EPTOn February 15 2011 17:19 DivinO wrote:
Wait is this at CMU?
Wait is this at CMU?
cmu has frats and women?
Life in a Frat House - Page 2
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
cmu has frats and women? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
i recall cmu has frats from people i knew, women maybe not so much, but i haven't been there... as for the writing i actually got bored when it got around " the summarizing" part, but i already knew what was going to be said way early on. actually who am i kidding the end story was pretty boring too >_<, but i dont care about the frat life so yeah biased opinion. | ||
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DaBears57
United States300 Posts
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
some people see tfm as a guide, i see it as a checklist. you see this bag? its full of my fucks. you don't get any. I will give you zero fucks. somebody told me women are a marathon, not a sprint. i sprint marathons, bro mighta butchered a little but this video has some great lines. this guy isn't serious, although theres certainly a lot of frat guys who would see this and think he is. he highlights a bunch of idealized frat boy stereotypes in a funny way. i also suggest finding the "frat flex off" video if you liked this one but i feel like you're looking for some analysis on behalf of greeks, not just my reaction: this last week my frat and another on campus partied together. they are the most bro people ive ever met, not even in a self aware way, just literally dumb meatheads. at first i thought they were joking and i had a moment where i literally couldn't accept in my head they really excisted. when it comes to "bro" guys, there are a couple different kinds, you have the dumb meathead general douche although he might actually be pretty nice and genuine, the self-aware "bro" like the guy in the video (basically they troll real life with how "frat" they are) and then the anti-bro sector. i guess you can have selective self-aware bros, i like dressing fratty because it looks nice and ill chant and go to the gym a lot but never in public or in front of people who know im not serious. basically ill pick and choose the things i like about being "frat." however i never like being a douche bag or making a big deal about how im in a frat. well actually, the douche bag part, when fuckers are talking real loud on the phone or to friends in the library i will be a complete ass to them. it really pisses me off, im trying to study do that shit elsewhere. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
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Illusion.
United States348 Posts
im also in a frat, and i was in the EXACT same position as you. IT CHANGED MY LIFE. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
Friday, 2:30 p.m.: Done with classes, drive ~3 hours to lake of ozarks for friend's bachelor party Saturday, 12:00 a.m.: turn 21 (drinking age in USA) Saturday, 10:00 a.m.: be back home in time for concert dress rehearsal Saturday, 11:00 a.m.: start drinking again with alumni (best opportunity of year to network), try to hide that I turned 21 Saturday, 5:00 p.m.: Head off to Spring Formal. Spring formals a big deal because ALL the alumni in the area come with their wives or girlfriends. At this point the fact I'm freshly 21 will have gotten out and I will probably be bought upwards of 25 drinks whether I want them or not Sunday, 10:00 a.m. to Noon: Play concert at local salvation army and have lunch afterwards | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On March 29 2011 15:24 QuickStriker wrote: Definitely enjoyed the read. I like how you took the full advantage or most out of your fraternity and this story sorta gives me the vibes and motivation to enjoy myself more at my own than being a hermit of my own. 5/5! thanks. being a hermit feels good short term and horrible long term. just walked through my old dorm yesterday and the lounge was filled with freshmen guys who formed a wow guild. I genuinely regret spending time doing that On March 29 2011 17:26 Illusion. wrote: what frat are you in? im also in a frat, and i was in the EXACT same position as you. IT CHANGED MY LIFE. haha, yeah it definitely gave/is giving me opportunities to develop as a person | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
On March 29 2011 15:02 KurtistheTurtle wrote: LOL! my roommate was cracking up at this yesterday so i checked it out mighta butchered a little but this video has some great lines. this guy isn't serious, although theres certainly a lot of frat guys who would see this and think he is. he highlights a bunch of idealized frat boy stereotypes in a funny way. i also suggest finding the "frat flex off" video if you liked this one but i feel like you're looking for some analysis on behalf of greeks, not just my reaction: this last week my frat and another on campus partied together. they are the most bro people ive ever met, not even in a self aware way, just literally dumb meatheads. at first i thought they were joking and i had a moment where i literally couldn't accept in my head they really excisted. when it comes to "bro" guys, there are a couple different kinds, you have the dumb meathead general douche although he might actually be pretty nice and genuine, the self-aware "bro" like the guy in the video (basically they troll real life with how "frat" they are) and then the anti-bro sector. i guess you can have selective self-aware bros, i like dressing fratty because it looks nice and ill chant and go to the gym a lot but never in public or in front of people who know im not serious. basically ill pick and choose the things i like about being "frat." however i never like being a douche bag or making a big deal about how im in a frat. well actually, the douche bag part, when fuckers are talking real loud on the phone or to friends in the library i will be a complete ass to them. it really pisses me off, im trying to study do that shit elsewhere. Pretty accurate. I know some good frat guys but there are also a lot who are the normal dicks. Now, I go to UT Austin, which is one of the largest universities in the US (over 50,000 people) and it has a lot of frats (but, because we have so many people, they're not a majority of the students). There are parties all the time (we normally get voted as the number 1 party school in the US), especially in "West Campus" which is, literally, just off the west side of where the school buildings are. Personally, I knew I never wanted to join a frat. I'm not that kind of guy. I've taken an aptitude test, and, on the attached personality part, I was classified as an "ambivert" who leans to the extrovert side. Basically, I'm sociable and like being with friends but also value having alone time and can get along by myself. I don't like massive parties; I prefer smaller apartment parties where I know most of the people. Meeting people is great, it's just that I don't feel like not knowing anyone at a party since that's just not as fun to me. I go out with friends fairly often and am happy with the life I have in college, but I'm probably not what you'd call an "avid partier." Actually, it might not be too much of a stretch to say that I'm average. This long wind-up is basically to say that I totally understand where you're coming from and more power to you for making the choice. I think I would have done okay there, too, but I feel really content where I am. Also, major props for having your birthday this Saturday: it's my 21st, too!!! | ||
