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[Girlblog] Making Her Mine Part 2

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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 29 2011 09:31 GMT
#1


Here's part 1, for those who are interested:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=206225

Let's start this part off with some Q&A!

On March 29 2011 08:59 Urth wrote:
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On March 29 2011 08:39 ieatkids5 wrote:
Seems like a happy ending, but I'll end this blogpost with the fact that she didn't want to stay with me. She didn't want commitment. She just wanted to play around. She thought I was "too young" (I'm 2 years younger than her), such that I wouldn't be able to "protect and take care of her" and that I wasn't mature enough.

I just want to say it sounds like she isn't worth your time, and I can't see this relationship going anywhere based on your description.

Looking back, yeah I had no idea what I was doing. Maybe if I had posted this on TL when I first realized that this probably wasn't going to work, I would have followed everyone's advice here (which is to have sex, have fun, and don't get attached to her. Logical.).

On March 29 2011 09:05 Grobyc wrote:
Just curious, why do you want her so bad anyways? I hope she's super hot, because you don't make her sound too appealing personality wise.

On March 29 2011 09:22 Aeres wrote:
Holy shit, someone actually used the [Girl] tag. Maybe, just maybe, it'll catch on.

And yeah, I agree with Grobyc. Judging solely from what you posted about her, she sounds pretty stuck-up and entitled. It might help to point out exactly what endears her to you.

She's not super hot, but I think she's pretty. Personality-wise.... yeah that was one of the big problems. I found out these sort of traits a few weeks after we started going out. Again, I should say that looking back, I had no fucking clue what I was doing. Why did I want her so badly?? It's probably the feeling of growing attached to someone, of having a pretty girl as your girlfriend. Illogical and irrational haha. I know. Oh, and I had this tiny amount of hope in the back of my mind that I could somehow make her want to continue this relationship and think of me as someone worth her time.

Haha I really haven't learned anything from reading TL girl blogs, have I....

On March 29 2011 09:24 Servius_Fulvius wrote:
I feel there's something fundamentally wrong in saying "make her mine".

1). She's not yours, she's her own (girls aren't property)
2). you can't "make" her do anything (everything she does is her own decision; if you manipulated her into a decision then any relationship that comes from it isn't based on honesty)
3). if you're looking for something serious, the girl has to give you her heart (which she can take back whenever the heck she wants)

Heh, I knew the title was going to controversy
Like what the other dude said, it basically means "making her want to stay with me."
Oh, and yeah, number 3. Oh so true.

On March 29 2011 09:47 Redlol wrote:
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On March 29 2011 09:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

its idiomatic deal with it


Further, they belong to you the same way that you belong to them. I'm pretty sure the original poster doesn't want this chick to wear a leash(maybe he might, but you get what I'm saying).

I eat kids. Making her wear a leash isn't too far-fetched.


On March 29 2011 10:03 paper wrote:
Tell me this: why the hell would you want commitment when you're so young and this is your first girlfriend (if you can even call it that). It's great if you find your true love on the first try, but I call bullshit on that, especially considering you kissed her once and she decided to tag along. Culture an abundance mentality regarding girls, and don't make them a goal in themselves. They should be a byproduct of supreme confidence and success in life (where each helps to expand the other). A lot of people (like you) are set on this perspective of "take what falls in your lap" and settle in their mediocre relationships. That doesn't help you discover and identify traits you really want in a partner. You should be fucking celebrating that she only wanted to play around and not drag you into the depths of a hollow relationship.

tl;dr -- who cares about making her yours again

Should totally have followed this advice way back when. Just have fun and mess around, and then forget about it. No commitment, no attachment, no hard feelings. You know, I bet 99% (or more) of people who were in my situation would have ended up with a shitty ending. But mine's different.

On March 29 2011 10:27 The KY wrote:
There's no point trying to make her yours OP, it's not happening. I absolutely guarantee it. Once a girl has made up her mind that she doesn't want you there is no changing it.
I know it's hard not to, but try, TRY, not to obsess over it, don't let any little thing she says make you trick yourself into thinking you have a chance, you don't. Sorry man. It's only natural, but when another girl shows interest you'll forget this one.

