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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
February 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#21
Be a dick, they won't take you seriously if you be too nice. Depends on the situation too. If something can be easily accomplished be nice, but if its something that you don't know will go your way be assertive as hell.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
February 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#22
Sound sad and disappointed. . .You'll get way more help than if your aggressive
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show. -Idra"
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 07:52:04
February 22 2011 22:12 GMT
#23
It depends on what kind of person you value being. If you think it is worth making other people feel bad for a slight increase in efficiency, then that is your call.
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Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
February 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#24
You don't have to be an asshole to get things done. Take names and get concrete deadlines etc, make people commit.

No nonsense is what you are aiming for, not "best buddy" or "absolute cock"
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
February 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#25
Nice, yet firm. Don't take flack from people, but being a nice person is a hard to come by trait these days -- don't lose it.
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
February 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#26
yoonho go crossuu storuuu paiibu pee emmuu
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
February 23 2011 05:55 GMT
#27
On February 23 2011 04:06 GameTime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:51 HULKAMANIA wrote:
I don't think that getting what you want in a customer service situation is worth being asshole to someone. I have no doubt that assholes get what they want more than polite individuals, no doubt whatsoever. I just think that it's kind of a self-cheapening thing to do.

The real virtuosity of customer-service interactions lies in being a decent, polite, sympathetic, patient human being who still doesn't take shit. It's a difficult balance to strike, admittedly, but, in my opinion, in terms of human dignity, it beats the shit out of BMing some poor call-center worker in order to get a free month of Xbox Live.

When companies screw with you, you have to screw with them right back. Being nice gets nothing done because you just fall into their cookie cutter problem and "solution" format. When you have been dicked around, the slightest sense you get that the person you are talking to won't solve your problem, immediately ask for a manager. Like you said, these people usually don't deserve it so go straight to the source and it's usually the person who set those policies in the first place. Managers understand that they would rather lose a few dollars here or there to keep their customers but the peons that you talk to first don't have that authority.

See that's where I disagree. When companies screw with you, you certainly do not have to screw with them right back. You're free to react to people however you want to; you don't have to let their actions determine yours. You don't have to return evil for evil.

And that's my point: I already acknowledged that being a polite and respectful person will not achieve the same results that being a slobbering douchebag will. I agree. But what I wanted to point out is that being a decent and respectful person to your fellow human beings is worth being occasionally thwarted by customer service. I wanted to point out that acting like an asshole in order to get better service works but that it will tend to trivialize rather than enrich your life.

I realize that last statement borders on mysticism. Nevertheless I stand by it.

On February 23 2011 07:12 Manifesto7 wrote:
It depends on what kind of person you value being. If you think it is work making other people feel bad for a slight increase in efficiency, then that is your call.

And here is my point put into much clearer language. They just don't make forum posters like this guy anymore.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 07:18:54
February 23 2011 07:14 GMT
#28
Don't be an a**hole, be nice but also strict. Say precisely what you want and state what you will do if they don't fix your problem, but don't yell at the other person, he can't do much about it. Try to find out if what you want is actually impossible or if the other person is just too low in the food chain to help you. If the support guy can't help you, ask if there is someone you can talk to who can help to fix the problem.

For example when i got my internet connection but hadn't gotten my login details due to a postal error. I explained nice and calm that i will not pay for the time until i can actually use the connection, since it's illogical to pay for something you can't use: I got escalated and got a temporary login that i could immedatly use and noone got yelled at or offended.

Edit/Clarification: As opposed to "common knowledge", most support people actually care and want to help you. In some companies they even get a bonus for solving a customers problem, though even without that most of the time they try their best, but sometimes they just don't have the possibility, so they will gladly escalate you to someone who can help.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
February 23 2011 07:45 GMT
#29
Be nice to your sister and talk her into doing all the tough work.

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
February 23 2011 07:54 GMT
#30
Well I work in customer services and from my experience I'd say just being clear with what you want and being firm in your position is the best.

To the people I work with (as I do not longer take calls myself), if someone is being an asshole - we are a lot less inclined to give the caller what he/she wants. However I do believe that we work in a different way than many other customer services, but friendliness goes a very long way.
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