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Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
February 06 2011 02:57 GMT
#1
In professional poker when pros challenge each other online heads-up, they tend to do it in mix games. They will have like 3 tables running and alternating between Holdem and PLO after every 100 hands or whatever. The two games may look similar, but they are in fact very different. So in essence, they are playing 2 different games when the challenge each other to a game of "Poker"

I'm sure by now you guys know where I'm going with this. If Holdem and PLO can have that kind of relationship, why not BW and SC2. We can categorize the game as "Starcraft". Example: when 1 player challenges another player to a BO5 "Starcraft" match, they can have alternating games of BW and SC2, where the loser picks the game and map. I'm sure some obvious problems arise, like people with BW background will always pick BW after losing in SC2 and vice versa, but that's kinda how it happens in poker too. Sometimes a player will lose chunks of money during the PLO session, but make it all back during Holdem (*cough isildur *cough). Ultimately, a player who is skilled in both games will always come out on top.

What do you guys think? And more importantly... any challengers? ;P

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"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
February 06 2011 03:01 GMT
#2
One problem with it is loading up another game, also broodwar is so much more difficult mechanically (not starting a bw vs sc2 topic here so leave that out please) and requires so much practise that people will be put off it as they have spent plenty of time practising sc2 so why should they bother with BW.

Although it would be interesting for ex Bw players for sure ^^.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 03:04:14
February 06 2011 03:01 GMT
#3
I actually think that is a pretty cool idea! Count me in, I'll be a challenger haha

I love both games, and would be more than happy to play a combination of the two in a series
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 06 2011 03:02 GMT
#4
SC2 and BW play entirely differently. Also, nobody seems to like BW anymore, which breaks my heart.
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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
February 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#5
If they used the SC2:BW custom map it may be possible, but I think the difference between SC2 and BW is much greater than PLO and Texas Holdem.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#6
Well, isn't this akain to changing maps in a series in starcraft?

Scrap Station is going to play alot differently than a map say, cross positions of Metal. It looks like its still the same matchup, but its very different.

Throwing a few island/semi island maps would be interesting.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 03:30:23
February 06 2011 03:30 GMT
#7
yup, an island map would probably make it a different kind of game altogether (albeit with some of the same tactics maybe :p )
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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
February 06 2011 03:35 GMT
#8
i would totally do this if i could play sc2 as well as bw. awesome idea lol
aka DragOn[NaS]
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 03:52:59
February 06 2011 03:45 GMT
#9
People definitely have tried the bw/sc2 bo5's in grudge matches. I don't know if anyone tried to mix it like 1st game sc2 then loser picks map and either bw or sc2, though. That sounds like a cool idea.

The idea of an island map bo5 in bw sounds fun too. Of course semi-island maps being included because there aren't a lot of actual "pure" island maps. Loser picking maps.
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m1LkmaN
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia82 Posts
February 06 2011 03:49 GMT
#10
SCBW and SCII require great mechanics to play at a high level, while poker has no mechanics. The time required to play various poker games at a high level compared to just one game is far less than the difference between playing just one SC or both.
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
February 06 2011 04:17 GMT
#11
Mechanics are tough to acquire, but impossible to forget. It's like riding a bike, you can get rusty but you never forget once you learned. Mechanics shouldn't stop you from having fun with this

Sure island maps will add a whole new dynamics to the game, but it's difficult to balance etc. However, my goal isn't to change the game up. I'm more focused on trying to unite BW and SC2
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
February 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#12
On February 06 2011 12:02 PH wrote:
SC2 and BW play entirely differently. Also, nobody seems to like BW anymore, which breaks my heart.


I always liked BW! :D
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 05:25:35
February 06 2011 05:25 GMT
#13
On February 06 2011 12:02 PH wrote:
SC2 and BW play entirely differently. Also, nobody seems to like BW anymore, which breaks my heart.


It breaks my heart to hear you think that nobody seems to like BW anymore. Seems like all of us in the BW section is nobody to you.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
February 06 2011 05:27 GMT
#14
may not seem like it, but every1 still does.
aka DragOn[NaS]
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
February 06 2011 05:32 GMT
#15
Aces are good hands in both Omaha and Holdem but Archons are only good in Brood War.

Fuck.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 05:40:48
February 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#16
On February 06 2011 12:02 PH wrote:
SC2 and BW play entirely differently. Also, nobody seems to like BW anymore, which breaks my heart.


Lies. BW still loved by plenty of people, op teamliquid and icc are still running great; just got done being raped by noone and LRM)Game in a 2v4 team melee.

Korean proscene is doing fine (except maybe for lawsuit), I haven't noticed any massive drops in attendance.

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
February 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#17
Let's try not to turn this into BW vs SC2, but rather BW + SC2
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 06 2011 06:38 GMT
#18
I don't actually see any BW v SC2. Just some reassurances that people are still playing BW.

In any event, I think the idea would be fun, doing it as a tournament would take awhile; though it would be alot of fun. The challenge is that for anything meaningful you would probably need a BO5 format, which would take a while especially with changing games. I'd still play though if something got setup.

I'd play anyone at this format if they want to on an individual basis as well.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
February 06 2011 10:36 GMT
#19
sounds sorta manner. id do sc/sc2 or nlhe/plo battles. or some amalgamation of all 4 ;p
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Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
February 06 2011 11:10 GMT
#20
Because it's like saying hey lets play a mix of counter strike and halo. two completely different games and you have to spend tons of time in both to get any where you can't just pick up and play while dif games of poker retain the same idea.
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 12:24:54
February 06 2011 12:23 GMT
#21
On February 06 2011 12:02 PH wrote:
SC2 and BW play entirely differently. Also, nobody seems to like BW anymore, which breaks my heart.


BW is still alive yo.

On topic, wouldn't work. BW and SC2 are too different, both strategically and mechanically. People would spend 99% of their time in 1 game then cheese the other.
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