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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 10:56:38
June 17 2010 10:54 GMT
#1
I eventually got to a point where all my typing is basically one handed, I've been doing it for about 2 months now and can do 60WPM one hand on my filco pink mechanical keyboard . Its just so much quicker than taking your hand off the mouse to do google searches, even coding is much faster because most of your time is spent refactoring and clicking everywhere and adjusting things. Although I am sure there are others who feel the same and are probably much better one-hand typers than me.

I am thinking of trying out one of these ergonomical one handed keyboards to see if it would improve my one hand typing and perhaps starcraft.

[image loading]

My question is kinda moot because I am not considering becoming a pro-gamer, but just out of curiosity do you think these would be allowed in tourneys. Also has anyone tried them?

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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 17 2010 11:02 GMT
#2
They would not be allowed in progaming.
Otherwise, everyone would play on gaming keyboards like this :
[image loading]
(which are great btw, you only need to re-map all the keys which could be considered as hack)

Are you left-handed ?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24793 Posts
June 17 2010 11:05 GMT
#3
Why is it a big deal to use a keyboard other than a typical qwerty one? It would make sense to me if we were allowed to use any physical keyboard/mouse we wanted. Same thing with remapping keys...

Obviously in a pro bowling you can't take a 2 foot wide bowling ball because that would give an unbelievable advantage... but I don't quite see it comparable with keyboard/mouse arrangements as long as they don't put it macro's and other special functionality like that.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 17 2010 11:05 GMT
#4
i'm looking at that keyboard in the op, and i'm trying to figure out how that is remotely ergonomical regardless of which hand it's for
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 11:08:39
June 17 2010 11:06 GMT
#5
On June 17 2010 20:02 endy wrote:
They would not be allowed in progaming.
Otherwise, everyone would play on gaming keyboards like this :
[image loading]
(which are great btw, you only need to re-map all the keys which could be considered as hack)

Are you left-handed ?


That's true, I only ever thought it was because of macros, but I thought maybe if it was a PS/2 purely mechanical keyboard it would be ok, but yeah now that I think about it, its a pretty dumb suggestion

I'm left handed typing if thats what you mean.

On June 17 2010 20:05 intrigue wrote:
i'm looking at that keyboard in the op, and i'm trying to figure out how that is remotely ergonomical regardless of which hand it's for


No idea either, kinda doing it out of curiosity. Although I would say one reason is because all the keys are the same distance away, so your wrist never has to stretch or move.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
June 17 2010 11:11 GMT
#6
On June 17 2010 20:06 sluggaslamoo wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2010 20:05 intrigue wrote:
i'm looking at that keyboard in the op, and i'm trying to figure out how that is remotely ergonomical regardless of which hand it's for


No idea either, kinda doing it out of curiosity. Although I would say one reason is because all the keys are the same distance away, so your wrist never has to stretch or move.


either that's a terrible picture in the OP or you are gravely mistaken because there is no way that all those keys are equidistant from the wrist location
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 17 2010 11:11 GMT
#7
On June 17 2010 20:05 intrigue wrote:
i'm looking at that keyboard in the op, and i'm trying to figure out how that is remotely ergonomical regardless of which hand it's for


haha yes it just looks very bad overall
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 17 2010 11:19 GMT
#8
On June 17 2010 20:05 intrigue wrote:
i'm looking at that keyboard in the op, and i'm trying to figure out how that is remotely ergonomical regardless of which hand it's for


I don't know about ergonomics but i'm pretty sure Maltron (the manufacturer) makes keyboards for disabled people and those with problems moving their fingers.....I think that one is designed to minimize finger movements.

they also make ones without any keys at all where you select characters using these two huge knobs. Its wierd but not actually that slow.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 17 2010 12:08 GMT
#9
keyboard in the op could only be used for left handed mouse users.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
AbyssV3
Profile Joined April 2010
United States172 Posts
June 17 2010 13:44 GMT
#10
I've never understood why remapping keys and special keyboards are barred from tournaments.

It seems archiac to me - as long as there are no macro keys, any layout or keyboard or mouse style should be allowed.

Modifying keyboards by pulling keys out was allowed, why not a different layout in general?
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ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
June 17 2010 14:16 GMT
#11
On June 17 2010 22:44 Abyss.python wrote:
I've never understood why remapping keys and special keyboards are barred from tournaments.

It seems archiac to me - as long as there are no macro keys, any layout or keyboard or mouse style should be allowed.

Modifying keyboards by pulling keys out was allowed, why not a different layout in general?



I agree with this entirely and had this discussion with a friend a few days ago. But my friend countered my "Why can't mapped keys be used??" with a "Why can't you play the game the way it was meant to be played?"

GG.
Thats_The_Spirit
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Netherlands138 Posts
June 17 2010 14:57 GMT
#12
On June 17 2010 23:16 ThePurist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2010 22:44 Abyss.python wrote:
I've never understood why remapping keys and special keyboards are barred from tournaments.

It seems archiac to me - as long as there are no macro keys, any layout or keyboard or mouse style should be allowed.

Modifying keyboards by pulling keys out was allowed, why not a different layout in general?



I agree with this entirely and had this discussion with a friend a few days ago. But my friend countered my "Why can't mapped keys be used??" with a "Why can't you play the game the way it was meant to be played?"

GG.


"The way it is meant to be played" is a bit harder to define on PC games.
It's highly dependent on one's setup: QWERTY vs DVORAK, high tech 5k DPI mouse vs simple ball mouse, old PC vs new PC, 25 dollar mousemat vs 1 dollar mousemat, etc, which are all fine and non-cheating ways to play the game. I think it's difficult to determine the line at which using a "better" piece of equipment becomes cheating.

For 1-handed typing I found this on youtube:



Apparently this frogpad has everything on it like a regular QWERTY keyboard. It looks nifty for regular typing, but i doubt it's good for playing games.

eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 15:58:08
June 17 2010 15:57 GMT
#13
Holy shit, what the hell is that maltron thing? It looks like it wants to eat my hand. That circle thing is pretty sweet though.
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Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
June 17 2010 18:05 GMT
#14
On June 17 2010 23:57 Thats_The_Spirit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2010 23:16 ThePurist wrote:
On June 17 2010 22:44 Abyss.python wrote:
I've never understood why remapping keys and special keyboards are barred from tournaments.

It seems archiac to me - as long as there are no macro keys, any layout or keyboard or mouse style should be allowed.

Modifying keyboards by pulling keys out was allowed, why not a different layout in general?



I agree with this entirely and had this discussion with a friend a few days ago. But my friend countered my "Why can't mapped keys be used??" with a "Why can't you play the game the way it was meant to be played?"

GG.


"The way it is meant to be played" is a bit harder to define on PC games.
It's highly dependent on one's setup: QWERTY vs DVORAK, high tech 5k DPI mouse vs simple ball mouse, old PC vs new PC, 25 dollar mousemat vs 1 dollar mousemat, etc, which are all fine and non-cheating ways to play the game. I think it's difficult to determine the line at which using a "better" piece of equipment becomes cheating.

For 1-handed typing I found this on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmzYovAMHE4&feature=related

Apparently this frogpad has everything on it like a regular QWERTY keyboard. It looks nifty for regular typing, but i doubt it's good for playing games.



Holy shit. Is it just me or is that thing kinda cool. I wonder how hard it'd be to get fast at typing with that thing though.
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