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So I figured enough with the qqing. Stuff happened today that would lead me to qq, but I think I'll instead talk about my history, how I joined TL, etc
So in the gool ol year of 2006! something happened. I had a crush (ooh, ahh) I was like 13, a 7th grader blah blah blah. Got a crush on a korean girl lolz. So of course I sat next to her whenever possible. And I got friendzoned, and my mom keeps on pestering us, and we still are good friends though 
But I digress. Anyways, sat next to her in 7th grade bio, and then some strange super materialistic korean girl came o.o She had super rich parents, spoke ~=no english, and had no willpower to learn any. So then I started tutoring her during SSR (silent sustained reading) and I really got into korean and korean culture etc etc
And then she said "I don't want to learn english w/e" lol
So I started looking to learn korean, because
1) I really hate spanish
2) I'm 12 and stupid
3) It's supposedly sorta easy
4) That korean girl is hella hot (at the time...)
So I'm prodding around on youtube looking for learn korean videos. I am scarred by the beast that is kpop, blah blah blah.
Another totally separate storyline this really strange sort of retarded guy who stalked me during PE liked starcraft a lot. He was BGH guy, but he kept on harassing me to get it. So I actually got the DEMO lol, and thought it was darn cool. I'd only ever played AOE.
So I'm looking on youtube and in related links (related links sucked 4 years ago lol) it had a game uploaded on jon 747. Of course I was confused by teh title and whatnot, but :/
So I watch this, find a video response by cholera, watch it, and I love it!
I've lurked tl since then ...
This was followed up by major back surgery two years later, and being confined to a chair/bed for a month I played a lot of iccup, and got to high D. lol
But basically as an emphasis I found starcraft because I was looking at korean culture, not the other way around 
In terms of korean I'm still interested in learning it. It's pretty awesome, culture is cool, there are job opportunities there, and I could translate fomos (sarcasm alert?)
Does anyone know of any good written materials?
This is a different note, but my mom is harassing me to give her a list of schools to visit over spring break. I mean, she cares, but I’m not entirely sure what I want to do in terms of a career. I was wondering if you guys had any ideas for
a) Majors
b) Schools
In terms of majors I’m interested in Economics, business, computer science, and history, (and Korean? ) but you really can’t do shit with a history degree, so disregard this
For schools I live in California, 4.2GPA, good extracurriculars, blah blah blah..
 
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cs at berke is top notch. you should take advantage of the fact that you are a california resident and see if you can get matriculated, although i don't know exactly how much easier it actually is.
i feel that econ, business and cs are all good majors, it really depends on what you are interested in.
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16953 Posts
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree.
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On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree.
My thought exactly. (well people have told me as such)
Doing a comp sci one and then going into an mBA might be a better choice.
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CA10824 Posts
what do your SATs look like? your potential list of schools will vary greatly depending on what it is
ie: <1800, 1800-2000, 2000-2200, >2200
if you are 2000+ check out USC. good business, good CS, ok econ, and if you're interested in history, you are kind of correct that the degree itself is semi-useless but it's a pretty standard pre-law major, so think about whether or not you have any interest in that field.
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His SATs are over 2300, I think. Or at least his PSATs were.
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On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree.
O.o
Have to disagree here - while it may not give you a lot of skills (comparatively), if you go to a decent enough school, you'll 99.9% get a decent paying job out of college, but you really need that business-personality, which is a bit annoying to put on when you aren't in the mood for it.
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On January 07 2011 14:51 LosingID8 wrote:
what do your SATs look like? your potential list of schools will vary greatly depending on what it is
ie: <1800, 1800-2000, 2000-2200, >2200
if you are 2000+ check out USC. good business, good CS, ok econ, and if you're interested in history, you are kind of correct that the degree itself is semi-useless but it's a pretty standard pre-law major, so think about whether or not you have any interest in that field.
2310 SAT
WOOTWOOT
Already was thinking of USC, cousin went there, advisor for MUN went there etc etc
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On January 07 2011 14:52 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree. O.o Have to disagree here - while it may not give you a lot of skills (comparatively), if you go to a decent enough school, you'll 99.9% get a decent paying job out of college, but you really need that business-personality, which is a bit annoying to put on when you aren't in the mood for it.
