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VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
October 28 2010 21:14 GMT
#101
If you dad is willing to invest large sums of money in your future, wouldn't you want to maximize the benefit? From a third party perspective I think the best thing (showing the most respect for your dad, respect for money, and personal improvement/goals) would to form another plan that could make use of the 3-5k or whatever your father was willing to give you. The new plan should be well thought out if it is anything more complicated than 3-5k towards school.
Ekko
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 21:20:06
October 28 2010 21:18 GMT
#102
Kcaz here is the deal like everyone has said 6 months is not a long time. But be aware that a lot of people have a mental investment in the idea that no player can get really "good" in 6 months because they have devoted years of time to this and they still are not "good."

In order to become competitive in this amount of time you are going to have to learn very quickly. You will need a very good coach. At 19 you have all the time in the world to do whatever you want, so dont' worry too much about that. College will still be there when you are done and it will be a good experience that can possibly benefit you later in life.

To get very good in this amount of time your going to have to treat it like a 9-5 job. What i mean by that is your going to have to do a lot of things that are not fun to get good at sc2. You will need to divide each part of your game into different mechanical areas and treat it like any other sport. To be very good at soccer (goalie) I needed to learn vision, my reach, distance, reaction time, communication, how to read strikers and 100 other parts of the game. So you break those into categories and come up with drills for them. You will need to do the same for SC2 in areas like scouting, reacting, building during combat, reading builds, harassment and reacting to harassment. There are probably many others, you will probably need someone to put you into bad situations and see how you handle them. There should also be mechanical drills to improve apm and screen vision.

What i'm saying is the silly idea of just playing ladder games to get good over and over and if you get to the top of the ladder then go for it probably will not get you to the level you want to be by the time period you want. Training and a combination of games most likely will.
Don't try to jump a cliff in two leaps.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 28 2010 21:21 GMT
#103
On October 29 2010 06:18 Ekko wrote:
Kcaz here is the deal like everyone has said 6 months is not a long time. But be aware that a lot of people have a mental investment in the idea that no player can get really "good" in 6 months because they have devoted years of time to this and they still are not "good."


I don't agree with this. If you are really playing an absolute ton I think 6 months is plenty of time... the game hasn't even been out for 6 months yet.
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
October 28 2010 21:34 GMT
#104
i think if you were good enough to be a pro gamer you wouldn't need your dad to sponsor you.. you should probably save your money and use it on real life things
kcaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada387 Posts
October 28 2010 21:36 GMT
#105
I probably should have put this in the OP, but the 6months is just tentative so that I have a time window to see where I can get too. Not like it cuts of immedietly.
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Ma Jae Yoon
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
October 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#106
depends where he's inheriting the money from tbh but mostlikely no is the best answer
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
October 28 2010 21:47 GMT
#107
you play 1-3 hours a day and are only 1400 diamond, sorry but i highly doubt you will become a progamer. Use the money for college, if college is already paid for, use the money having a ton of fun in college, maybe play in an MLG event (you will get your ass kicked but its still fun to play against and get to meet the best)
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terrOne
Profile Joined September 2009
Italy172 Posts
October 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#108
play at least 8 hours a day for about 2-3 weeks.

If you are not top 200 by then I would suggest to give up. I was thinking of going pro but then I found out I don't really like playing 8 hours EVERY day.... it gets boring real fast tbh..

But if you like it that much good for you
HeLL yeah!
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 28 2010 22:29 GMT
#109
Honestly I don't know what to say.

SC is your passion.

But it's also (maybe) six months that may not pay off too well.

If you go through with it, set some limits, like don't blow more than 5k. Only go to a tournament after you hit 2000 (random number that should be attainable given all day training).

Otherwise talk it over with your dad, and see if there is something else you could do with the money.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 28 2010 22:36 GMT
#110
There are already people better than you, that are trying harder, and not making posts about it. I don't think you have much chance. Sorry for being negative, but just saying "im gonna be pro" doesn't make it so. Go ladder. Why do you need to tell everyone?

Just like in another carbon copy of these blog posts from a month or more ago, you already fell into a huge psychological trap.
Sup
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
October 28 2010 22:49 GMT
#111
On October 29 2010 07:36 avilo wrote:
There are already people better than you, that are trying harder, and not making posts about it. I don't think you have much chance. Sorry for being negative, but just saying "im gonna be pro" doesn't make it so. Go ladder. Why do you need to tell everyone?

