EPTwhy anyone would want to work in a place like that is beyond me.
on the male nurse note; why are nurses mainly women? why is the gay-stamp there?
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rev.elation
Sweden84 Posts
why anyone would want to work in a place like that is beyond me. on the male nurse note; why are nurses mainly women? why is the gay-stamp there? | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier. -The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male. -Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other) -Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high. | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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DeseaseR
46 Posts
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!! | ||
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crazeman
664 Posts
On January 10 2011 13:03 rev.elation wrote: While I was rushed to the hospital for double cramp attacks i got a little insane, thought they were turning me into a cyborg and started to throw grapes at the staff, got to wrestle with the security and tried to escape once as well as trying to avoid any form of co-operation with the "evil" staff of the dungeon keeping me hostage. why anyone would want to work in a place like that is beyond me. on the male nurse note; why are nurses mainly women? why is the gay-stamp there? lol gay stamp. I guess it's kinda like the crazy 'all single middle age men hanging out in parks are pedos' stereotype. You can always go into the fashion industry... My friend tells me that it has a 90% female and most of the male population is gay. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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Maero
349 Posts
Even the music on that site instantly made me happy. In any case, nursing sounds okay. Don't box yourself into a corner though, it's pretty common for people to switch majors during their college stay - and high school is way too early to know for sure what you want to do for the rest of your life. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On January 10 2011 13:36 eLiE wrote: ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away. -I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier. -The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male. -Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other) -Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high. Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field. But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
How many of you are or know people who say: "I don't know what to do for the rest of my life" when they hit 2nd to 4th year of high school and need to set a plan for their career. I knew exactly what I wanted to do in high school second year. I had known it for years, since I was in sixth grade in fact. I wanted to become an architect. I wanted to wow the world, to show everyone that they were capable of true potential and beauty in design. Then going into my senior year, my parents came up to me and asked me what I wanted to do with my life. I told them, and they wouldn't have it. "architecture is a bad career" "in this job market no one is building anything" "you'll have to work up and do construction" "No one will hire you since you have no connections". I didn't care if I had to do backbreaking labor, design and architecture was everything to me, it was my purpose in life. But my parents had a point. Architecture was a horrible field, often being ranked as the most under-appreciated job in articles. People didn't make much money. They had to work extra hours to meet deadlines. And on top of having to take engineering, they also had to arts courses. (in retrospect, it's just arts courses). I argued with them several times. They wanted me to do pharmacy or biomedical or some other healthcare related field for the same reasons your parents wanted you to do what you did. I wouldn't have it... I was too idealistic. We argued for days, months, eventually compromising that I go into computer engineering. To them hardware engineering was acceptable. It was a stable career, that paid well, and didn't necessarily overwork people. And during high school, I had programmed just for fun. My high school didn't offer any programming or similar courses, but I learned how to make web sites, program calculators, and robots just because I thought it was fun. I did robotics club not because my parents wanted me to but rather because I liked robots and computers. Unbeknownst to myself, I had been grooming myself to become a computer engineer. Everyone at my school knew me as the resident computer guy. "Fix this projector" "This teacher needs some help with word". I had no intention of doing electrical work. When I applied for schools, I applied to most schools as a computer engineer, but I applied to Northeastern as a Pharm D major (Northeastern's hardest program, a 6 year doctorate), I got in.. but 40-50k tuition is a bit too steep. I didn't want it even though my parents wanted me to, so instead I came to the University of Toronto to be a computer engineer. It's been tough. I never knew any human being worked this hard. There are still people who work harder. We have girls in this major, but not many. The exact percentage of females in computer engineering is 14%. Coming in, I didn't care. I didn't need to find a girlfriend, and most of my computer engineering friends with girlfriends are dating arts and science majors. Now I care more, but girls are girls. I enjoy hanging out with them when I can. More often it seems to be either online or with arts majors. I'm not completely devoid of female contact. Still... to some degree, I knew I sold out. I didn't become an architect. Classes.. they can sometimes be enjoying, but I don't dare to call them fun. I'd rather be doing an individual project, hacking, or building a business site than designing servers, linked lists, or building circuits and doing calculus problems (what we mostly do). Not to mention, eventually even the things that are enjoyable just