EPTThat's the closest you'll get to TL being like Reddit :3
Should TeamLiquid be more like Reddit? - Page 2
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
That's the closest you'll get to TL being like Reddit :3 | ||
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atombombforpeace
United States408 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
The biggest issue I have with reddit is the hivemind mentality. Since there is little to no moderation, its easy for polarized opinions to get out of control and a lot of ESPORTS figures get a lot of hate from time to time, and then the entire community forgets about it the next day. The upvote and downvote system is suppose to remove spam, but most of the time people just downvote the opinions that disagree with them. A clear example that comes to mind is that some people were having issues with the NASL Open, and Xeris came to comment in the thread about the situation. He was then downvoted to oblivion even though he was giving a statement on behalf of the NASL tournament. Even though you may agree with his reasoning or not, I thought it was a bit out of hand because you should at least up vote these opinions for everyone to see, not silence them. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Cause we get memes and shit all over the place. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Thumbs system would just make me annoyed as hell. Idk why, it just would. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
I feel that some sort of up/downvote system would perhaps be acceptable, as long as it didn't reorganize the order of the posts in the thread in any way. I'd go about listing the pros/cons but most of them have already been written in this thread or elsewhere. | ||
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On June 29 2011 14:53 krndandaman wrote: I think having a thumbs up/thumbs down option on comments would be nice. Like for example if I post something in tech support and some guy posts advice but I see a million thumbs down, I'd safely assume the guy had no idea what he was talking about. R1CH is way ahead of you! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215432 | ||
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Geordie
United Kingdom653 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:53 Wordpad wrote: Oh in that case, sorry for wasting people's time :/ no problem | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Vequeth
United Kingdom1116 Posts
On June 29 2011 15:29 Kipsate wrote: No Cause we get memes and shit all over the place. This is more a victim of the people who are doing the posting/upvoting rather than the system at fault. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On June 29 2011 15:49 Danjoh wrote: R1CH is way ahead of you! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215432 The wizard strikes again! Very very nice... | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
Otherwise, no | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
It will be even worse because all the people who don't usually post will get to express their opinion in a cheap and easy way by just voting. If you want to have an input or express your opinion, you should at least have to make an effort to actually present your arguments in words. Because otherwise, why would we care? Unargumented (apparently this is not a real word, wtf? ;P) opinions are really not worth anything. On June 29 2011 15:12 atombombforpeace wrote: Personally, I think forcing people to read an entire thread before posting a comment allows people to digest things, before chiming in with any comments of their own. Better start with this one then.  How can you force people to read something in the first place? There's no technical way you can confirm they read it before you let them post. On June 29 2011 15:54 Vequeth wrote: This is more a victim of the people who are doing the posting/upvoting rather than the system at fault. The system gives people the ability to vote/downvote that they wouldn't otherwise have (in a different system). Ultimately the fault is still in the system. EDIT (unrelated to posts I replied to above): I just took a peek at reddit's Starcraft section, and these are the topics that are on top of the page: - IdrA (you can guess what this is about -_-) - Email from the father of the kid who DDOSed Destiny - Destiny announces on stream that the producer of Judge Judy wants his case! - Friday 9:30PM EST CombaT-EX VS Idra BO7 - Who here watches Starcraft way more than they play? TeamLiquid (and this is only SC2 General, usually the worst threads appear here): - [Int] GSL July Code S Ro32 D1 - [Zerg Master league]Blade Replay pack - Can you name the GSL Champions? - Change of control groups worth it? - ESL announces Extreme Masters VI (IEM) | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On June 29 2011 15:54 Vequeth wrote: This is more a victim of the people who are doing the posting/upvoting rather than the system at fault. The question is, do voting systems that let people influence what gets seen while lurking lean towards content like that inherently with any large community, or does it entirely depend on the community in question? It'd be an interesting (temporary) experiment, for sure. | ||
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nepeta
1872 Posts
* Not really familiar with this myself, but judging from what I've seen and heard. ** Hive-minding is, imho, not endemic to a certain system, but to a critical mass of users. It's a social thing on the extreme end of the scale: more people, more hive-minding. Imho, the problem is finding the balance between 1) spreading information and 2) user participation. Spreading information works best with a top-down structure, user participation is more egalitarian. There are of course some modifiers, like rewarding people who put in valuable info (e.g. user icons for staff of various plumage, liquipedia contributors), valuing that people lurk more and stfu about stuff they know nothing about, or a raging hard-on for freedom of speech which will guide the forum in question the opposite way, but I think that it basically boils down to these two choices. On a personal note, before someone tells me to stfu as the guy who always goes "LEEEEEEEEE JAAAAEEEEEEEEE DONG!!!!!!!!!!!!" in live reports threads, I tend to do that (especially as he's stopped slumping for a bit recently), but I stay the hell away from strategy threads because I can barely beat the AI. Fangirlish screaming won't hurt anyone but the other guy's fangirls, and for the 'random news section' in general, I couldn't care less so I don't post there either. It's like in real life, in the stadium scream with the thousands, but discussing the merits of anaesthetized butchering with 50+ random people on a starcraft forum: No thank you! And of course my personal experience brings me to the solution of balancing the spreading of information and participation: Moderate the informative sub-fora like Death with a light-sabre, make live report threads DMZs*, kill the general forum**. This way you keep the forum clean while giving people a chance to participate. * At least Idra fans won't club you to death with their "post" buttons. ** Whatever good ever gets posted in general? Does it show I should be writing a paper? TT | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
I'd rather see something like Slashdot's system. Slashdot offers veteran posters the chance to moderate their choice of a one threads, and they get to go through the thread and up or down-vote 25 of the posts in them. Who gets to moderate is random, but selective, and moderators are those more likely to have had their posts highly rated. Then, there's a second stage of "meta-moderation" where anyone can look at moderator's votes and vote on whether they thought the moderation was fair or unfair. Meta-moderating a lot makes one more likely to be picked to moderate. This system is structured in such a way as to make it less likely for people to give positive mod feedback to bad posts with which they happen to agree. | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
Reddit sucks because you can only find the same posts. They both have their advantages. TL is not going to switch to upvote/downvote so there isn't really anything to discuss. | ||
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