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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#21
I don't know which one to use = ( Box within a box or rolled up paper... TIME FOR A POLL
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#22
was no parachutes the teacher's rule? you wouldn't be able to make a big enough parachute with 7 pages anyways. but 1 piece of paper in a cone will protect an egg as long as your landing is perfect. i would make a cone out of 2 pieces of paper, crumple a third and put it in the nose, and then make some awesome fins out of the 4 other pieces
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 17 2011 02:57 GMT
#23
On February 17 2011 11:56 starfries wrote:
was no parachutes the teacher's rule? you wouldn't be able to make a big enough parachute with 7 pages anyways. but 1 piece of paper in a cone will protect an egg as long as your landing is perfect. i would make a cone out of 2 pieces of paper, crumple a third and put it in the nose, and then make some awesome fins out of the 4 other pieces

Yes no parachute was a rule, also would the fins really make the cone go down straight more? I tried it with out fins and it landed on it's side and splat.
Galaxy77
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hong Kong256 Posts
February 17 2011 02:59 GMT
#24
I think an ice cream cone with *legs* of rolled paper, the legs soften the impact and provide balance when the tip of the cone hits the ground, it should work out well. Make sure the cone is very tight and the egg is fairly high up (the higher the better, but if its too high it might fall off)
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#25
On February 17 2011 11:57 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
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On February 17 2011 11:56 starfries wrote:
was no parachutes the teacher's rule? you wouldn't be able to make a big enough parachute with 7 pages anyways. but 1 piece of paper in a cone will protect an egg as long as your landing is perfect. i would make a cone out of 2 pieces of paper, crumple a third and put it in the nose, and then make some awesome fins out of the 4 other pieces

Yes no parachute was a rule, also would the fins really make the cone go down straight more? I tried it with out fins and it landed on it's side and splat.

yes the fins are really important for getting a good landing. if you've ever played with one of these in comparison with a normal nerf football you'll know what i'm talking about.
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
February 17 2011 03:10 GMT
#26
i've seen this done just by wrapping the egg in tape. 1m might be enough to hold the egg together so that even if it cracks it doesn't leak.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 17 2011 03:10 GMT
#27
Notice that a box in a box is really the same as the straw-jack. The more I think about it, the more the outside box is unnecessary.
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 17 2011 03:14 GMT
#28
On February 17 2011 12:00 starfries wrote:
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On February 17 2011 11:57 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
On February 17 2011 11:56 starfries wrote:
was no parachutes the teacher's rule? you wouldn't be able to make a big enough parachute with 7 pages anyways. but 1 piece of paper in a cone will protect an egg as long as your landing is perfect. i would make a cone out of 2 pieces of paper, crumple a third and put it in the nose, and then make some awesome fins out of the 4 other pieces

Yes no parachute was a rule, also would the fins really make the cone go down straight more? I tried it with out fins and it landed on it's side and splat.

yes the fins are really important for getting a good landing. if you've ever played with one of these in comparison with a normal nerf football you'll know what i'm talking about.
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Those fins are sturdy, so i should roll up some more tubes then flatten them to make them look like fins?
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
February 17 2011 03:15 GMT
#29
Pick the straws and make a hypertetrahedron with the egg at the center.

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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 17 2011 03:17 GMT
#30
boil the egg, and it'll be able to resist much more impact
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
February 17 2011 03:25 GMT
#31
Go for the straws.

I can think of a few ways that you can make a framework that will absorb the impact without affecting the egg as much, and also ensure that it will hit the ground and not transfer most of the force of the impact to the egg.

A cone is a good idea, except you actually want it to hit the ground on the circle face, not on the tip. This is because that when it hits the ground at the tip, it will absorb a bunch of the force, however, it will also tip over when it hits the ground and then smash the egg straight on the ground anyways (or at least transfer a lot of the impact to the egg)..... If you hit with the circle face, it will crumple without tipping, which is exactly what you want it to do.
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~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
February 17 2011 03:25 GMT
#32
I've been a physics teacher in a previous life. My head of department would always smirk about how the egg drop used to be a Year 7 experiment, then Yr 8, then Yr. 9 etc. during his 30+ years of service. At the time we were doing the experiment for Yr. 10's. I guess the dumbing down process continues...

