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Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 02:31:59
January 10 2011 02:26 GMT
#1
How many of you are or know people who say: "I don't know what to do for the rest of my life" when they hit 2nd to 4th year of high school and need to set a plan for their career.

I was one of those people once. I loved biology and chemistry while in high school, so I figured I would go in that direction. Like most parents would, my parents told me to become a doctor. I didn't know what I was getting into when I agreed, but I soon found out that it would be insanely tough.

Just before the start of the crucial stretch of my last year in high school, I figured it out. I am going to be a nurse. This probably isn't what's on many of the boys' minds especially at that age, but I looked at it from a more rational perspective. Economy was bad, but in Canada, it doesn't matter if the economy goes to shits or not, people are going to get sick. Also, the babyboomer generation is approaching retirement age, which opens up spots as a nurse (and any other profession for that matter) however, more nurses will be in demand to take care of the aging population.

Currently a full-time nurse coming straight out of University makes $54,000 per year. However that number is deceiving because of the amount of overtime that nurses have to work plus the extras that come with night and evening shifts. Plus, in Ontario especially, the Nursing union is very strong. It is a very safe job, great pension etc. But that's not where it ends. I could do a masters program and become a nurse manager ($100k+), or do a one year masters program for Nurse Practitioner which can do pretty much everything a Doctor can do (also $100k+).

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't let the fact that nursing is a "female profession" get in your way. It is a well-paid profession and the undergrad is only 4 years. The amount of flexibility is huge too, as you can choose to apply for med school afterwards, and have your nursing degree to fall back on, and even choose some of the options listed above.

Well, that was my effort to recruit other males into becoming nurses, I am currently a first year nursing student in Ontario Canada I hope I at least gave you another option to perhaps explore.

EDIT: Also worth noting is the ability to go around the world and still be able to find a job without problem is very appealing too. The classes are very enjoyable and so are the girls.

*
Power of Ze
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
January 10 2011 02:33 GMT
#2
When I went to the doctors the other day, it was Nurse Kevin who put his ear to my chest, and listened for a chest infection.

That could be you some day.
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Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
January 10 2011 02:35 GMT
#3
On January 10 2011 11:33 arthur wrote:
When I went to the doctors the other day, it was Nurse Kevin who put his ear to my chest, and listened for a chest infection.

That could be you some day.

Maybe it's just me, but this was a super cute post in reply. ^_~
you are perfect porcelain.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 10 2011 02:41 GMT
#4
Oh, Elegance! Nursing is a great option to get a safe job, also great way to meet girls as most of the classes that you're taking will be filled with them. A question that I have is how much overtime is it usually per week, and can you handle the stress level if you worked on the job?
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 10 2011 02:45 GMT
#5
On January 10 2011 11:41 Phelix wrote:
Oh, Elegance! Nursing is a great option to get a safe job, also great way to meet girls as most of the classes that you're taking will be filled with them. A question that I have is how much overtime is it usually per week, and can you handle the stress level if you worked on the job?

Not too sure about the amount of overtime per week, Id imagine it varies a lot. I think I can take the stress, I usually take things well when it is upon me.

Also, my year, I am one of 4 guys in the program, and there are roughly 90 girls. The entire year takes every class together (exact same schedules), and 4/5 those classes are JUST us, no one from other faculties, mainly because its such specialized education
Power of Ze
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 10 2011 02:53 GMT
#6
Yeah. I've encountered a fair few male nurses in my extensive time in hospitals lolz.

