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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:10:34
July 09 2010 01:45 GMT
#1
So I'm an incoming sophomore next year and I'm majoring chemistry (thanks TLers for helping me make that decision!!!) but wondering how much math I should take.

The program at my school only requires basic 200s level multivariable and linear algebra classes which I just took. Problem is, I hear that from other ppl that I should be taking much more math, like real analysis and a hard diffeq class (engineering diffeq being too easy >>). But being the dumbass I am I took advanced multivariable and freaked out and took basic linear algebra for an easy A.

But to go further in math, I need advanced linear. Wondering if I should take it (repeat basically mostly) and maybe go further. TL Chem ppl (I'm looking at you biochemistry), do you need more math or should I leave it alone?

I also feel like I've been treating math like it was just some functional thing that I had to get through really quickly to get to the more important stuff that barely used theoretical math. But now people im researching for tell me math is really important, and reading their papers it sure looks like i should have a solid theoretical background. Argh.

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17050 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 01:49:44
July 09 2010 01:47 GMT
#2
I don't think I could see people using real analysis in chemistry, but I could easily see differential equations if you go into pchem or something.

EDIT: I'm not a chem person, though.

EDIT2: Actually, same here lol. (post below)
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 09 2010 01:47 GMT
#3
I came in here looking for asian girls. I was lied to. That should be a bannable offense.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 01:58:22
July 09 2010 01:50 GMT
#4
On July 09 2010 10:47 Roffles wrote:
I came in here looking for asian girls. I was lied to. That should be a bannable offense.

he just knows how teamliquid works, put Asian girls in the title and you get 10000x more hits.

You're just the same guy who clicked on Angela Jolie naked, as a link on youtube.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 01:51:26
July 09 2010 01:50 GMT
#5
On July 09 2010 10:47 Roffles wrote:
I came in here looking for asian girls. I was lied to. That should be a bannable offense.


Roffles said he'd dance. He lied. That should be a bannable offense.

I think this really should be an issue of whether or not you -want- to take math, as opposed to whether or not you think math will "help" you. You're not going to enjoy it/do very well in higher level math classes unless you're genuinely interested in it, as opposed to getting through it as if it's another worthless liberal art requirement or something like that.
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Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
July 09 2010 01:51 GMT
#6
On July 09 2010 10:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On July 09 2010 10:47 Roffles wrote:
I came in here looking for asian girls. I was lied to. That should be a bannable offense.


Roffles said he'd dance. He lied. That should be a bannable offense.

I think this really should be an issue of whether or not you -want- to take math, as opposed to whether or not you think math will "help" you. You're not going to enjoy it/do very well in higher level math classes unless you're genuinely interested in it, as opposed to getting through it as if it's another worthless liberal art requirement or something like that.


+1 internet to you sir
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
July 09 2010 01:52 GMT
#7
1 star for the dirty lie
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 09 2010 01:53 GMT
#8
lol what a misleading title >.<
if u are not required to take more math, then why take it? u will be competing against other majors that are strong in math!
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susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
July 09 2010 01:53 GMT
#9
If you're going to have to / want to take P-chem, a good background in differential equations as well as linear algebra is super duper helpful. Try to take a higher level linear algebra class as it's more relevant to the math you'll be doing in your chem classes - the basic linear algebra stuff is kind of auxiliary. If you see the word "eigen-" in the course description a lot, chances are its a good class to take.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
July 09 2010 01:55 GMT
#10
tbh with you i only opened this because of the asian girls

go ask classmates yo xP they'll probably know more about the system.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 01:55:55
July 09 2010 01:55 GMT
#11
"Asian Girls and..."
>:D
"Asian Girls and Chemistry and Math"
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"I lied about asian girls."
>:T
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 09 2010 01:57 GMT
#12
Warn for misleading title?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:14:49
July 09 2010 01:58 GMT
#13
I WILL SAVE YOU OP!!

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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:00:38
July 09 2010 02:00 GMT
#14
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:03:03
July 09 2010 02:01 GMT
#15
On July 09 2010 10:55 hazelynut wrote:
tbh with you i only opened this because of the asian girls

go ask classmates yo xP they'll probably know more about the system.

LOL MONA

unless this is phil
that would still be pretty funny =)
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phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
July 09 2010 02:02 GMT
#16
I'm another of the "not a chem person" people chiming in. I'm actually in physics, but theres some overlap, and having taken much more math I thought I would throw in my 2 cents. Basically, partial differential equations is an absolute requirement to do anything with quantum mechanics. i.e. solving the hydrogen atom via the schrodinger equations, statistical mechanics/thermodynamics in self assembly. That said, you don't need a serious background in it for most applications and can get by with reading a book or two on your own and learning some software packages that can numerically approximate things. I certainly don't see how real/complex analysis would help you, but linear algebra can always be useful too. If you have the spare time, don't underestimate how much you can learn by just flipping through a book yourself though.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
July 09 2010 02:08 GMT
#17
what I heard was that if you have a deep math background you can teach yourself much more easily alot about concepts in physics/math that are necessary for your field
On July 09 2010 11:02 phyren wrote:
If you have the spare time, don't underestimate how much you can learn by just flipping through a book yourself though.

fair enough, but idk. i feel like i might benefit from the structure of math courses. and im thinking about shooting for the math minor at my school. math for me has had its times of being pretty fun and cool but also been kinda something i just went through to get through it other times
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 09 2010 02:09 GMT
#18
On July 09 2010 10:55 hazelynut wrote:
tbh with you i only opened this because of the asian girls

go ask classmates yo xP they'll probably know more about the system.