Anyway the most successful ones I've been witness to have been very simple. Just get the paper and make a large amount of corrugations, just fold it into v-shapes so each piece of paper supports the other. Add tape. Tape the surface of the egg to stop cracks from propagating across the shell. Tape the egg to the topmost sheet. Put straws wherever you like (not really necessary).

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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 03:29:30
February 17 2011 03:27 GMT
#33
On February 17 2011 12:14 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
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On February 17 2011 12:00 starfries wrote:
On February 17 2011 11:57 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
On February 17 2011 11:56 starfries wrote:
was no parachutes the teacher's rule? you wouldn't be able to make a big enough parachute with 7 pages anyways. but 1 piece of paper in a cone will protect an egg as long as your landing is perfect. i would make a cone out of 2 pieces of paper, crumple a third and put it in the nose, and then make some awesome fins out of the 4 other pieces

Yes no parachute was a rule, also would the fins really make the cone go down straight more? I tried it with out fins and it landed on it's side and splat.

yes the fins are really important for getting a good landing. if you've ever played with one of these in comparison with a normal nerf football you'll know what i'm talking about.
[image loading]

Those fins are sturdy, so i should roll up some more tubes then flatten them to make them look like fins?

ok I got curious so I actually tried this
I used 2 pieces of paper. one I put in a cone and the other I taped flat over the top (so the whole thing looks like a T)
it survived but the way it fell over sideways was kind of alarming, so I would recommend putting smaller cones pointing sideways to reduce the side impact.

A cone is a good idea, except you actually want it to hit the ground on the circle face, not on the tip. This is because that when it hits the ground at the tip, it will absorb a bunch of the force, however, it will also tip over when it hits the ground and then smash the egg straight on the ground anyways (or at least transfer a lot of the impact to the egg)..... If you hit with the circle face, it will crumple without tipping, which is exactly what you want it to do.

this is also a good point
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 03:29:17
February 17 2011 03:28 GMT
#34
make a cylinder and then put fins on the side that are slanted. Use any extra paper to make a crush zone at the bottom of the cylinder which will cushion the egg. The fins make the thing spin which decelerates and keeps it pointed downwards so that the egg will land on the cushion. Did that like 5 years ago when I had to do this experiment and could do 35m okay.

Edit: If you choose to go the paper route do this.
Sonikhawk121
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States21 Posts
February 17 2011 03:30 GMT
#35
If you're trying to make sure the egg doesn't crack, and odds are the egg is going to impact something as it hits the ground, shouldn't you focus on ensuring that you stretch out the amount of time the impact is so that the overall impulse isn't that dramatic? (Not sure, but basically what I'm saying is do some cushioning) Unless the idea is to create a structure that doesn't break the egg, either way if you make it too rigid, the egg's inertia and momentum will just smash it into the inner lining of your now rigid structure. Once again, not sure. I'm very possibly completely mistaken.
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 17 2011 03:30 GMT
#36
I got a feelings the cone one might be the best way, my idea is that make a cone out of 1 sheet of paper, put some rolled up taper tube paddings on the inside of the cone and now what? = P
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
February 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#37
I'd do the jack shape, or hypertetrahedron with fat straws

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I can't possibly see an egg breaking if you constructed that well
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#38
On February 17 2011 12:28 ZeaL. wrote:
make a cylinder and then put fins on the side that are slanted. Use any extra paper to make a crush zone at the bottom of the cylinder which will cushion the egg. The fins make the thing spin which decelerates and keeps it pointed downwards so that the egg will land on the cushion. Did that like 5 years ago when I had to do this experiment and could do 35m okay.

Edit: If you choose to go the paper route do this.

Wait so the fins are slanted upwards right?
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
February 17 2011 03:41 GMT
#39
No kidding, I did this about 3 times with 3 groups of kids and presented the least effort/most effective, most successful way above. The corrugations should be about one inch wide.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
February 17 2011 03:46 GMT
#40
On February 17 2011 12:27 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
A cone is a good idea, except you actually want it to hit the ground on the circle face, not on the tip. This is because that when it hits the ground at the tip, it will absorb a bunch of the force, however, it will also tip over when it hits the ground and then smash the egg straight on the ground anyways (or at least transfer a lot of the impact to the egg)..... If you hit with the circle face, it will crumple without tipping, which is exactly what you want it to do.

this is also a good point

Which will be very difficult to accomplish with paper, because of air resistance..... With a straw framework, you won't really have to worry about that.
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