Although having a male nurse remove a catheter is awkward. Not to say a female isn't awkward either lol.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 03:00:37
January 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#7
Murse here. Hoping to go on to school to be a nurse anesthetist in a couple of years.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 10 2011 03:01 GMT
#8
The only thing I think of when I hear "nurse" is the nurse joy outfit... oh god T.T
:)
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 03:13:41
January 10 2011 03:13 GMT
#9
My parents made me go into nursing before going to med school in case I fail so I can have a job. It's caused some arguments, but now I've decided to make the best out of the situation and do my best. I'll take an extra year to do science courses and my MCAT, then go for it. Right now I'm in second year. I have to warn people, it can be isolating for guys in the program (you can be friends with girls, but ultimately you're still a guy), and there are still douche bags who will try to make fun of you for being in a feminine profession. I've found that in the uni program, they try way too hard to make it a legitimate profession, teaching so much theory bullshit (conceptual models for caring are just not necessary), and some of the classes just feel like a waste of time. I'll admit though, it's a fine job, that will probably work you into the ground just as much as a job as a doctor, but it's not for me. That's why FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!

Sidenote: Guys will likely be more successful in the profession due to sexism, especially if they excel academically (better jobs, faster advancement). Called the glass escalator for men and glass ceiling for women. Additionally, some provinces pay males more money because of the demand. Not the morally greatest, but I'm not above keeping that in mind. Also lots of specialization.

Still looking for a mursing t-shirt...
How's the weather down there?
whojohnisgalt
Profile Joined December 2010
93 Posts
January 10 2011 03:13 GMT
#10
Yeah being a nurse sounds like a sick idea. four years of 95% female population in classes, oh god. and when you graduate your colleagues are 95% female as well. if you view employment as simply means to an end ($ and pussy) then nursing is probably a great profession to choose
kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
January 10 2011 03:20 GMT
#11
currently a phD student, not even know what to do with my life.
long term goal: create something that transform society
short term goal: finish the projects before deadline
^^
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#12
On January 10 2011 12:13 eLiE wrote:
My parents made me go into nursing before going to med school in case I fail so I can have a job. It's caused some arguments, but now I've decided to make the best out of the situation and do my best. I'll take an extra year to do science courses and my MCAT, then go for it. Right now I'm in second year. I have to warn people, it can be isolating for guys in the program (you can be friends with girls, but ultimately you're still a guy), and there are still douche bags who will try to make fun of you for being in a feminine profession. I've found that in the uni program, they try way too hard to make it a legitimate profession, teaching so much theory bullshit (conceptual models for caring are just not necessary), and some of the classes just feel like a waste of time. I'll admit though, it's a fine job, that will probably work you into the ground just as much as a job as a doctor, but it's not for me. That's why FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!

Sidenote: Guys will likely be more successful in the profession due to sexism, especially if they excel academically (better jobs, faster advancement). Called the glass escalator for men and glass ceiling for women. Additionally, some provinces pay males more money because of the demand. Not the morally greatest, but I'm not above keeping that in mind. Also lots of specialization.

Still looking for a mursing t-shirt...

Agreed, however those glass ceiling/escalator are new terms for me. I knew there would be slight sexism advantage however, in a country like Canada, I thought it would be minimal I guess not...works to my advantage :p
Power of Ze
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 10 2011 03:31 GMT
#13
Read those in my year 2 adult development book, lol. I don't think it's minimal, I even see it in some of my teachers. I swear one old lady is hitting on me or something, every class (of like 150 people), she comes and does something weird like lean on my shoulder and ask how I'm doing, and she always asks me questions during lecture which I don't know the answer to cause I haven't read the book yet, and her lines of questioning are really confusing. She doesn't seem to mind.

But to anyone who wants to become a doctor after, don't tell people cause they think you're taking the seat of a potential nurse. Once my mom left me at the side of the road in the winter in a t-shirt because we were arguing about how I should be in a different program. A half and hour later, when I got to practice class late, I told the teacher what happened. For the next 6 weeks, every now and then the teacher would go on a rant about how people better be in the program because they want to be a nurse (or they can just go home), and how people trying to get good marks make bad nurses, and it was painfully obvious that she was talking about me. Sigh....

What school are you going to?
How's the weather down there?
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
January 10 2011 03:32 GMT
#14
You're name isn't Gaylord Focker is it?

