HuK, even though I love him, doesn't deserve that spot, neither does White-Ra. I'd put players like Nada, or even Younghwa above him. He just hasn't proven himself.
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
HuK, even though I love him, doesn't deserve that spot, neither does White-Ra. I'd put players like Nada, or even Younghwa above him. He just hasn't proven himself. | ||
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dogabutila
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kaisr
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wherebugsgo
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As for HuK; again, you can't base everything on results right now because there honestly aren't any, not even for some of the top 6-7. MC only made it to RO16 and he hasn't done anything since, does that mean he's a worse player than Ret because Ret won assembly? I don't think so. Fact is, we've watched HuK play. He defeated Nestea on a fair map in a long macro game. He's been displaying consistency on his stream against world class players, and this is something I've witnessed for weeks. For the other players who have potential for that spot, we don't have enough information. We've seen Ace play a couple times, but you can't evaluate his skill on 3 games. You can go watch dozens of HuK's against S-class players on his stream, though. | ||
dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
I don't much like Ret being in power rankings, and really the only changes I would make would be to switch Idra and TOP and jinro and MC. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
In Season 2 Idra won against some random in chickencombo, then against oGsGon (who is more of a coach than a player) and then got stomped in the face by Zenio. Not particularly special. In Season 3 Idra's performance wasn't much better, but he did take a game off MVP. At the time MVP was not as good as he is now, granted. I think it took until after GSL 3 for him to truly shape up and start kicking ass (both players, in fact) Season 4 was commendable, but I don't think Idra did as well as people think. He admitted himself he had an easy bracket, that he got lucky, and that by all means he should not have made it so far. His only real wins, IMO, came against Ensnare and Check. Everything else was due to a fault in the other player. Genius gifted him a game, Nada was hiding a build, and Clide basically was too stubborn to get antiair in time and blew a 20 worker lead by playing like a jackass. His series vs Jinro kinda exposed his one-dimensionality, his inability to adapt, and his overall lackluster as an S class player. He's S-class, but IMO he doesn't have what it takes right now to ever win a GSL, or even break into the semifinals. He has to vary his play and get over his mental hump that Zerg suck so bad that you autolose 50% of the time. I mean, really, despite what you think of balance, you don't leave a game just because you get bunkered in. That's not the mentality of a champion, that's the mentality of someone who WILL lose. If Idra continues with that attitude he's not going to move up. Just look at Jinro. He has the mentality of a champion. Using mech against Protoss, when no one has been seriously using it? And not just any Protoss, but the best Protoss. He's delivered results and his attitude is such that he will continue to deliver results. Idra? I dunno. Even since Broodwar I don't feel like Idra has matured enough as a player to warrant significant praise. With that said, I feel like Idra deserves credit for qualifying for all 3 open seasons, something not many other players were able to do. I also feel like he played well enough in GSL 4, with an unexpected RO8 appearance, that he deserves recognition. I disagree that TOP should be below Idra, and this is primarily because TOP has performed better against S class players than Idra has (in both series and in single matches.) TOP is also not one-dimensional. Idra is. | ||
StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
At best Huk is barely S-class level. Winning a game or two on the ladder means nothing. Even IMMvp loses 1/3 of his games on the ladder. It doesn't mean he won't rolfstomp his opponents in the GSL. Results > popularity. | ||
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SpoR
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On February 20 2011 19:20 SpoR wrote: small gripe, but hasn't nestea lost a zvz game late in GSL2 or something? (but still won the series) He hasn't lost a single zvz or zvp in any tournament he has participated so far. MVP and Nestea definitely deserve their spots, and I'd put MC in 3rd. As for the rest, you can't really rank them, I don't really think there's much disparity between a lot of the top players in korea. For me it would look like this. 1. MVP 2. Nestea 3. MC | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 21 2011 02:10 netherDrake wrote: He hasn't lost a single zvz or zvp in any tournament he has participated so far. MVP and Nestea definitely deserve their spots, and I'd put MC in 3rd. As for the rest, you can't really rank them, I don't really think there's much disparity between a lot of the top players in korea. For me it would look like this. 1. MVP 2. Nestea 3. MC IDK haha I think Nestea's non ZvT is better than MVP's TvZ. I think the only reason Nestea is not better than MVP is because of the current state of Zerg, particularly ZvT. | ||
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