I would argue that an undergraduate business major is a less competitive candidate for "business" type jobs than is a finance major, or a computer science major, or a statistics major. If you want to go into business, then you should naturally be someone who is able to leverage a winning personality into success. If I were an employer, I'd rather see someone demonstrate that they have the ability to work hard and succeed. In most cases, this is not achieved via undergraduate business majors, wherein you pretty much just learn the basics of accounting and how to use powerpoint.
The reason top undergraduate business programs like the ones at Wharton are desired is because those students do show that they are able to succeed in the business world. Wharton's undergraduate curriculum is rigorous, intellectually demanding, and shows that a particular student is well-suited for a career in business. If you are a student at a less prestigious school and want to get into "business," I'd suggest choosing more substantial major such as mathematics or engineering. Seriously, as long as you have a personality, the rudiments of business knowledge, and an employable skill, you're primed for success in the business world.
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On January 07 2011 14:57 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 14:52 Comeh wrote:On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree. O.o Have to disagree here - while it may not give you a lot of skills (comparatively), if you go to a decent enough school, you'll 99.9% get a decent paying job out of college, but you really need that business-personality, which is a bit annoying to put on when you aren't in the mood for it. I would argue that an undergraduate business major is a less competitive candidate for "business" type jobs than is a finance major, or a computer science major, or a statistics major. If you want to go into business, then you should naturally be someone who is able to leverage a winning personality into success. If I were an employer, I'd rather see someone demonstrate that they have the ability to work hard and succeed. In most cases, this is not achieved via undergraduate business majors, wherein you pretty much just learn the basics of accounting and how to use powerpoint. The reason top undergraduate business programs like the ones at Wharton are desired is because those students do show that they are able to succeed in the business world. Wharton's undergraduate curriculum is rigorous, intellectually demanding, and shows that a particular student is well-suited for a career in business. If you are a student at a less prestigious school and want to get into "business," I'd suggest choosing more substantial major such as mathematics or engineering. Seriously, as long as you have a personality, the rudiments of business knowledge, and an employable skill, you're primed for success in the business world.
Yeah. I figured if I wanted to do business (get an official business degree) I'd be better off majoring in something unrelated then going for an MBA. (If I want to go that route)
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CA10824 Posts
very nice, you could be in the running for serious scholarships, then. if you are NMSF/NMF and are accepted to USC you have an automatic 50% tuition scholarship. plus with a 2310 SAT and good gpa, ECs and stuff you are probably a good candidate for the trustee which would be 100% tuition. in that case, it will probably be cheaper to attend USC over even the UCs.
furthermore, USC has a decent korean program.
-8 semesters of language
-literature
-film
-culture
-writing in mixed script
-newspaper and documentary korean
-gender studies
-linguistics
etc
we also have very strong study abroad options in korea. here's an example of one of the exclusive programs we offer:
Course Benefits
Students accepted into the program will have all major travel-related expenses paid for by the East Asian Studies Center, including roundtrip international airfare from LAX, basic lodging and meals, and local transportation and entrance fees related to the course while abroad. Note: the 4 units of USC tuition and associated fees will not be covered by the program.
This course will take students to the exciting capital city of South Korea, one of the world’s
oldest and most dynamic metropoles, where they will live and learn on the main campus of Ewha
Womans University. By combining classroom instruction with study tours, we will explore the
past and present of Seoul both through our first-hand experiences of its various locales (including
the demilitarized border zone, Kyŏngbok royal palace, the National Museum of Korea, and
Incheon’s Chinatown) and through our readings of major literary and cinematic works in which
the city figures prominently. The course has two goals at large: to familiarize students with
modern Korean history through that of its capital city and to cultivate the students’ reading skills
by engaging them in critical textual analysis, primarily with classic works of Korean literature.
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On January 07 2011 15:04 LosingID8 wrote:very nice, you could be in the running for serious scholarships, then. if you are NMSF/NMF and are accepted to USC you have an automatic 50% tuition scholarship. plus with a 2310 SAT and good gpa, ECs and stuff you are probably a good candidate for the trustee which would be 100% tuition. in that case, it will probably be cheaper to attend USC over even the UCs. furthermore, USC has a decent korean program. -8 semesters of language -literature -film -culture -writing in mixed script -newspaper and documentary korean -gender studies -linguistics etc we also have very strong study abroad options in korea. here's an example of one of the exclusive programs we offer: Show nested quote +Course Benefits
Students accepted into the program will have all major travel-related expenses paid for by the East Asian Studies Center, including roundtrip international airfare from LAX, basic lodging and meals, and local transportation and entrance fees related to the course while abroad. Note: the 4 units of USC tuition and associated fees will not be covered by the program.