BoT, I hear that xray techs are a similar thing to get into with similar pay.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#15
On January 10 2011 12:31 eLiE wrote:
Read those in my year 2 adult development book, lol. I don't think it's minimal, I even see it in some of my teachers. I swear one old lady is hitting on me or something, every class (of like 150 people), she comes and does something weird like lean on my shoulder and ask how I'm doing, and she always asks me questions during lecture which I don't know the answer to cause I haven't read the book yet, and her lines of questioning are really confusing. She doesn't seem to mind.

But to anyone who wants to become a doctor after, don't tell people cause they think you're taking the seat of a potential nurse. Once my mom left me at the side of the road in the winter in a t-shirt because we were arguing about how I should be in a different program. A half and hour later, when I got to practice class late, I told the teacher what happened. For the next 6 weeks, every now and then the teacher would go on a rant about how people better be in the program because they want to be a nurse (or they can just go home), and how people trying to get good marks make bad nurses, and it was painfully obvious that she was talking about me. Sigh....

What school are you going to?

I go to Queen's university
Power of Ze
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 10 2011 03:44 GMT
#16
I'm at Ryerson. I'm curious, what's the hot girl situation like? TBH, my program is really lacking, which is heartbreaking. I swear they are all in the art program. I've got my fingers crossed for 3rd year cause 2 other schools merge at Ryerson.
How's the weather down there?
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#17
On January 10 2011 12:44 eLiE wrote:
I'm at Ryerson. I'm curious, what's the hot girl situation like? TBH, my program is really lacking, which is heartbreaking. I swear they are all in the art program. I've got my fingers crossed for 3rd year cause 2 other schools merge at Ryerson.

Yeah Im picky but the hot girl situation here definitely was a mile below what I had expected, i mean out of like 90 people I thought there would be a lot of hot ones... currently theres like maybe 5 that are hotish
Power of Ze
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#18
lol, tragic. The recruiters lied to us.
How's the weather down there?
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
January 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#19
Balloons!!!!

http://www.twistedballoondoc.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#20
Whoa whoa whoa you're telling me you're in classes with 90% females all day and you didn't tell me? I thought most people were creeped out by male nurses... I certainly am though that is sort of stereotypical. You won't be gay when you're surrounded by beautiful girls though... whoever has the last laugh, eh?
Well seriously though, I never thought of nursing as a serious career for a man without people raising a couple of eyebrows over your sexuality. Granted most male nurses are PROBABLY straight but the stereotype persists with me... and getting checked by gay people or people who I presume are gay creeps me out
rev.elation
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 04:50:59
January 10 2011 04:03 GMT
#21
While I was rushed to the hospital for double cramp attacks i got a little insane, thought they were turning me into a cyborg and started to throw grapes at the staff, got to wrestle with the security and tried to escape once as well as trying to avoid any form of co-operation with the "evil" staff of the dungeon keeping me hostage.

why anyone would want to work in a place like that is beyond me.



on the male nurse note; why are nurses mainly women? why is the gay-stamp there?
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 10 2011 04:36 GMT
#22
ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away.

-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier.
-The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male.
-Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other)
-Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high.
How's the weather down there?
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 10 2011 04:36 GMT
#23
Meh the title was a bit misleading.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
January 10 2011 05:20 GMT
#24
Im gonna become a nurse and fuck all the FEMALE nurses in that hospital...
i dunno lol
DeseaseR
Profile Joined October 2010
46 Posts
January 10 2011 06:09 GMT
#25
LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !!
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!!
Lurking Since 2007
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 06:23:50
January 10 2011 06:23 GMT
#26
On January 10 2011 13:03 rev.elation wrote:
While I was rushed to the hospital for double cramp attacks i got a little insane, thought they were turning me into a cyborg and started to throw grapes at the staff, got to wrestle with the security and tried to escape once as well as trying to avoid any form of co-operation with the "evil" staff of the dungeon keeping me hostage.

why anyone would want to work in a place like that is beyond me.



on the male nurse note; why are nurses mainly women? why is the gay-stamp there?


lol gay stamp. I guess it's kinda like the crazy 'all single middle age men hanging out in parks are pedos' stereotype.