start to eat into your time, cause you to eat less, sleep less, and get physically sick. These days I don't know who I am. I don't try hard enough in school. I almost always get distracted by teamliquid or some other interest: music, parties. I like to think that I still want to follow through with my self defined purpose. I still want to change the world. A lot of us engineers think this way, we want to have an impact on the world. I still think I'm smart, regardless of what my grades say. I always catch myself thinking this way subconsciously, that I'm smarter than everyone. I just don't know how I'll do it. I don't know if I'll be able to get a summer internship, a job once I graduate, I just don't know. I almost want to sell out more, to go into the specialization that's easiest or the one that is easiest to find a job in regardless of interest. I don't want to go to grad school. I know I'm not smart enough to do it here and my marks aren't good enough for admissions to US schools. In the end, I have hope that I will make the right choices and my life will turn out fine. I'll go into the army as an engineer if I have to, or I'll do something completely unrelated to my major; a relief worker for example. It's interesting to note, you didn't pick what you were most interested in or what you thought would allow you to have the largest direct impact on the world. You did what you thought was most sensible. Guidance counselors don't tell you to do that. Yet you seem to be very happy with your life. I guess I could say that I'm very happy too, as long as I keep passing everything, and thinking that these people I've met are my real friends. | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On January 10 2011 16:02 Haemonculus wrote: Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field. But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc. Don't even try that bullshit. I've done extensive research on the issue and I think it's fair that I can list some reasons while it remains a female profession. I've read about many men who've absolutely hated nursing because of discrimination/social isolation. I'm sick of hearing about how men can't complain about inequalities because of women having to fight for their rights. Do your research before you act like a prick. | ||
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Elegance
Canada917 Posts
On January 10 2011 15:09 DeseaseR wrote: LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !! and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!! This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On January 10 2011 22:54 Elegance wrote: This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D Despite the negatives, nursing is still a good profession so I'd go for it. Let me give you a stat that probably isn't completely accurate, but that's okay. Dentistry is the profession where people are most likely to commit suicide. No one likes going to the dentist  Professions most likely to make you wanna kill yourself | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
Currently a full-time nurse coming straight out of University makes $54,000 per year. Well i would love to be a nurse in Canada ! is it true number ? Cause here nurses make 2 maybe 3 times less O.O I would love to have you as a nurse. You would give me fresh information about TL :D I dont think so that i could do this job it seems extremely hard on psychic. I wish you good luck Im gonna become a nurse and fuck all the FEMALE nurses in that hospital... I think thats every nurse want to fuck a doctor not you. :D | ||
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TunaFishyMe
Canada150 Posts
I believe only Queen's and Ryerson have degree nursing programs. Everywhere else is a college degree but I may be wrong. I know a few nurses and i heard its pretty physically demanding (having to lift patients who fall off their bed, etc etc...) but I guess it depends on which unit you work in. The profession requires too much heart for me but good luck. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On January 10 2011 19:31 eLiE wrote: Don't even try that bullshit. I've done extensive research on the issue and I think it's fair that I can list some reasons while it remains a female profession. I've read about many men who've absolutely hated nursing because of discrimination/social isolation. I'm sick of hearing about how men can't complain about inequalities because of women having to fight for their rights. Do your research before you act like a prick. Wow angry angry. Did I say *anything* about men not being able to complain about discrimination? All I did was state that the real reason nursing is a stereotypically female profession is that for decades we were not allowed any other position in the medical field. Sure I made a few sarcastic remarks at your post blaming female "cattyness" for men feeling discriminated against. Trends die hard. | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On January 12 2011 07:52 Haemonculus wrote: Wow angry angry. Did I say *anything* about men not being able to complain about discrimination? All I did was state that the real reason nursing is a stereotypically female profession is that for decades we were not allowed any other position in the medical field. Sure I made a few sarcastic remarks at your post blaming female "cattyness" for men feeling discriminated against. Trends die hard. lol, sorry, I can get a bit angry, let's say nursing in general is an emotional topic for me. | ||
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DeseaseR
46 Posts
On January 10 2011 22:54 Elegance wrote: This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D And now I enrolled to become a nurse, I will start in march!!!  | ||
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Elegance
Canada917 Posts
On January 14 2011 03:20 DeseaseR wrote: And now I enrolled to become a nurse, I will start in march!!! Excellent choice my friend, you won't regret it | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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