This course will take students to the exciting capital city of South Korea, one of the world’s
oldest and most dynamic metropoles, where they will live and learn on the main campus of Ewha
Womans University. By combining classroom instruction with study tours, we will explore the
past and present of Seoul both through our first-hand experiences of its various locales (including
the demilitarized border zone, Kyŏngbok royal palace, the National Museum of Korea, and
Incheon’s Chinatown) and through our readings of major literary and cinematic works in which
the city figures prominently. The course has two goals at large: to familiarize students with
modern Korean history through that of its capital city and to cultivate the students’ reading skills
by engaging them in critical textual analysis, primarily with classic works of Korean literature.
My MUN advisor was like GO FOR TRUSTEES FOOL GO FOR TRUSTEES
Yeah.
Maybe he has a point.
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On January 07 2011 14:38 Froadac wrote:
So I watch this, find a video response by cholera, watch it, and I love it!
Cholera!!! I wonder where the heck he went...just completely disappeared.
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On January 07 2011 15:08 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 15:04 LosingID8 wrote:very nice, you could be in the running for serious scholarships, then. if you are NMSF/NMF and are accepted to USC you have an automatic 50% tuition scholarship. plus with a 2310 SAT and good gpa, ECs and stuff you are probably a good candidate for the trustee which would be 100% tuition. in that case, it will probably be cheaper to attend USC over even the UCs. furthermore, USC has a decent korean program. -8 semesters of language -literature -film -culture -writing in mixed script -newspaper and documentary korean -gender studies -linguistics etc we also have very strong study abroad options in korea. here's an example of one of the exclusive programs we offer: Course Benefits
Students accepted into the program will have all major travel-related expenses paid for by the East Asian Studies Center, including roundtrip international airfare from LAX, basic lodging and meals, and local transportation and entrance fees related to the course while abroad. Note: the 4 units of USC tuition and associated fees will not be covered by the program.
This course will take students to the exciting capital city of South Korea, one of the world’s
oldest and most dynamic metropoles, where they will live and learn on the main campus of Ewha
Womans University. By combining classroom instruction with study tours, we will explore the
past and present of Seoul both through our first-hand experiences of its various locales (including
the demilitarized border zone, Kyŏngbok royal palace, the National Museum of Korea, and
Incheon’s Chinatown) and through our readings of major literary and cinematic works in which
the city figures prominently. The course has two goals at large: to familiarize students with
modern Korean history through that of its capital city and to cultivate the students’ reading skills
by engaging them in critical textual analysis, primarily with classic works of Korean literature. My MUN advisor was like GO FOR TRUSTEES FOOL GO FOR TRUSTEES Yeah. Maybe he has a point.
If you can get a quality education at a decent price (and you love the school), then that should pretty much seal the deal >_>.
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I haven't been to USC. I might go on a socal run this break. I thought I might go out of state, but tbh too many good schools in CA lol. Even if I get into berkeley, I don't particularly want to have my parents a 25 minute drive away :/
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CA10824 Posts
and yeah... having parents too close during college can be a big negative. if i were you i'd go either OOS or to socal.
i'm a big USC homer but other good options would be the claremonts, especially pomona, claremont mckenna, and harvey mudd.
