EPTCouldn't see anything about this post that is trollish... especially from a low-post user, it's hard to assume that a stupid opinion is just a joke ;p
RE: teamliquid sucks - Page 3
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
Couldn't see anything about this post that is trollish... especially from a low-post user, it's hard to assume that a stupid opinion is just a joke ;p | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
holy crap that was a joke? you gotta be more sarcastic man, more capitals and bold to emphasize that you're joking. edit for your edit: if you present your joke badly, and come off as a doucher defending a doucher, then ur gonna get criticized. it's the risk you take when you get on the TL stage. | ||
Arrian
United States889 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:48 fly.stat wrote: All jokes aside, I really think it's weird that no one can take this guy seriously. Although his English skills are clearly impaired, we as a mature community should be able to look past that and see his message. Maybe we shouldn't make these rules on posting with regard to grammatical correctness. It really makes me feel bad to be a part of the teamliquid community when I see the moderators making fun of people like dropzone. It's all about the improvement of e-sports, a realm where anyone, regardless of education, can achieve if they are so inclined. But then again, I have a few lawyers in my family, so maybe I'm just bi-est. If he was actually concerned about his message and affecting change in the community, there are better ways of going about it than the way he did. He wasn't trying to help or try and put out a meaningful critique. He was trying to troll, and so the mods bite back knowing full well they're not harming anyone who was even trying to do good. And it makes the rest of us laugh. If you feel the way he does, perhaps you yourself can write an informative, accurate, and insightful post arguing his/your point. That would be met with fairness and thoughtfulness, I think. But doing it the way he did is a ticket to no where. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:59 mOnion wrote: holy crap that was a joke? you gotta be more sarcastic man, more capitals and bold to emphasize that you're joking. I'm guessing the tip-off was that he used "bi-est" But still, I thought he was being serious! lol | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:35 zatic wrote: Even if arguing for freedom of speech on a private forum would apply, whatever it is the OP was saying, it certainly didn't qualify as "speech". One argues for the freedom to speech, while others argues for the freedom to not hear his speech, without an audience there is no speech, without an audience one's voice is nothing but noise, hence there is no such thing as the right of freedom of speech. What people have is privileges of being heard, and if others don't like what they are hearing, those privileges are gone. | ||
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a176
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fly.stat
United States449 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:01 Thegilaboy wrote: I'm guessing the tip-off was that he used "bi-est" But still, I thought he was being serious! lol Yes, that was my intent. Edited the original post. Sorry for the confusion, but now it's kind of funny to see how serious business people got when they thought I was telling them they were wrong. Guess I know how to press their buttons now. =) | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:04 a176 wrote: u guys shud let him play in the tournaments they chivalrously defend each other. beautiful. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
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fly.stat
United States449 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:59 mOnion wrote: holy crap that was a joke? you gotta be more sarcastic man, more capitals and bold to emphasize that you're joking. edit for your edit: if you present your joke badly, and come off as a doucher defending a doucher, then ur gonna get criticized. it's the risk you take when you get on the TL stage. I understand that the joke did not come off clean, and I'm not mad or frustrated that people didn't get it. We're done here, haha. | ||
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semantics
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On May 31 2010 05:57 mOnion wrote: Omg i can understand the post now that i hear it. | ||
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wanderer
United States641 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:53 zatic wrote: Sooooooo? You are wrong on so many levels I can't even come up with a conclusive reply. How about this: Your understanding of freedom of speech would force me to let everyone walk into my house and start expressing his opinion. I would have no right to prevent them from entering as I would violate his right to freedom of speech, right? I think that the misunderstanding is with you. First of all, they're not coming into your house - you're silencing them by kicking their asses out. It is not your place nor your right nor your privilege to silence people. If you don't want them to express their opinion, either ignore them or prevent them from coming to you in the first place (I heard TL has a trial membership nowadays, so assuming that that rumor is true, I think you're already doing that anyway). If they are able to enter, then you get them to leave through other means, but you do NOT silence them. I believe that the British prefer to ask nicely, but that's just their culture. | ||
intrigue
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You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions (Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply IP ban you. If we're really pissed off, then we IP ban you AND nuke every single post you've uploaded to the site - ever. It will be as if you had never existed here. This is our house. You've been warned.  | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 31 2010 05:43 wanderer wrote: I'm pretty sure that the Universal Delcaration of Human Rights says "without distinction of any kind". edit - yeah I double checked. It does. Your understanding of the freedom of speech is bad, but your understanding of the UDHR is even worse; it doesn't even bind the countries that voted in favor of it. Its applicability to a private forum on the internet is nonexistent. | ||
micronesia
United States24709 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:29 wanderer wrote: I think that the misunderstanding is with you. First of all, they're not coming into your house - you're silencing them by kicking their asses out. It is not your place nor your right nor your privilege to silence people. If you don't want them to express their opinion, either ignore them or prevent them from coming to you in the first place (I heard TL has a trial membership nowadays, so assuming that that rumor is true, I think you're already doing that anyway). If they are able to enter, then you get them to leave through other means, but you do NOT silence them. I believe that the British prefer to ask nicely, but that's just their culture. Oh god you were serious? Haha what. I hope you are trolling. Freedom of speech does not apply to teamliquid.net. As the 10 commandments say, the site tries to be respectful and 'ask nicely' as you put it... and that doesn't always work. I don't know what the hell you are talking about with "First of all, they're not coming into your house - you're silencing them by kicking their asses out." It just doesn't make sense. edit for clarity: forums have absolutely no responsibility to respect the voice of others | ||
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IskatuMesk
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:28 semantics wrote: Omg i can understand the post now that i hear it. this site only works if it's testie or artosis needs to be like this | ||
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CheAse
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:29 wanderer wrote: I think that the misunderstanding is with you. First of all, they're not coming into your house - you're silencing them by kicking their asses out. It is not your place nor your right nor your privilege to silence people. If you don't want them to express their opinion, either ignore them or prevent them from coming to you in the first place (I heard TL has a trial membership nowadays, so assuming that that rumor is true, I think you're already doing that anyway). If they are able to enter, then you get them to leave through other means, but you do NOT silence them. I believe that the British prefer to ask nicely, but that's just their culture. When you agree to the ToS when you make a TL account... they get the right to silence you, you sign over your freedom of speech on TL. So you have no rights here :/, when you agree to the ToS the only rights you have are those outlined in the ToS which you have to check the little box when you make an account saying you agree to them. Nothing else applies, as that counts as a signed contract which you sign over your rights in order to be given the privilege to use their website. Not to mention, TL does not fall under the jurisdiction of a single country even though they are based out of the USA (I believe.) So any sort of constitutional rights / laws do not apply to them as a whole... (Obviously some do, since they have contracts with their ISP and such...) but as a whole more laws don't count of shit on the interwebs. As well, since they are a private business, which IS NOT open to everyone (as you have to make an account. Like joining a golf club, they get to crush your rights even more... as it is not a public but a private business so they do not have to adhere to the laws and regulations that a public business has to. Really though when you: a) are on the internet and b) have to agree to something (ToS, EULA, etc...) you basically lose 99% of your rights when it comes to that single product / service as you sign a contract when you agree to those things. Same way when you made your SC2 account you signed away your rights to; - Freedom of speech (They can ban you for account names / griefing people) - Rights to Privacy (They can give away all your personal info if they want) - Rights to ownership of your property (You don't own SC2 at all, period, in anyway shape or form, they just let you borrow its usage for $$$$) etc... (many more, i just haven't read the ToS or the EULA...) | ||
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