If you absolutely must keep trying; don't let her know you give too much of a fuck. Nothing is less attractive than a guy who's been shot down and thinks he can win a lady over by being really into her.

One time, she asked me why I'm so committed to her and I couldn't think of anything to say. Because the truth is, I probably just wanted a pretty girl to like me. Sounds pretty pathetic.

On March 29 2011 11:00 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
Do you really eat kids? Because that may have been the turnoff...







But in all seriousness perhaps you should reevaluate your relationship, I mean if she doesn't want to commit is it really ok for you to find a way to force her too?

hahaha
For your second question though, that was actually what I wanted the focus of this blog series to be. Not just about how I navigated through the depths of this relationship with her, but.... in a way... to use your words - "force her" to like me. It really is a huge ethical dilemma now that I think about my intentions.

To go back to the title of this blog series - "Making Her Mine." I mean, that was my goal. To make her want to stay with me. In essence, the thing that was keeping me from attaining this goal was a set of (in my very biased opinion) illogical principles that determined how she approached relationships. And these were, as I said before: needs an older guy (more mature, able to "take care of her"), needs someone who can make money. Oh and probably the worse one, the fact that I don't fit her perception of these things, even if I am able to do all of these things.

Is it ethical to go about changing the way someone thinks? Especially if it's for something stupid like "wanting a pretty girl for a girlfriend"?? Is it really ok to go and change these principles so that she can see me in different light?

Because I went back and really thought about what paper wrote. I really should have just went along with what she wanted. It's probably easier to find another girl than to influence this one enough to change her into what I want her to be. Not to mention to ethical questions this brings up.

Anyway, I really appreciate the responses. They help me put a lot of my thoughts and past actions into perspective.

*
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 09:55:29
March 29 2011 09:51 GMT
#2
Kinda same story bro. Mine is
1. Say to her that I like her -> 2. She liked me back -> 3. Mutual understading -> 4. I actually don't like her -> 5. She really likes me. Simple.
Now, my problem is "pushing her away"(not literally, just avoiding her) without her going berserk saying things like "all of those meant nothing!?!?!?". I didn't know what was I thinking when I started our relationship.

No offense bro, but I think I'm(kinda) in your girl's situation

EDIT: Not that I really didn't like her in #4. I just regretted making that relationship. I should've just kept it at normal friends stage.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 29 2011 10:20 GMT
#3
Heh, having sorta been in your girl's situation, I can say that making it clear to her that you don't want a relationship is important; the earlier the better. The longer you wait, the more she'll grow attached to you and gradually gain more hope that she can stay with you.

You'll have to deal with however she responds to this, but it will be worth it because if you wait, you'll have to deal with an even worse fit of crying/rage.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 29 2011 12:27 GMT
#4
One time, she asked me why I'm so committed to her and I couldn't think of anything to say. Because the truth is, I probably just wanted a pretty girl to like me. Sounds pretty pathetic.


No dude we've all been there, it's your dumbass brain chemicals telling you lies.
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
March 29 2011 15:14 GMT
#5
I don't know if it's possible to change the way she thinks, man. I remember something about her being Shanghainese...her criteria for an ideal boyfriend is pretty common in Asia, no? Cultural values are something that's pretty deep-seated, and my cynicism is saying that, even if you were able to change her mind right now, she would revert immediately back to those criteria/mindset in future problems. As in, she would start to question whether her native, long-time boyfriend values were actually the right ones, considering she would have changed herself for you.

I know you invested a lot of time into it, but you seem something of a hopeless romantic...that's just the way you are, and that's just the way she is. Think of it from her perspective: you, too, are pretty inelastic about your relationship ideals. Maybe it's better to just let her go...? =/
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 18:20:11
March 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#6
The problem with a lot of these blogs is the same. So I'll do my best Dr. Phil/Iknoweverything job I can,without getting too specific:

Experience. You may think you know what you want, but it takes a while to figure out. Most 'nerds' (don't hate me, I am one) want a commitment of sorts(like you), and usually attach to the first girl.