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shinjin
United States398 Posts
what fraternity are you in OP? just curious | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On March 30 2011 09:12 shinjin wrote: kappa siggg all day what fraternity are you in OP? just curious pm'd to prevent any sort of liability because i will blatantly answer any question i dont want the name of my fraternity in this thread. if you want to know pm me or ask on here and ill pm you | ||
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unDef
United States85 Posts
I'm currently the Membership Chair but man I'll tell you what... It is quite difficult to recruit I believe at a D2 school. I also am tired of hearing people trash talking Fraternities. If your National Organization is respectable and doing their job, they will make sure you are holding up your side of the bargain. Yes, there is partying and lots of fun, but at the same time it is not all fun and games. We (Greeks) do more philanthropy, community service, scholarship events, etc. then nearly any other organization on campus. If anybody talks shit to me or says something like "i haven't tried it but it isn't for me" without a legitimate reason, I honestly believe they are ignorant wastes of time. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:48 unDef wrote: I also am tired of hearing people trash talking Fraternities. If your National Organization is respectable and doing their job, they will make sure you are holding up your side of the bargain. Yes, there is partying and lots of fun, but at the same time it is not all fun and games. We (Greeks) do more philanthropy, community service, scholarship events, etc. then nearly any other organization on campus. If anybody talks shit to me or says something like "i haven't tried it but it isn't for me" without a legitimate reason, I honestly believe they are ignorant wastes of time. I dont care when people talk shit on the greek system, sometimes they even have legitimate reasons and stories opposed to the regular media/church fueled pseudo-hatred. I used to, I used to feel like I had to defend everything greek. Then I realized the entire thing is so big, so what if they hate a specific part. That's not me, and if they have a problem with me then its a problem with ME. but it is fun sometimes. theres a chapter of APO here (national co-ed service fraternity) who think they're hot shit because they're really big, and although they have greek letters they..they are a collection of loosely associated people in a club, take anybody who wants in and pad resumes after doing an hour at the local ymca which they complain about before and after. greek but not greek at all. one day this apo gal saw my letters and decided to give me shit about how we don't do anything for the community. I asked her how many hours total her organization did, and when she told me I said "wow thats a lot. thats nearly as much as me and my two roommates did this semester." my fraternity logs more service time than all the other organizations on campus combined by more than twice over. i love getting into philanthropy fights because i know everything about mine, truly believe in it and can back that shit up. and anybody who says its not for them and they haven't tried it, doesnt matter who they think they are: put them in a party with all their good friends who they go through thick and thin with and they like it. if anybody is truly exposed to the inner core of what my fraternity is, it might truly not be for them but they will be touched by it. for recruitment...theres a lot to say. when i joined my chapter was slowly dwindling. we didn't have a defined sense of who we were or who we wanted to be, just an amorphous idea. i spent well over 50 hours reading about recruitment, reading books, talking to people, researching and more reading to develop a cohesive analysis of how to turn this around. i sat down for a long time with our rush chair and went through everything. this was last fall. this most previous spring semester, only 30 guys rushed in the spring. we got 11 new members, other organizations were lucky to get 1 or 2. not only did we get a bunch, but they're all really good guys. most of them didn't expect to go greek at all but due to the different kinds of focus and exposure they came to our events. we stressed we shouldn't be the only place they check out, the guys who went to other frat's stuff came back more sure of their decision to be with us. we gave out 12 bids, 12 were accepted but one guy had to drop because of other reasons. he plans on joining when he can later. couple things which need to happen and be understood before you even start recruiting or it will become the typical dreaded rush week then everything goes back to regular. 1) your organization is defined by every individual action of its members. we see everything from the inside, but people on the outside only see incredibly thin slices of the whole. 2) your organization exists in ideas outside of anything you can touch, although you will touch and be touched by it. 3) if your organization doesn't have a defined and unified idea of what it is, create it and enforce it. 4) now that you have this firm ground, cultivate it and make it as attractive as possible. 5) what you're selling during rush is YOU. make sure it is the best product possible then for rush 1) define what kind of people you want and how you'll judge them, don't take people for numbers. even if it starts out small, this process will enlarge given time. quality tends to lead to more quality 2) be aware of what you are and where you are. what kind of people come to your school? how will you appeal to them? real quick example: school has ~5,000 people, 10% are greek. this means every rush there will always be the guys who are set on joining a frat and who will take whatever they can get. theres always another 20% who hate anything greek, then theres like 70% who are on the fence but never move past indecision. its this 70% we want to target. my fraternity is mid-sized (soon to be large) on a campus which attracts a lot of people really focused on school. i did a project to completely revamp our study area/room and stressed how we maintain consistently top 3 org. gpa on campus. where some frats attract a certain kind of guy, we lack that uniformity while maintaining non clique-ness. theres a lot more i can say but im running out of time so im done for now oh and 3) it isnt just one week. its the entire year, everywhere all the time. ive been on the gravy train ever since last night at 9 and im keeping it strong. 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