You can always go into the fashion industry... My friend tells me that it has a 90% female and most of the male population is gay.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 06:27:23
January 10 2011 06:26 GMT
#27
I like that you are fighting against stereotype though :D I think you choosing nursing is a worthwhile path that you'll enjoy (not saying this from experience, I just think you will). You should keep us updated!
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Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
January 10 2011 06:49 GMT
#28
On January 10 2011 12:51 FuDDx wrote:
Balloons!!!!

http://www.twistedballoondoc.com/


Even the music on that site instantly made me happy.

In any case, nursing sounds okay. Don't box yourself into a corner though, it's pretty common for people to switch majors during their college stay - and high school is way too early to know for sure what you want to do for the rest of your life.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 10 2011 07:02 GMT
#29
On January 10 2011 13:36 eLiE wrote:
ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away.

-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier.
-The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male.
-Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other)
-Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high.

Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field.

But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 07:20:18
January 10 2011 07:13 GMT
#30
How many of you are or know people who say: "I don't know what to do for the rest of my life" when they hit 2nd to 4th year of high school and need to set a plan for their career.


I knew exactly what I wanted to do in high school second year. I had known it for years, since I was in sixth grade in fact. I wanted to become an architect. I wanted to wow the world, to show everyone that they were capable of true potential and beauty in design.

Then going into my senior year, my parents came up to me and asked me what I wanted to do with my life. I told them, and they wouldn't have it. "architecture is a bad career" "in this job market no one is building anything" "you'll have to work up and do construction" "No one will hire you since you have no connections". I didn't care if I had to do backbreaking labor, design and architecture was everything to me, it was my purpose in life.

But my parents had a point. Architecture was a horrible field, often being ranked as the most under-appreciated job in articles. People didn't make much money. They had to work extra hours to meet deadlines. And on top of having to take engineering, they also had to arts courses. (in retrospect, it's just arts courses).

I argued with them several times. They wanted me to do pharmacy or biomedical or some other healthcare related field for the same reasons your parents wanted you to do what you did. I wouldn't have it... I was too idealistic. We argued for days, months, eventually compromising that I go into computer engineering.

To them hardware engineering was acceptable. It was a stable career, that paid well, and didn't necessarily overwork people. And during high school, I had programmed just for fun. My high school didn't offer any programming or similar courses, but I learned how to make web sites, program calculators, and robots just because I thought it was fun. I did robotics club not because my parents wanted me to but rather because I liked robots and computers. Unbeknownst to myself, I had been grooming myself to become a computer engineer. Everyone at my school knew me as the resident computer guy. "Fix this projector" "This teacher needs some help with word".

I had no intention of doing electrical work. When I applied for schools, I applied to most schools as a computer engineer, but I applied to Northeastern as a Pharm D major (Northeastern's hardest program, a 6 year doctorate), I got in.. but 40-50k tuition is a bit too steep. I didn't want it even though my parents wanted me to, so instead I came to the University of Toronto to be a computer engineer.

It's been tough. I never knew any human being worked this hard. There are still people who work harder.

We have girls in this major, but not many. The exact percentage of females in computer engineering is 14%. Coming in, I didn't care. I didn't need to find a girlfriend, and most of my computer engineering friends with girlfriends are dating arts and science majors. Now I care more, but girls are girls. I enjoy hanging out with them when I can. More often it seems to be either online or with arts majors. I'm not completely devoid of female contact.



Still... to some degree, I knew I sold out. I didn't become an architect.


Classes.. they can sometimes be enjoying, but I don't dare to call them fun. I'd rather be doing an individual project, hacking, or building a business site than designing servers, linked lists, or building circuits and doing calculus problems (what we mostly do). Not to mention, eventually even the things that are enjoyable just start to eat into your time, cause you to eat less, sleep less, and get physically sick.



These days I don't know who I am. I don't try hard enough in school. I almost always get distracted by teamliquid or some other interest: music, parties.