It's a paradox: The more girls you're with, the better you know what you're looking for. But at the same time there is no such thing as a perfect girl, you will have to settle. Unfortunately, the more girls you break up with on your search, the higher chance that you missed your chance to settle.

Watch Deal, Or No Deal. That's the best advice I have. Imagine that the case is the girl: All the options correspond to real life.
-You can stay with your case and it could turn out being a million dollars. Or it could be the damn penny.
-You can make a deal at any time. Maybe you take 200,000 and the case only had $10 in it: WIN. Maybe you take 200,000 and the case had 400,000 in it: FFFFUUUUUU!!!!
-Etc...

Edit: It's your game to play, and you can't find out all the chances you missed out on until it's all said and done.
You can take advice from others on the sideline, but they can just as likely fuck you over, as they can help you. (But, at this point you've lost already, sorry bro)
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Kangg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States128 Posts
March 29 2011 19:18 GMT
#7
In my opinion its not the fact that you wanted the idea of a hot girlfriend, you wanted the idea that you can get a girlfriend. Personally for me, i go on dates pretty frequently i like the girl but once im in the relationship i sabotage it because thats not for me. I have had 10 different girlfriends in my first year in college and each time its me just getting out of the scenario. Idk, i like the idea of having a girlfriend over having a girlfriend. But also because i had one that i dated back in high school for 2 years that i feel i will never be able to compare to anyone else. But most of the time, your dick comes first, then your heart.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 29 2011 20:29 GMT
#8
On March 30 2011 04:18 Kangg wrote:
In my opinion its not the fact that you wanted the idea of a hot girlfriend, you wanted the idea that you can get a girlfriend. Personally for me, i go on dates pretty frequently i like the girl but once im in the relationship i sabotage it because thats not for me. I have had 10 different girlfriends in my first year in college and each time its me just getting out of the scenario. Idk, i like the idea of having a girlfriend over having a girlfriend. But also because i had one that i dated back in high school for 2 years that i feel i will never be able to compare to anyone else. But most of the time, your dick comes first, then your heart.

I'm so ugly that I'd have a better chance staying with her than finding someone else.
Haha, ok maybe I'm not an ugly motherfucker, but I'm not good looking. Might be underestimating myself though; I am confident and act confidently; I have a pretty good sense of humor...
It actually shouldn't be that difficult finding another girl. I give in. haha

On March 30 2011 00:14 jellyfish wrote:
I don't know if it's possible to change the way she thinks, man. I remember something about her being Shanghainese...her criteria for an ideal boyfriend is pretty common in Asia, no? Cultural values are something that's pretty deep-seated, and my cynicism is saying that, even if you were able to change her mind right now, she would revert immediately back to those criteria/mindset in future problems. As in, she would start to question whether her native, long-time boyfriend values were actually the right ones, considering she would have changed herself for you.

I know you invested a lot of time into it, but you seem something of a hopeless romantic...that's just the way you are, and that's just the way she is. Think of it from her perspective: you, too, are pretty inelastic about your relationship ideals. Maybe it's better to just let her go...? =/

Yeah, values/personality/mindset are really really difficult to change, let alone change someone else's.

But I'm on a mission. Haha. I know it's irrational. There's almost a 100% chance of failure. That's what I was thinking as I was dating her. But yeah my feelings easily overrode my logic. I was gonna try to change the way she thinks about me.

In the end, she will like me. Love me.

Ethical? Probably not. But then, what if we're both better off (happier) if I do this to her? Hard to compare opportunity costs, since we don't know what could have been. But I'm confident in this.

Logical? Nope. Not at all.

Did I go ahead and try? Yes.

Oh, and I'll explain how everything turned out in part 3. Stay tuned.
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