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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 21 2010 06:04 GMT
#1
So, with SC2 coming around the bend, I, like the rest of you, really want to play. However, being a Junior in college, my macbook is quite old. As such, I'm not sure it can support SC2, and I'm not exactly what you would call a computer expert, so I need some help from the TL community when it comes to this matter.

Now for the questions:
1- Will a macbook with an intel core 2 duo, with 2 GB of ram, and a GMA 950 video card be able to run SC2? I dont care about optimum settings, just being able to run the game would be enough.

2- Assuming that my current computer will not be enough, what are some good laptops that would have enough power to run SC2, but not be overly expensive (preferably around or less than $1000 (damn collegiate poverty))? Not being familiar with computer components, I really have no idea which cards will be able to run SC2, and the eventual expansions. Even just letting me know which cards/processors/other important components I need to watch out for would be a big help!

Thanks for your time- in the future this blog will be filled with more entertaining content than this, but playing SC2 comes first!



"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
April 21 2010 06:09 GMT
#2
1. No
2. What is important to you in a laptop? Battery life? Looks? Reliability?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 06:14:28
April 21 2010 06:13 GMT
#3
1. no, fuck mac anyway
2. that laptop is good enough to do other shit so if u have one dont get another laptop just buy a desktop. ur not gonna find a really nice laptop to run sc2 that runs much less under 1g

this is what i use and i like it alot
http://www.jr.com/sony/pe/SON_VPCF116FXH/

not the exact same model but really similar

Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
April 21 2010 06:15 GMT
#4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152190
MSI Laptop $900 Core i5 + ATi HD 5730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127093
Sony VAIO $900 Core i5 + ATi HD 5650

*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 06:16:30
April 21 2010 06:15 GMT
#5
On April 21 2010 15:09 FragKrag wrote:
1. No
2. What is important to you in a laptop? Battery life? Looks? Reliability?

Beyond enough power to play SC, I just want a middle of the road sort of computer. Looks arent that important, and I dont care as long as it has decent battery life (my current computer averages about 3.5 hours when unpluged, although most of the time it is jacked into the wall). Widescreen would definitely be a plus, as it is my understanding that 16: 9 is the best for SC.

Reliability is very important, I'm used to a macbook which just works, no questions asked, and the ability to go and get it fixed in an apple store when anything breaks, so I definitely am looking for reliability/ good service.

Beyond that, I'll take as much power as I can get for my budget.

edit: stupid smiley face.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
April 21 2010 06:18 GMT
#6
give waht you want speficially, Ie. I want to run sc2 at this resolution, at high setting and have a min frame rate of 50 fps. etc. There are a lot of data out there regarding sc2 frame rates on hardwares.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 06:20:41
April 21 2010 06:19 GMT
#7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146719
Lenovo IdeaPad Core i3 + GT 240 $800
not bad either

The first one should possibly run at high, and all 3 are guaranteed at medium. TBH, SC2 looks beautiful even at low, so I would just go for the Lenovo.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 21 2010 06:20 GMT
#8
On April 21 2010 15:18 Glider wrote:
give waht you want speficially, Ie. I want to run sc2 at this resolution, at high setting and have a min frame rate of 50 fps. etc. There are a lot of data out there regarding sc2 frame rates on hardwares.

Again, I'm not all that good at computers, so I'm not exactly sure what all that means/is. I'd like to play on medium/low settings without any lag issues, as I'm pretty sure thats all i'll be able to get for what I can afford. Anything more is a plus.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#9
On April 21 2010 15:19 FragKrag wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146719
Lenovo IdeaPad Core i3 + GT 240 $800
not bad either

The first one should possibly run at high, and all 3 are guaranteed at medium. TBH, SC2 looks beautiful even at low, so I would just go for the Lenovo.

Thanks for all the help! One more question, should all 3 be able to handle the expansions as well? I'd hate to have to get a new comp for each game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
April 21 2010 06:26 GMT
#10
Expansions should logically have the same system requirements.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 21 2010 06:29 GMT
#11
Most likely yes. Blizz's games are well optimized. No matter your choice, avoid integrated cards. You probably should buy a desktop to be honest. Your current laptop looks good for most tasks, unless you are planning to play more causal games/ video editting etc. Also, it is harder to upgrade for laptops than desktops, especially for graphics cards.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 21 2010 06:33 GMT
#12
On April 21 2010 15:29 cascades wrote:
Most likely yes. Blizz's games are well optimized. No matter your choice, avoid integrated cards. You probably should buy a desktop to be honest. Your current laptop looks good for most tasks, unless you are planning to play more causal games/ video editting etc. Also, it is harder to upgrade for laptops than desktops, especially for graphics cards.

Yeah, if the game came out next year after i graduate, i would definitely get a desktop. However, it looks likely that its gonna come out sooner rather than later, and I wanna be able to play while still in school. The prospect of having a desktop in a dorm room just kinda scares me.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 21 2010 06:35 GMT
#13
It's not harder than desktops, it's usually not possible. You can upgrade the HDD and RAM for your laptop but almost never your GPU or CPU.
Official Entusman #21
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
April 21 2010 06:38 GMT
#14
RAM is kinda hard too :<
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
April 21 2010 06:41 GMT
#15
The new macbook pro 13'? could this run it?
Long live BroodWar!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
April 21 2010 06:42 GMT
#16
New? It's just the same hardware rebranded

yeah, it'll run at low just fine.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 21 2010 06:53 GMT
#17
On April 21 2010 15:41 haruharu wrote:
The new macbook pro 13'? could this run it?