Just like in another carbon copy of these blog posts from a month or more ago, you already fell into a huge psychological trap.

the only 'huge psychological trap' is your post. He's weighing opportunities like everybody should if they come across an opportunity like this. And what better place to ask about becoming a progamer than here?
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
October 28 2010 22:58 GMT
#112
I think if you truly believe you can do it you should go for it.
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 28 2010 23:12 GMT
#113
On October 29 2010 03:44 Chill wrote:
Having met you, I feel I can say you're an idiot. Get a job or go to school; you won't make any money.



since this guy already met you (and even played with you?) better believe what he is trying to say. If he thinks you can make it then you can.. already gave up on the dream.. I'd rather be just one of the top here in our country than internationally.

if you don't wanna listen, I want you to get on rank 1 in diamond consistently for about 2 months then decide if you can make it or not. Also age is a factor.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 23:37:37
October 28 2010 23:34 GMT
#114
Get to semi prolevel before trying to do it, it means a very high rank on ladder, know some good people to train with and see if you are able to fight back (progamers).

If you manage to be on par with their level (or just slightly lower) you might want to go for it. Then ask yourself if you really want to see you doing that kind of things in 5years (both the hard work and the very hypothetic reward).

Anyway, don't burn steps, there is no point to fly over the world if you are still a 1400diamond protoss.

Many say you must follow your dreams, that is somewhat true but not complete. You must aim toward your goal and see if the very next step is just too hard to reach and maybe take another route less complete but reachable.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
October 28 2010 23:54 GMT
#115
You'd make more money doing just about anything else. And it is also not something you can assume you would be good at given time even if you do create a good practice regimen in a good gaming environment. And who knows what the progaming scene will be like some months down the road. Maybe sponsors will drop SC2 and prizes will be smaller. Also unless you plan to move to Korea it entails a whole lot of traveling. I can't imagine progaming will really grow in an online environment because of cheats, lag and connectivity issues.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
October 28 2010 23:55 GMT
#116
Even with your 2 hours a day 1400 is pretty low in diamond

So he said that if I was really serious about this, that he would sponsor me for 6 months. Pay my expenses, fly me out to tournaments and everything else that a pro gaming team does for it's players.


6 months is another kicker.
You could do a few GSLs if you were to fly to Korean but at 1400 Diamond you wouldn't get far at all, If you were to play like crazy you may be as good as a "named foreigner" but not much better then that.
Good luck in your decision regardless though I guess.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
October 28 2010 23:58 GMT
#117
On October 29 2010 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
being pro doesn't mean going around the world participating in tournaments at your father's expense

being pro means actually being good and having a shot at winning, which means you'll have a real sponsor

but, then again, it would be fun nonetheless. you'd be nothing more than a fanboy though.


This is also very true. I agree 100%. If you play in a lot of tournaments and don't do good it doesn't make you pro, 1400 pro at that.

I think TorcH is a good example: he basically did everything himself and managed Ro64 in GSL1 which is actually incredibly impressive. That's badass.


He got a very easy bracket in my opinion compared to others. He hasn't really won anything :/
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 00:47:15
October 29 2010 00:43 GMT
#118
I just wanted to throw in a counter-argument for everyone saying "you have to born with it."

Malcom Gladwell wrote a boot titled The Outliers wherein "he makes the democratic assertion that superstars don't arise out of nowhere, propelled by genius and talent: "they are invariably the beneficiaries of hidden advantages and extraordinary opportunities and cultural legacies that allow them to learn and work hard and make sense of the world in ways others cannot." Examining the lives of outliers from Mozart to Bill Gates, he builds a convincing case for how successful people rise on a tide of advantages, "some deserved, some not, some earned, some just plain lucky.""

In it he says that most successful people weren't the prodigies people make them out to be. The creator of Java, for instance, was a biology major (or something like that) who lived in a dorm with a computer lab in it. Him and his buddies would often go in there and there was a 2 hour login limit. They found out that if you type "kk" at the end your password, you got unlimited time. After that he just spent hours upon hours playing on the computer and eventually creating Java.

Or Bill Gates, who had unlimited time on the computer because he was rich and his parents could afford it.

Or The Beatles. They had a gig at a bar in Germany that had them playing 5 hours a night every night all week. When they went back to Britain they had such a refined sound because the had played so much.

*Note: I do not claim to agree or disagree with Malcom Gladwell. I only thought it was an interesting piece of information which pertained to the subject.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
October 29 2010 02:37 GMT
#119
On October 29 2010 05:37 Frits wrote:
Tell your dad not to waste his money. I suck balls at sc2 and made diamond 1400 in like a day. Think of all the awesome stuff you can do with it instead. Put it in your savings.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 05:27 ShaperofDreams wrote:
You can do it! don't listen to all the fools in this thread who project their own insecurity on to you. If you are sponsored and you have time you can at least make a small splash in the pro scene. if you know how to practice well and if you have the least bit of talent you can become E-famous! Later you will wanna find some good practice partners not just ladder.

that is so cool good luck!


What does being insecure have to do with anything, that makes absolutely no sense.

read your post again?

oh noes a kid will spend a few months gaming with support with his family. such a waste, we never ever waste money.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 29 2010 02:43 GMT
#120
practice like shit over christmas break? and see whta happens. then report back to TL again then
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