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On January 07 2011 14:57 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 14:52 Comeh wrote:On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree. O.o Have to disagree here - while it may not give you a lot of skills (comparatively), if you go to a decent enough school, you'll 99.9% get a decent paying job out of college, but you really need that business-personality, which is a bit annoying to put on when you aren't in the mood for it. I would argue that an undergraduate business major is a less competitive candidate for "business" type jobs than is a finance major, or a computer science major, or a statistics major. If you want to go into business, then you should naturally be someone who is able to leverage a winning personality into success. If I were an employer, I'd rather see someone demonstrate that they have the ability to work hard and succeed. In most cases, this is not achieved via undergraduate business majors, wherein you pretty much just learn the basics of accounting and how to use powerpoint. The reason top undergraduate business programs like the ones at Wharton are desired is because those students do show that they are able to succeed in the business world. Wharton's undergraduate curriculum is rigorous, intellectually demanding, and shows that a particular student is well-suited for a career in business. If you are a student at a less prestigious school and want to get into "business," I'd suggest choosing more substantial major such as mathematics or engineering. Seriously, as long as you have a personality, the rudiments of business knowledge, and an employable skill, you're primed for success in the business world.
oh oh oh oh oh
Okay, nevermind
I totally misinterpreted what you meant by "business" - I thought you included the umbrella of business-related majors, such as finance, accounting, etc etc, along with business. So nevermind. Agree otherwise.
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On January 07 2011 15:16 LosingID8 wrote:
and yeah... having parents too close during college can be a big negative. if i were you i'd go either OOS or to socal.
i'm a big USC homer but other good options would be the claremonts, especially pomona, claremont mckenna, and harvey mudd.
Why are parents too close a negative in your mind.
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Well I think a lot of people just like to get away during college years so they can experience life without parent interference. Seems like Berkeley's one of your top schools and I think you shouldn't think too heavily that your parents are nearby. My brother went to Berkeley and I don't get the feeling he was too bothered with being close by. Of course, getting an East Coast / SoCal experience is also pretty nice since if you go to Berkeley you'll be in the exact same area you grew up in.
Btw based on your stats I think you have a pretty great shot at Berkeley / USC / any of those types of schools
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it has to do with my personality more than anything else. it's not that i have a bad relationship with my parents. rather, it's the opposite of that. i'm pretty independent and i think that a big part of college is growing up and living on your own. quite a few USC kids come from the LA area and personally it's really lame to me when they go home every weekend. i mean seriously, you're at a major residential university, not some community college. some kids even have their parents pick up their laundry on friday afternoons and drop it off on sunday evenings. wtf? lol
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On January 07 2011 15:33 LosingID8 wrote:
it has to do with my personality more than anything else. it's not that i have a bad relationship with my parents. rather, it's the opposite of that. i'm pretty independent and i think that a big part of college is growing up and living on your own. quite a few USC kids come from the LA area and personally it's really lame to me when they go home every weekend. i mean seriously, you're at a major residential university, not some community college. some kids even have their parents pick up their laundry on friday afternoons and drop it off on sunday evenings. wtf? lol
Lolwtf. That's stupid.
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Computer Science, Mathematics, and Engineering are all great majors and there are excellent schools for all of those in California. They offer some of the best paying entry-level jobs, and the curricula are rigorous enough to allow you to be competitive for graduate school if you're looking to get an MBA. Mathematics is a good major if you're interested in Economics.. many universities offer Math degrees with a concentration in business/economics (forecasting, etc.).
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I chose a science major because I hate writing essays like death, and I hate classes with a lot of student participation and discussion because a lot of people are dumb as shit (even at good schools, I went to a top 10 school). Keep that kind of stuff in mind when you choose a major.
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How are you related to USC losingid8?
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CA10824 Posts
i just graduated in may 2010 with a double major in biology and korean.
i'm also one of the founding members of the USC esports club, formerly simply known as USC CSL!
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On January 07 2011 16:48 LosingID8 wrote:
i just graduated in may 2010 with a double major in biology and korean.
i'm also one of the founding members of the USC esports club, formerly simply known as USC CSL!
Yeah. Talked to mom who was still raging at cost. I don't know if I could get trustees: they only give out 100 :/
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
I hate classes with a lot of student participation and discussion because a lot of people are dumb as shit (even at good schools, I went to a top 10 school).
This man, he speaks the truth.
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Go to UCLA. It's public, its prestigious, its in california, and it's far away enough in california. A lot of bay area kids try and go to Davis or something to be far away enough from home but close enough to come back. It's a nice thing, but as I semi read your blogs I would recommend getting far away. UCSD too if you want to be around more asians.
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The problem with picking up a language major is that there are lots of native speakers already. There's a lot of American-born Koreans who speak Korean and are arguably in a better position to take translation jobs than people who study in school. On top of that, if they graduate college, they possess a knowledge in a specific field + an additional language which will make them more competitive.
