Do you think sth like low dose amphetamine which highers concentration, focus and thought speed the way glucose/sugar does aswell might be highering starcraft 2 playing abilities? Also alot of research chemicals like 4FMP or Methylon/Mephedrone are proven to higher the speed of thought process and endurance in low dose experiments. Noone might consider drug abuse as possible in the esport scene so noone ever checks for that.
/discuss
Sidenote: Smokin weed makes you uberfast but in the replay your apm is actually cut in half. xD Not that I would have ever tried that :X
I'd be terrible if I smoked weed and played, and I have tried playing drunk (which resulted me in losing games I could have rolled the other player in, sober).
I'm pretty sure any ADD Medication/Amphetamine/"Study drug" would likely make it easier to train, but I don't know how much influence it would have on the actual individual games. I think it'd likely just make it easier to sit down, play 4 hours straight, and go over every replay in depth.
Personally I wouldn't mind the chance to try that out, but I don't have a way to get any of that stuff (or money for it anyway).
I ladder almost exclusively with my bowl next to me, loaded. So I dunno, I have less fun playing sober, and things like...I "rage" pretty hard sometimes, mostly just cause I know I fucked it up pretty hard and herpin your derp pretty hard is never fun. When I'm baked it's all good fun and I'm laughing and shit, never actually mad. (act pretty mad online though, gets some wonderful responses! xD)
When I'm sober though I think it's a little more real rage, which is a big nono....so ya, I try to not do things that can piss you off a whole lot sober when I can xD
ADHD medications like adderal increases focus and reduces nerves, there is actually a market for them in colleges and university because students use them to study and take tests.
Smoking weed just makes me not over think my actions which can be helpful for not second guessing myself, but when i get into an unpracticed situation i flounder.
wow since some speak it out straight, I played alot of my teamgames on weed and I never get mad which helps alot finding friends and being positive about learning from mistakes. Charlie would say "winning" :DD but in the end I play better when Iam sober.
On March 21 2011 10:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's all we need... drug tests before every GSL round. ...
If you pro gamers want to be taken seriously, those test should be implemented before all tournements... i love the mental pictures your quote got into my head...
Idra "It's all for the good of e sports"
Day "Could you check my glucose levels while you're at it please?"
qxc "a self made fan video and now this... i knew i should of gone into journalism"
On March 21 2011 10:20 MilAgro wrote: This is actually half serious, half -> ;]
Do you think sth like low dose amphetamine which highers concentration, focus and thought speed the way glucose/sugar does aswell might be highering starcraft 2 playing abilities? Also alot of research chemicals like 4FMP or Methylon/Mephedrone are proven to higher the speed of thought process and endurance in low dose experiments. Noone might consider drug abuse as possible in the esport scene so noone ever checks for that.
/discuss
Sidenote: Smokin weed makes you uberfast but in the replay your apm is actually cut in half. xD Not that I would have ever tried that :X
if you think your uberfast while youre smoking weed your smoking bad weed Also ive bought weed once in berlin and they gave me so few for so many money. And the weed was pretty bad. All kinds of shit stuff in it
I tried to play some starcraft while a little buzzed from drinking and it didn't work out very well. Never tried smoking weed and playing though because i haven't smoked in a year. I know that adderall helps a lot with concentration and speed and is also really big in other gaming scenes, but im pretty new to the starcraft scene so i don't know if there is a history of abuse or not.
Well amphetamine isnt illegal for no reason but there is much more on the market with altered molecules giving you the same low dose experience and not getting you atleast bodily addicted. Ive tried methylon once and I dunno how to describe it. Flies are actually hard to catch cause for them everythings looking slow motion cause they take way more pictures per second of the enviroment than humans. It felt like that. Was ages ago tho.
However, I think drug abuse is atleast possible, totally not recommendable tho.
Caffeine FTW! In all honesty it probably has/will happen. However, I could see it leading to mixed results as I would have to imagine it would be hard to get the right blend all the time. Also, once addicted it would be hard to practice without it. Long term use of alot of these drugs kinda mess people up from what I understand.
I believe I read somewhere that they were treating PTSD with Esctacy. This sort of reminded me of that.