I like to think that I still want to follow through with my self defined purpose. I still want to change the world. A lot of us engineers think this way, we want to have an impact on the world.
I still think I'm smart, regardless of what my grades say. I always catch myself thinking this way subconsciously, that I'm smarter than everyone.

I just don't know how I'll do it. I don't know if I'll be able to get a summer internship, a job once I graduate, I just don't know. I almost want to sell out more, to go into the specialization that's easiest or the one that is easiest to find a job in regardless of interest.
I don't want to go to grad school. I know I'm not smart enough to do it here and my marks aren't good enough for admissions to US schools.



In the end, I have hope that I will make the right choices and my life will turn out fine.
I'll go into the army as an engineer if I have to, or I'll do something completely unrelated to my major; a relief worker for example.

It's interesting to note, you didn't pick what you were most interested in or what you thought would allow you to have the largest direct impact on the world. You did what you thought was most sensible. Guidance counselors don't tell you to do that. Yet you seem to be very happy with your life.

I guess I could say that I'm very happy too, as long as I keep passing everything, and thinking that these people I've met are my real friends.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 10:33:17
January 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#31
On January 10 2011 16:02 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 13:36 eLiE wrote:
ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away.

-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier.
-The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male.
-Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other)
-Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high.

Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field.

But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc.


Don't even try that bullshit. I've done extensive research on the issue and I think it's fair that I can list some reasons while it remains a female profession. I've read about many men who've absolutely hated nursing because of discrimination/social isolation. I'm sick of hearing about how men can't complain about inequalities because of women having to fight for their rights. Do your research before you act like a prick.
How's the weather down there?
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 10 2011 13:54 GMT
#32
On January 10 2011 15:09 DeseaseR wrote:
LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !!
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!!

This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D
Power of Ze
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 14:31:43
January 10 2011 14:31 GMT
#33
On January 10 2011 22:54 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 15:09 DeseaseR wrote:
LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !!
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!!

This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D


Despite the negatives, nursing is still a good profession so I'd go for it. Let me give you a stat that probably isn't completely accurate, but that's okay. Dentistry is the profession where people are most likely to commit suicide. No one likes going to the dentist

Professions most likely to make you wanna kill yourself
How's the weather down there?
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 15:52:13
January 10 2011 15:49 GMT
#34
Currently a full-time nurse coming straight out of University makes $54,000 per year.

Well i would love to be a nurse in Canada ! is it true number ? Cause here nurses make 2 maybe 3 times less O.O
I would love to have you as a nurse. You would give me fresh information about TL :D
I dont think so that i could do this job it seems extremely hard on psychic. I wish you good luck

Im gonna become a nurse and fuck all the FEMALE nurses in that hospital...

I think thats every nurse want to fuck a doctor not you. :D
TunaFishyMe
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada150 Posts
January 10 2011 21:01 GMT
#35
lol i went to Queen's too. But for EE.

I believe only Queen's and Ryerson have degree nursing programs. Everywhere else is a college degree but I may be wrong.
I know a few nurses and i heard its pretty physically demanding (having to lift patients who fall off their bed, etc etc...) but I guess it depends on which unit you work in. The profession requires too much heart for me but good luck.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 11 2011 22:52 GMT
#36
On January 10 2011 19:31 eLiE wrote:
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On January 10 2011 16:02 Haemonculus wrote:
On January 10 2011 13:36 eLiE wrote:
ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away.

-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier.
-The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male.
-Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other)
-Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high.

Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field.

But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc.


Don't even try that bullshit. I've done extensive research on the issue and I think it's fair that I can list some reasons while it remains a female profession. I've read about many men who've absolutely hated nursing because of discrimination/social isolation. I'm sick of hearing about how men can't complain about inequalities because of women having to fight for their rights. Do your research before you act like a prick.

Wow angry angry.

Did I say *anything* about men not being able to complain about discrimination?

All I did was state that the real reason nursing is a stereotypically female profession is that for decades we were not allowed any other position in the medical field. Sure I made a few sarcastic remarks at your post blaming female "cattyness" for men feeling discriminated against.