Er with the same money you could buy a non macbook laptop with better specs.

To each their own however.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Maentwrog
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom17 Posts
April 21 2010 07:02 GMT
#18
Its the classic argument, like buying a Sony Viao laptop, you pay an extra £100 for the prettyness!
I've been putting out fire with gasoline!
Genesis Brood
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States193 Posts
April 21 2010 07:15 GMT
#19
I recommend a desktop computer rather than a laptop for gaming. SC2 will be playable on the laptops, true, but you'd save a lot more money buying a desktop. I know you're going to college so you'll need a laptop. The main reason I say not to buy a laptop is because I've had a lot of friends who have had laptops breaking down after a few years.

The type of gaming laptop you want would probably go for about 1000$. If you are really set on a laptop for college purposes, I'd suggest you get a cheap 400-600~ laptop and 500$ desktop for SC2. If you look around you could get the desktop even cheaper. There are plenty of deals on newegg,com, woot.com, frys.com.

I normally build my computers but since you don't know much about comps, I would suggest you buy an already built desktop and just upgrade the video card to the minimum that's in your budget and can still meet the minimum video card requirements as determined by Blizzard. If you do decide on a desktop and how to build one, etc, PM me and I'd be more than happy to help. I love building computers~
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 21 2010 09:48 GMT
#20
I actually agree with above poster that you should think twice before investing in laptops. They are not durable and not very nice compared to desktops. I would buy a cheap Lenovo and save up money for a good desktop.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
April 21 2010 10:45 GMT
#21
Really depends on how much you are willing to spend on this laptop.

If you are planning to get a laptop for gaming, the laptops listed by FragKrag are good (pretty cheap too)

here is a cheaper one I found on Newegg if your budget is lower.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115727
$599

I think it should run SC2 on lowest settings
My lappy with 9300M GS runs SC2 on lowest smoothly, and I'm pretty sure the 4570 is a stronger card

Of course if you are willing to spend $1000, you can always build a computer (that can run SC2 pretty well) and buy a cheap laptop/netbook
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 10:48:17
April 21 2010 10:47 GMT
#22
If you have the choice get a desktop for gaming and a cheap laptop.

Laptops are terrible. Expensive, poor performance cost wise, shitty durability, bad keyboard, bad screens, can't uppgrade, can't change parts etc ...
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 21 2010 11:11 GMT
#23
SC2 has pretty low requirements, I have a crappy Radeon 3650 in my laptop and it runs fine on high (admittedly its overclocked a bit but the card is still crappy). I can also run in low settings on the integrated card but it does get choppy in big battles.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 11:17:12
April 21 2010 11:13 GMT
#24
On April 21 2010 20:11 starfries wrote:
SC2 has pretty low requirements, I have a crappy Radeon 3650 in my laptop and it runs fine on high (admittedly its overclocked a bit but the card is still crappy). I can also run in low settings on the integrated card but it does get choppy in big battles.

3650 >>>>>>>>>> Intel GMA 950 crap

It gets destroyed by GeForce 6xxx lulz
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,1821805,00.asp
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 21 2010 11:20 GMT
#25
On April 21 2010 20:13 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 20:11 starfries wrote:
SC2 has pretty low requirements, I have a crappy Radeon 3650 in my laptop and it runs fine on high (admittedly its overclocked a bit but the card is still crappy). I can also run in low settings on the integrated card but it does get choppy in big battles.

3650 >>>>>>>>>> Intel crap

heh well the integrated card is intel crap but even it manages reasonably.

personally I really like Lenovo since they have good hardware for their prices, and their especially business line is really solid. plus they are easy to open up and upgrade ram/hdd or even cpu compared to most big brands
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 11:30:53
April 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#26
On April 21 2010 20:20 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 20:13 Boblion wrote:
On April 21 2010 20:11 starfries wrote:
SC2 has pretty low requirements, I have a crappy Radeon 3650 in my laptop and it runs fine on high (admittedly its overclocked a bit but the card is still crappy). I can also run in low settings on the integrated card but it does get choppy in big battles.

3650 >>>>>>>>>> Intel crap

heh well the integrated card is intel crap but even it manages reasonably.

Well i don't know if your IGP is the GMA 950 but i don't think that an IGP who can't even get more than 10 fps in 640*480 for HL2 can run Sc2 ( even on low ).
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 21 2010 11:40 GMT
#27
On April 21 2010 20:28 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 20:20 starfries wrote:
On April 21 2010 20:13 Boblion wrote:
On April 21 2010 20:11 starfries wrote:
SC2 has pretty low requirements, I have a crappy Radeon 3650 in my laptop and it runs fine on high (admittedly its overclocked a bit but the card is still crappy). I can also run in low settings on the integrated card but it does get choppy in big battles.

3650 >>>>>>>>>> Intel crap

heh well the integrated card is intel crap but even it manages reasonably.

Well i don't know if your IGP is the GMA 950 but i don't think that an IGP who can't even get more than 10 fps in 640*480 for HL2 can run Sc2 ( even on low ).

er yes mine's actually the 4500 so i didn't mean to say that he shouldn't upgrade, just that it's possible to run SC2 on integrated
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 11:56:03
April 21 2010 11:51 GMT
#28
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112856
^
Not that one it seems.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
April 21 2010 15:21 GMT
#29
laptops may be be crappy for a lot of reasons, but when your roommates are sitting on the couch checking their fantasy teams and you're sitting there trying to stare at everything on your tiny iphone screen because your desktop can't be lugged around, you get a little jealous
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