When it comes to choosing a major, you can do two things:
1- Choose whatever's fun and interesting, regardless of whether it's actually "useful"
2- Find out what jobs you want by researching what they actually do, then work backwards from there and choose your major and what kind of experience you'll need once you graduate.
I think either is fine. With the 1st option, you're going to have to look at what you can accomplish with that degree, but because you're naturally interested you should have no problems networking and doing well (and if you're not, it's obviously not fun or interesting). With the 2nd option, it's more focused and direct, but not as fun... plus it's more rigid so if you screw up somewhere it'll be harder to recover and see your options.
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On January 07 2011 15:13 Froadac wrote:
I haven't been to USC. I might go on a socal run this break. I thought I might go out of state, but tbh too many good schools in CA lol. Even if I get into berkeley, I don't particularly want to have my parents a 25 minute drive away :/
I went to a university that was a 10-minute driving distance from home, but I lived on campus. It was actually a big advantage imo since I had all of the resources of living at home, yet I was living on campus. For example, I would sometimes take the bus home on Friday, and get the car for the weekend and do errands with friends.
Of course, this largely depends on your relationship with your parents and their style of parenting. I would just like to say that you shouldn't dismiss a great school like Berkeley just because your parents live close by.
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bump
Does this girl still go to Cal/do I know her? I won't annoy you if I know her/you don't wanna tell me though ><
And you already took your SAT? lol I didn't know that...good job :O Which one (i.e. time) was it?
Also, I think you should go to Berkeley if you do get accepted--I don't think getting away from your parents is worth declining a top-notch program...just in my humble opinion.
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I'm sort of in the same boat as OP here. I've also been wondering about what to be in order to win outside of North America. Not to hijack the thread but I'll just up my stuff.
I recently took interest in Korea (Starcraft, music, and the girls!). I already applied for University (University of Toronto is my number one; I'm from Toronto, Canada.) for Commerce/Business Administration. In the future I want to work in Hong Kong (I'm Chinese, born in Canada to Hong Kong parents and lived there for a short while) or Korea. It seems as though you guys really suggest tech specialty. It may be possible for me to switch to Computer Science after I get in (hopefully... marks are in decline).
I can read and write Chinese. Speak fluent Cantonese with a Mandarin that is work in progress.
I don't know Korean but I would like to learn it in the future.
I guess what I'm asking is what do you guy's think of the prospects of a University of Toronto business major (finance and economics) in Asian countries?
If I don't know Korean in Korea as a national, can I still do well? I understand one wont do as well as a Korean speaking national, but can I still rise through the ranks?
Also, rank the major universities in Canada. Computer Science and Business specific listings would be cool. I'm interested in your opinions of the universities so don't go searching for them on some official listing!
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On January 11 2011 04:41 kainzero wrote:
The problem with picking up a language major is that there are lots of native speakers already. There's a lot of American-born Koreans who speak Korean and are arguably in a better position to take translation jobs than people who study in school. On top of that, if they graduate college, they possess a knowledge in a specific field + an additional language which will make them more competitive.
When it comes to choosing a major, you can do two things:
1- Choose whatever's fun and interesting, regardless of whether it's actually "useful"
2- Find out what jobs you want by researching what they actually do, then work backwards from there and choose your major and what kind of experience you'll need once you graduate.
I think either is fine. With the 1st option, you're going to have to look at what you can accomplish with that degree, but because you're naturally interested you should have no problems networking and doing well (and if you're not, it's obviously not fun or interesting). With the 2nd option, it's more focused and direct, but not as fun... plus it's more rigid so if you screw up somewhere it'll be harder to recover and see your options.
Don't want to major in korean, just want to take courses
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On January 13 2011 08:40 Z3kk wrote:
bump
Does this girl still go to Cal/do I know her? I won't annoy you if I know her/you don't wanna tell me though ><
And you already took your SAT? lol I didn't know that...good job :O Which one (i.e. time) was it?
Also, I think you should go to Berkeley if you do get accepted--I don't think getting away from your parents is worth declining a top-notch program...just in my humble opinion.
Wat girl? The one at caltech?
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The fob one whom you had a crush in middle school? :D?
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Not really fob lolz.
But yeah, initials are GC
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