This.

Except you already asked me and I said do what you want.
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gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
July 09 2010 02:11 GMT
#19
On July 09 2010 10:58 ella_guru wrote:
I WILL SAVE YOU OP!!

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omnom

Also I'm minoring in chemistry, and the only two math classes I'm required to take at my school are differential and integral calculus. I think that's all you need to understand stuff like how to solve for the Schroedinger Wave Equation.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:12:24
July 09 2010 02:12 GMT
#20
On July 09 2010 11:09 TheYango wrote:
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On July 09 2010 10:55 hazelynut wrote:
tbh with you i only opened this because of the asian girls

go ask classmates yo xP they'll probably know more about the system.

This.

Except you already asked me and I said do what you want.

see james thats exactly the kind of advice i dont need. i cant think for myself! thats what tl is for.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 09 2010 02:15 GMT
#21
I have already graduated and I majored in mathematics. But I also took a lot of chemistry courses.

First of all, if linear algebra and (multivariable) calculus does not kill you, then you should definitely take them. The reason is that there is something called physical chemistry, which requires some light-duty multivariable calculus.

I remember a friend of mine did a project with a professor on physical chemistry - but he didn't take multivariable calculus previously. He ended up have to learn the calculus himself. I am guessing learning it yourself is not too bad, but why not take the actual course? It's just 10 times better to learn it systematically with a professor of mathematics.

On the other hand, if those courses do 'kill' you, then know that in organic chemistry, you will use almost no math at all.
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
July 09 2010 02:29 GMT
#22
ive taken orgo, taking pchem next sem.

orgo was really really fun, but all my research has so far been in pchem and I feel like its kind of more of my thing. but even at the highest/research levels of orgo, it doesnt involve math atall?

and honestly i think i'll have room for these courses...its more a matter of whether mere mortal me can survive fucking real analysis and the hard/theoretical diffeq class
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 02:40:25
July 09 2010 02:39 GMT
#23
My college (Univ of Md) only required 2 semesters of regular calc for biochemistry degree... heh. They may have changed it since then though.

We still had to take a crapton of chemistry courses. a bunch of biochem courses and maybe a couple high level bio courses. TONS of lab courses.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 09 2010 02:40 GMT
#24
duckett from princeton?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
July 09 2010 02:40 GMT
#25
that asian girl isn't even attractive

p.s. you should drink more wine
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
July 09 2010 02:47 GMT
#26
yep im duckett from princeton. meaning yes, i am a six foot indian baller who kicks so much ass at starcraft that you can't comprehend how good i am. =)

On July 09 2010 11:39 eshlow wrote:
My college (Univ of Md) only required 2 semesters of regular calc for biochemistry degree... heh. They may have changed it since then though.

We still had to take a crapton of chemistry courses. a bunch of biochem courses and maybe a couple high level bio courses. TONS of lab courses.

hmm yeah idk also with biochemistry. though what im doing now is like biophysics/physical chemistry and its requires a ton of math. i was thinking about doing biochemistry but recently i feel more like id rather do regular chemistry at least for undergrad and maybe do research in biochemistry but more likely in pchem/ochem/materials. well, sometimes they play into each other, that would be cool...need to find a good prof.

if you went to umd why arent you at TL MD LANS!?!?! wtf. ESHLOW!!!

On July 09 2010 11:40 d3_crescentia wrote:
that asian girl isn't even attractive

p.s. you should drink more wine

ur a creeper. ps why does your internet break when the phone is ringing...
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 09 2010 06:03 GMT
#27
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:22:16
July 09 2010 06:21 GMT
#28
dem legz

On July 09 2010 15:03 krndandaman wrote:
that asian girl has the most fucked up arms.
its like fat at the top and skinny at bottom


they look like those chicken drumsticks lol...
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 09 2010 06:34 GMT
#29
On July 09 2010 11:47 duckett wrote:
yep im duckett from princeton. meaning yes, i am a six foot indian baller who kicks so much ass at starcraft that you can't comprehend how good i am. =)

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On July 09 2010 11:39 eshlow wrote:
My college (Univ of Md) only required 2 semesters of regular calc for biochemistry degree... heh. They may have changed it since then though.

We still had to take a crapton of chemistry courses. a bunch of biochem courses and maybe a couple high level bio courses. TONS of lab courses.

hmm yeah idk also with biochemistry. though what im doing now is like biophysics/physical chemistry and its requires a ton of math. i was thinking about doing biochemistry but recently i feel more like id rather do regular chemistry at least for undergrad and maybe do research in biochemistry but more likely in pchem/ochem/materials. well, sometimes they play into each other, that would be cool...need to find a good prof.

if you went to umd why arent you at TL MD LANS!?!?! wtf. ESHLOW!!!

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On July 09 2010 11:40 d3_crescentia wrote:
that asian girl isn't even attractive

p.s. you should drink more wine

ur a creeper. ps why does your internet break when the phone is ringing...


Bchem is required to take ochem, pchem, and some materials stuff but yeah if you wanna get more in depth with that you should probably just do chem.

Well, I'm a grad student up at UMB now... I haven't been in school at CP since '07... haha o_o
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wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
July 10 2010 06:50 GMT
#30
I'm sorry

I just keep coming back to this thread to look at the chick in the op.


My god.


(for the sake of having her on every page of this thread, as should be the case, I'm posting it here again):
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#31
note to self, if u want lots of views on a blog post pic of hot chick in the op.
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