC OVER US SO WE HAVE TO TALK REALLY LOUD AGAIN" Wooooooow. hahaha Plus pay per view BW would be the worst. At least in the BW GSLs they didn't make us pay for their incompetence.
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On October 20 2011 00:46 mizU wrote:
... So SC2BW + Micro?
+ Macro + LAN + Shitty AI
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On October 20 2011 00:21 Chef wrote:There's pretty much 0 chance of it happening and it is dumb. Yeah, there's street fighter HD, but this is not the same thing. BW is a game even people with crappy computers can play. The HD version would have to offer no real advantages and be compatible with the old version. What I wouldn't mind seeing is some new tilesets and other superficial features, but that's not happening either. That said, even if they did make HD BW and it wasn't compatible with old BW, it might be fun for novelty value. But not for anything else, since competitive value would be in the gutter. "Hey guys I've got a great idea let's make basketball HD in which you need a gold ball and shoes to play, that way white people will dominate the sport again!" Just saying that's pretty much the only reason foreigners are 'competitive' in SC2.
Oh lawd, this.
I have never in my life seen such a large group of xenophobes as I have when it comes to crackas playing SC.
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On October 19 2011 22:24 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:23 ShadeR wrote:
Your terrifying thought sounds a heck of a lot like SC2.... exactly like SC2 looooool
This.
Or SC2BW + hacked version of SC2 which allows LAN. Which is still a nono.
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if there ever is a BW HD remix, just hope that nobody like David Sirlin is involved in development. *BUH DUM BUM PSSSTT*
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I think if they only aimed to improve the graphics and maybe some very certain unimportant parts of the game engine then most people would approve. Everybody would buy it anyway, remember those guys that were "boycotting" Modern Warfare 2
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Those people who don't play BW because of the graphics, they don't deserve it, I don't want BW to act any different or look any different.
It's perfect for me, Blizzard doesn't have to do anything!
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You sly dog, I see what you're trying to say.
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On October 20 2011 02:05 LML wrote:
Those people who don't play BW because of the graphics, they don't deserve it, I don't want BW to act any different or look any different.
It's perfect for me, Blizzard doesn't have to do anything!
Honestly if someone has the time to sit and scrutinize the graphics while in a game, then they aren't playing the game at a high enough level.
And I say no to BW HD because it would probably turn out to be like CS1.6->Source.
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I would play BW if only it had support for higher resolutions.
And maybe visible control groups. I can never remember what I've hotkeyed lol.
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No matter how much I want it it just wont ever happen unfortunately.
and that hurts me inside.
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GUYS LISTEN
GUYS
WE'LL REMAKE BROOD WAR
EXCEPT - GUYS LISTEN GUYS - IT WILL BE HD
LIKE GOOD GRAPHICS GUYS
AND THEN GUESS WHAT?
WE'LL EVEN LIKE - GUYS THIS IS BIG HERE - WE'LL IMPROVE AI
I'M NOT DONE GUYS! WE'LL EVEN MAKE CONTROL GROUPS UNLIMITED!
AND THEN GUESS WHAT GUYS? GUESS WHAT?
WE'LL MAKE MINING AUTOMATIC - AND STUFF LIKE THAT!!!!
AND YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS?
THIS IS THE BEST PART
WE'LL CALL IT -GUYS, LISTEN HERE!
WE'LL CALL IT STARCRAFT TW-
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