My History, Korean Language, and Majors

On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree.

On January 07 2011 14:48 Empyrean wrote:
Unless you're at (pretty much) Wharton, undergrad business is a worthless degree.

On January 07 2011 14:51 LosingID8 wrote:
what do your SATs look like? your potential list of schools will vary greatly depending on what it is

ie: <1800, 1800-2000, 2000-2200, >2200

if you are 2000+ check out USC. good business, good CS, ok econ, and if you're interested in history, you are kind of correct that the degree itself is semi-useless but it's a pretty standard pre-law major, so think about whether or not you have any interest in that field.

On January 07 2011 14:52 Comeh wrote:

O.o
Have to disagree here - while it may not give you a lot of skills (comparatively), if you go to a decent enough school, you'll 99.9% get a decent paying job out of college, but you really need that business-personality, which is a bit annoying to put on when you aren't in the mood for it.

On January 07 2011 14:57 Empyrean wrote:


I would argue that an undergraduate business major is a less competitive candidate for "business" type jobs than is a finance major, or a computer science major, or a statistics major. If you want to go into business, then you should naturally be someone who is able to leverage a winning personality into success. If I were an employer, I'd rather see someone demonstrate that they have the ability to work hard and succeed. In most cases, this is not achieved via undergraduate business majors, wherein you pretty much just learn the basics of accounting and how to use powerpoint.

The reason top undergraduate business programs like the ones at Wharton are desired is because those students do show that they are able to succeed in the business world. Wharton's undergraduate curriculum is rigorous, intellectually demanding, and shows that a particular student is well-suited for a career in business. If you are a student at a less prestigious school and want to get into "business," I'd suggest choosing more substantial major such as mathematics or engineering. Seriously, as long as you have a personality, the rudiments of business knowledge, and an employable skill, you're primed for success in the business world.

Course Benefits
Students accepted into the program will have all major travel-related expenses paid for by the East Asian Studies Center, including roundtrip international airfare from LAX, basic lodging and meals, and local transportation and entrance fees related to the course while abroad. Note: the 4 units of USC tuition and associated fees will not be covered by the program.

This course will take students to the exciting capital city of South Korea, one of the world’s
oldest and most dynamic metropoles, where they will live and learn on the main campus of Ewha
Womans University. By combining classroom instruction with study tours, we will explore the
past and present of Seoul both through our first-hand experiences of its various locales (including
the demilitarized border zone, Kyŏngbok royal palace, the National Museum of Korea, and
Incheon’s Chinatown) and through our readings of major literary and cinematic works in which
the city figures prominently. The course has two goals at large: to familiarize students with
modern Korean history through that of its capital city and to cultivate the students’ reading skills
by engaging them in critical textual analysis, primarily with classic works of Korean literature.

On January 07 2011 15:04 LosingID8 wrote:
very nice, you could be in the running for serious scholarships, then. if you are NMSF/NMF and are accepted to USC you have an automatic 50% tuition scholarship. plus with a 2310 SAT and good gpa, ECs and stuff you are probably a good candidate for the trustee which would be 100% tuition. in that case, it will probably be cheaper to attend USC over even the UCs.

furthermore, USC has a decent korean program.
-8 semesters of language
-literature
-film
-culture
-writing in mixed script
-newspaper and documentary korean
-gender studies
-linguistics
etc

we also have very strong study abroad options in korea. here's an example of one of the exclusive programs we offer:

On January 07 2011 14:38 Froadac wrote:

So I watch this, find a video response by cholera, watch it, and I love it!

On January 07 2011 15:08 Froadac wrote:

My MUN advisor was like GO FOR TRUSTEES FOOL GO FOR TRUSTEES

Yeah.

Maybe he has a point.

On January 07 2011 14:57 Empyrean wrote:


I would argue that an undergraduate business major is a less competitive candidate for "business" type jobs than is a finance major, or a computer science major, or a statistics major. If you want to go into business, then you should naturally be someone who is able to leverage a winning personality into success. If I were an employer, I'd rather see someone demonstrate that they have the ability to work hard and succeed. In most cases, this is not achieved via undergraduate business majors, wherein you pretty much just learn the basics of accounting and how to use powerpoint.

The reason top undergraduate business programs like the ones at Wharton are desired is because those students do show that they are able to succeed in the business world. Wharton's undergraduate curriculum is rigorous, intellectually demanding, and shows that a particular student is well-suited for a career in business. If you are a student at a less prestigious school and want to get into "business," I'd suggest choosing more substantial major such as mathematics or engineering. Seriously, as long as you have a personality, the rudiments of business knowledge, and an employable skill, you're primed for success in the business world.

On January 07 2011 15:16 LosingID8 wrote:
and yeah... having parents too close during college can be a big negative. if i were you i'd go either OOS or to socal.

i'm a big USC homer but other good options would be the claremonts, especially pomona, claremont mckenna, and harvey mudd.

On January 07 2011 15:33 LosingID8 wrote:
it has to do with my personality more than anything else. it's not that i have a bad relationship with my parents. rather, it's the opposite of that. i'm pretty independent and i think that a big part of college is growing up and living on your own. quite a few USC kids come from the LA area and personally it's really lame to me when they go home every weekend. i mean seriously, you're at a major residential university, not some community college. some kids even have their parents pick up their laundry on friday afternoons and drop it off on sunday evenings. wtf? lol

On January 07 2011 16:48 LosingID8 wrote:
i just graduated in may 2010 with a double major in biology and korean.

i'm also one of the founding members of the USC esports club, formerly simply known as USC CSL!

I hate classes with a lot of student participation and discussion because a lot of people are dumb as shit (even at good schools, I went to a top 10 school).

On January 07 2011 15:13 Froadac wrote:
I haven't been to USC. I might go on a socal run this break. I thought I might go out of state, but tbh too many good schools in CA lol. Even if I get into berkeley, I don't particularly want to have my parents a 25 minute drive away :/

On January 11 2011 04:41 kainzero wrote:
The problem with picking up a language major is that there are lots of native speakers already. There's a lot of American-born Koreans who speak Korean and are arguably in a better position to take translation jobs than people who study in school. On top of that, if they graduate college, they possess a knowledge in a specific field + an additional language which will make them more competitive.

When it comes to choosing a major, you can do two things:
1- Choose whatever's fun and interesting, regardless of whether it's actually "useful"
2- Find out what jobs you want by researching what they actually do, then work backwards from there and choose your major and what kind of experience you'll need once you graduate.

I think either is fine. With the 1st option, you're going to have to look at what you can accomplish with that degree, but because you're naturally interested you should have no problems networking and doing well (and if you're not, it's obviously not fun or interesting). With the 2nd option, it's more focused and direct, but not as fun... plus it's more rigid so if you screw up somewhere it'll be harder to recover and see your options.

On January 13 2011 08:40 Z3kk wrote:
bump

Does this girl still go to Cal/do I know her? I won't annoy you if I know her/you don't wanna tell me though ><

And you already took your SAT? lol I didn't know that...good job :O Which one (i.e. time) was it?

Also, I think you should go to Berkeley if you do get accepted--I don't think getting away from your parents is worth declining a top-notch program...just in my humble opinion.