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My First Failure

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Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
June 24 2011 02:54 GMT
#1
There are a lot of things that I could have done better to make it work, a lot of things I could have tried, but I didn't. I didn't because I didn't know. The saying goes, "hindsight is 20/20", meaning that you only know what the right thing was to do, only after it has already happened. I feel this way right now. The thing I'm talking about, in case you are wondering, is the lower level tournament I tried to organize.

I could have tried harder to get free lessons instead of ones paid for by entry fees, I could have sourced more and advertised in more venues such as z33k.com, bnet, or reddit, but I didn't. Hindsight. What a bitch. So I call it my first failure. I've run multiple tournaments as live events at LAN centers with the normal problems that even MLG runs into sometimes; dropped streams, missing players, assistants getting grounded. Well, not so much the last one, but that really sucked regardless and I hope m155g33k knows just how much I, and the league, appreciate the work she does at the LANs (see you next month XD).

But regardless of any of the problems at live events, we have always come out on top at live events. The internet well yeah. that sucked. Hopefully I'll be able to do it again, successfully this time, in the future.

Founder of the New England SC2 League
RoTaNiMoD
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States558 Posts
June 24 2011 03:48 GMT
#2
I had no idea what you were talking about until the second paragraph. Now I have an idea but still no concrete knowledge. I wish you had either kept going with information so I really knew, or kept it abstract because I was really abstractly relating for a while. Either way, I hear ya man. Try your best to use your un-20/20 vision in the past to give you 20/20 vision for the future. What more can you do?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 04:02:34
June 24 2011 04:01 GMT
#3
I think this would be a more effective blog if there were more details about what's going on. I read this once and it sounds like you tried to organize a tournament, spent everyone's money on pro lessons for yourself and then something....?

This kind of sounds like a private message to someone apologizing...you know? Dodging around the subject because you feel guilty?
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
June 24 2011 04:16 GMT
#4
yeah haha i am really confused by this blog
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
June 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#5
I have no idea what happened.
You talk about lessons, tournaments, internet problems, and assistants, and nothing seems connected.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 24 2011 05:26 GMT
#6
I think he went to a tournament or ran a tournament or something and did bad.

Don't worry, nobody does great their first time...and that goes for just about every thing in life.

Although I totally thought from the title + first paragraph that this was a girl blog.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 24 2011 05:32 GMT
#7
Drogith what happened! tell more of the story! us LAN coordinators need to stick together.
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
June 24 2011 09:48 GMT
#8
I apologize for the ramblings, so lets see if I can explain this out a little better.

I run a LAN tournament series in the New England area. Like most LANs, there are slight technical bugs that you have to deal with, adjust fire, and carry on as best you can. Something like this actually happened this past weekend where the girl that helps to organize what players are currently playing and keeps everything moving for me, could not make it. To stack onto that, my co-commentator's car would not start. Little hiccups like this happen at all LAN events and even online ones, it's all par for the course, but none of it constitutes a failure of an event. For numbers, I have run over 5 successful LANs for SC2.

I recently tried to organize a tournament for the lower league players (bronze to platinum) where professional SC2 lessons were the prizes for 1st and 2nd place. I had quite a few teams on board for this tournament and they all agreed to do the lessons with proper compensation. All of the teams even agreed to send out some free team gear as prizes for 3rd and 4th places.

My first attempt to get this tournament going was for New England only. That didn't work, so instead of just cutting the tourney right there, I adjusted it to a larger base group. All of NA that was ranked bronze to platinum was allowed to enter the tournament and the price was dropped from $10 to $5. This was to cover the pro lessons and pay for future tournaments exactly like this one. For the first tournament, 7 people signed up. The second attempt, 5 total. The second number is including the number of people that had yet to send money via paypal. So I felt it was time to cut my losses.

I refunded everyones money back and even took a couple of hits because of the funky taxing that paypal does if the money is sent the wrong way. I'm not worried about it though.So based on everything that happened for these attempts at an online tournament, I'm calling it my first failure.

Now, as i said up above, I could have advertised a lot more and even tried to get some larger name casters involved, even if it was just name dropping the tournament. I could have also tried to work closer with the pro teams for free, or even discount lessons as prizes, as opposed to full price being paid by entry fees. I also could have tried to work more with guys like LuckyFool (I'm adding you to my contact list) who have a good feel for the community being a LAN coordinator himself to figure out a better way of doing everything.

Hope that clears up some of my ramblings for you. I'm going to keep doing my LAN events (my sponsors would kill me otherwise) and there might be another attempt in the future, with more help, for another lower league online tournament. Thanks for reading.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 24 2011 11:40 GMT
#9
Honestly though... what were you expecting? The population of people who are in bronze to plat and are both well informed enough to find out about events like this and dedicated enough to wish to participate is very low.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
June 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#10
Yeah I live in the NE area, I would have came, but then again I'm not bronze to plat :/
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
June 24 2011 20:44 GMT
#11
In addition, the fee to play is kind of silly anyways. While I understand it isn't super cheap to buy professional coaching, I don't think many bronze-plat players would be interested in forking out 5-10$ to some guy on the internet to play in a tournament where they might be knocked out right away.
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