I would like to imagine drug use happens in the eSports scene, but I can't. Everyone seems too chill and honest.
But as for the idea of trying to play under the influence of something like an amphetamine.. I think the biggest thing I've noticed, after spending a few years fooling around with meth, mdma, and blow is that I don't think I could ever concentrate on a game long enough to see it through.
At a low dose, if you could get ahold of yourself, and ignore all the feelings you are feeling, I don't see why it wouldn't be a bit of help. But of course, it could be the exact opposite.
One of my friends in class did a very low dose of MDMA for his first time, and it was low enough that he wasn't like OMG I FEEL SO GOOD OMG! but just 'yeah, i'm chillin, feelin good'.. Anyway. He thought he was going normal speed, if not a bit faster, and he thought he was hiding it so well, but he was moving so slow and it was so obvious. A giant facepalm for everyone in the class.
So, I suppose it would depend on the person. It would definitely be interesting to try. I've tried playing Counterstrike while high on MDMA and I couldn't do it. It was so much work and I just wanted to cuddle or roll around or sit on a swing or something. My mind didn't have the patience for strategies, and my arms wanted to just flop and cuddle. Haha. I've played while drunk before, and that can go either good or bad. Depends on how much I've drank. I tried playing Starcraft while drunk, but I ended up stopping and just talking to the person I was playing with instead of actually playing. I got obliterated, but, I made a friend. ^_^b /facepalm
My conclusion: I don't think drug use would work in a game, even if it does 'heighten' your senses and let's your mind think freely and quicker. & No I don't think there is much, if any, drug use in the eSports scene.
i know some people from Quake who always entrusted themselves to some speed/amphetamines afaik.
Never tried it, but they told me it makes em really strong as far as the reaction and response time is concerned. Since Quake isn't an RTS and implies different mechanics than RTS like Sc2, it wont be the same I think.
Some Koreans seem to be on drugs :D because of some unbelievable micro *trollin* =)
I play baked every time I play stacraft, it only helps me play because I'm so used to playing while high. Its my relaxed relaxed state, where I tend to play better.
when i was a kid in school i took a ritalin type drug to reduce my daydreaming and increase my attention in class. It worked great. I havent used it since school but decided to give it a try in my adult life to see if it improves my mental acuity at work. I was also hoping it would help me in my laddering. So far it seems to help about as much as i expected, just a slight edge. im taking a very small dose. I absolutely cannot play stoned. I miss all my timings and forget about all kinds of macro when i smoke weed
Mephdrone/Methylone is not going to help you at all. The euphoric aspect is too distracting from the stimulant aspect. You want more of a dopamine-based drug than serotonin for this kind of thing. Personally amphetamine felt like it helped a fair bit, so i bet research chemicals like 2-dpmp would be perfect for it. Opiates i found were the best though but that's just me, it reduces anxiety makes you think more clearly and respond without emotion to situaitons.
no expirience with shitty chemical "medical" drugs(srsly retalin and that crap is worse then most other drugs).
but speed def will improve your game. butdoesnt mean that you shioukld take it for sc2. it improves your attention mspeed and ego but its nothing to rely on.
but can tell you that all non amphetamine based drugs will hurt your gamneplay no matter what they make you think. i play 90% of my games under some kind of drug(sup Tsn yo) and its stupid how much better i play when sober.
Last summer I snorted amphetamine and played starcraft for eight straight hours on Diamond ladder. As we all know starcrafts matchup system pitches you against players who are usually of the same skill level, so that you are supposed to win or lose around 50% of the games you played. Well, that night I can honestly say that I must have won more like around 90% of all the games that I played. I was better than I usually was, more than doubled my skill level in every regard. I had better reaction time than before, I always knew what to do and never stalled asking myself what to do next. I always had a plan for the future and planned way ahead in what I needed to do. I could multitask like a beast, keeping tabs on all my different units and almost never made the stupid mistake of getting supply blocked or anything else. My micro was a whole lot better, basically it felt like I had become a pro.
Taking any kind of speed and playing Starcraft is most definitely cheating in some way. I think they should do more drug tests on a professional level because there is no way this doesn't enhance or boost your performance in some way.
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You do what you prefer. 