Trends die hard.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
January 11 2011 23:53 GMT
#37
On January 12 2011 07:52 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 19:31 eLiE wrote:
On January 10 2011 16:02 Haemonculus wrote:
On January 10 2011 13:36 eLiE wrote:
ROFL, the gay stamp. Well, for a stat, 1 or 2 of the prob 10 guys in my program is gay. I really do think in a lot of ways the nursing profession is pretty feminine, which scares some guys away.

-I wish there could be some official name change for the nursing profession, but those feminists would never have it. When the name nurse includes definitions such as nanny, and to breastfeed, it doesn't really attract guys to the field. Unfortunately the name doesn't have any concrete female connotation, only an implication, so it can't really be changed like fireman or mailman to firefighter or mail carrier.
-The general public believe it to be a job for females, any guys tend to get labelled as gay or feminine, or weirdos (I've read women sometimes refuse to let male nurses care for them, even though they don't care about doctors). Even now, in some places male nurse aren't allowed in delivery rooms. Kind of stupid when the OBGYN (labor and delivery doctor) is most likely a male.
-Males can feel awkward in this field. Girls still have cliques when they're adults, and the guys are sometimes outcast. While males can be more successful than women, the women know this and can be resentful. I've heard stories about nurses and teachers being bitchy to guys (and each other)
-Hard job in general. Burnout rate for new and old professionals is extremely high.

Or, you know, the fact that for decades women weren't *allowed* to be doctors and were relegated to the position of nurse if they wanted anything to do with the medical field.

But yeah, it's probably because women are catty. Stupid feminists holding men back, etc.


Don't even try that bullshit. I've done extensive research on the issue and I think it's fair that I can list some reasons while it remains a female profession. I've read about many men who've absolutely hated nursing because of discrimination/social isolation. I'm sick of hearing about how men can't complain about inequalities because of women having to fight for their rights. Do your research before you act like a prick.

Wow angry angry.

Did I say *anything* about men not being able to complain about discrimination?

All I did was state that the real reason nursing is a stereotypically female profession is that for decades we were not allowed any other position in the medical field. Sure I made a few sarcastic remarks at your post blaming female "cattyness" for men feeling discriminated against.

Trends die hard.


lol, sorry, I can get a bit angry, let's say nursing in general is an emotional topic for me.
How's the weather down there?
DeseaseR
Profile Joined October 2010
46 Posts
January 13 2011 18:20 GMT
#38
On January 10 2011 22:54 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 15:09 DeseaseR wrote:
LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !!
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!!

This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D

And now I enrolled to become a nurse, I will start in march!!!
Lurking Since 2007
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 14 2011 19:18 GMT
#39
On January 14 2011 03:20 DeseaseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 22:54 Elegance wrote:
On January 10 2011 15:09 DeseaseR wrote:
LOL this is exactly what is happening to me right now, I dont know if be a nurse or a dentist !!
and I just have 4 days to decide.. HELP!!!

This really depends where you are too. And obviously how long you would want to be in school for. I wouldn't give you an input on this because you know my opinion will be majorly biased towards nursing, but still, either are great professions, but TRY NURSING :D

And now I enrolled to become a nurse, I will start in march!!!

Excellent choice my friend, you won't regret it
Power of Ze
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
January 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#40
Dude, nursing is the shit right now. It's only 2 years and a GUARANTEED job. Male or Female or whatever that's stupid to consider. The point is that you will have a solid high paying job and that fucking rocks in this economy. go for it. I'm a Ph.D. in Genetics and a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA. Guess what? It's hard as hell for me to get anything at all! No body is hiring research scientists right now! I could only wish I did nursing instead! I could have spent 2 years in school, not 6 for Ph.D. and I would have a freaking job!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
January 14 2011 23:52 GMT
#41
i think being nurse is a very noble profession. maybe you should take some time to see beyond the money and think about how many people you will need to help everyday. hopefully you'd find more meaning
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