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fishbowl
United States1575 Posts
On March 20 2010 03:37 Foucault wrote: Hell no, son. I'm talking about Fallout 1 and 2 Good, because Fallout 3 was terrible, especially compared to its predecessors. Fallout 1/2 uses an isometric view throughout the game and a turn based combat system which you're given action points. Moving, using items, and attacking all take a certain amount of action points and when you're done, it's your enemies' turn. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On March 20 2010 03:56 fishbowl wrote: Good, because Fallout 3 was terrible, especially compared to its predecessors. Fallout 1/2 uses an isometric view throughout the game and a turn based combat system which you're given action points. Moving, using items, and attacking all take a certain amount of action points and when you're done, it's your enemies' turn. I like this. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Why oh why are there so many RPG's.....delicious RPG's Planescape:torment......? Fallout 1-2.........? KOTOR........? Dragon Age......? ETC. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
After a while you will develop an internal library like many of us on this thread have. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On March 20 2010 21:48 snotboogie wrote: Pick one, finish it, pick another, finish it etc. After a while you will develop an internal library like many of us on this thread have. Alright, I will do that. I'm gonna start with Planescape: torment | ||
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
On March 20 2010 20:39 Foucault wrote: Hm, I'm still confused! Why oh why are there so many RPG's.....delicious RPG's Planescape:torment......? Fallout 1-2.........? KOTOR........? Dragon Age......? ETC. PS:T is an RPG of the highest tier alongside Arcanum, Betrayal at Krondor etc., but isn't, as suggested by a previous post, going to change your perspective on the world. But, in terms of depth and writing it's classes above the BG's and Oblivion and may well revolutionize your view of RPG's (if those two are represetative of your CRPG experience). If it's too old, NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is something of a substitute. FO 1 is perhaps the strongest candidate for best RPG ever. If you don't like it, play it again and again until you do. You might want to give FO3 a shot first (disclaimer: I haven't touched FO3) since if you really appreciate FO1, but might ruin FO3. KOTOR and DA (you might as well throw the ME's and JE on too) are probably what I'd call junk food. Fall back on these if you're having trouble getting into the above two. You'll probably like them, but they aren't good for you. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
On March 21 2010 00:01 Spinfusor wrote: Betrayal at Krondor. Ohhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn. RIDDLE CHESTS! | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
it's just boring to start all over if the game itself doesn't change. like a not-so-good expansion pack. oh and don't play icewind dale. at least icewind dale 1 is terrible terrible terrible. baldurs gate was fatastic because of the story, characters and open world. icewind dale is like diablo, it's so retarded. while (playing==true) get_quest(); {travel_to_random_dungeon(); clear_dungeon_levels_1-4(); defeat_boss_in_level_5(); travel_back_to_town(); set_quest_status(done);} wheeeeeeeee | ||
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Splendour
Bulgaria129 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
Enjoy. | ||
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
Seriously tho  The classics: BGate, Torment, IWD2, Fallout, Arcanum were all great games. I kinda lost interest in video games a few years ago so haven't played much of the newer 3D rpgs. I definitely hate 3D tho like the other poster mentioned. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
I am pleased. | ||
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On March 21 2010 00:06 snotboogie wrote: Ohhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn. RIDDLE CHESTS! Oh man.... I remember rolling some riddlebox vigorously till I got the right combo by luck. Damn good game that too. I really hate that early "3d" 1st person movement scheme though nowadays. Which reminds me of Albion, it was a game with really nice storyline but kinda too linear options and repetitive combat. Oh and be sure to check if theres some unofficial patches or high resolution mods or such for those Black Isle and Troika games, theres a ton of small bugs and even just blocked content in the initial releases even after the official patches. And I dont think Virgil is really necessary to have with you, if you find him annoying just dump him. But I guess most will like the added story he gives. Dunno about the dog, I dont think I ever had him, but some builds for the PC would easily rape any combat pretty fine alone as well. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 21 2010 08:11 Bajadulce wrote: I liked that Arcanum came with a world editor and some decent mods/addons were made with it. I don't think this was too common with the other RPG's? The infinity engine modding tools were damn good for the other games, but you still had to go through quite a bit to build something. Maybe I just wasn't aware of all that was available. I think that dog in Arcanum was a bit too overpowered tho. Can't remember it's name, but man did it have a bite. Virgil was a bit annoying at times, but you kind of had to have him along just for his story. The dog's name is, quite simply, "Dog". He's not overpowered, he's just more useful in combat than almost every other npc in the game, but that has less to do with Dog's power than the others' badness. NPCs are either built stupidly or are stupid. Seriously... mage pcs can absolutely rape the game. But mage npcs are fucking horrible except, arguably, for the healers. Look at Geoffrey who is probably the best built of the mage npcs. He maxes force, fire, and black necro. Any player with those spells would breeze through the game. In terms of combat, the only thing he's really missing is temporal. The guy could throw up a shield of protection and spam harm and fireflash, and pull out disintegrate for the big enemies and rape everything. But that's not what he does. Instead, he casts body of fire and tries to melee like a dumbass. Virgil is among the more fleshed-out NPCs and one of the most useful despite his shortcomings, but you don't need him and I found Magnus' story to be more interesting especially with Loghaire in the group. | ||
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
I always, always, always play a girl for some reason in rpg's and always evil. It's really hard sometimes after you've played the game a few times and know what things are available for "good" characters. That's always my biggest gripe. Seems all these RPG's were setup for goodie too-shoe types? Any rpg's that have a good storyline for evil characters. I loved Viconia, Edwin, and Korgan! Well gotta love Jan Jansen too. Except an evil person would never bother rescuing them? Someday I'm going to play a good character.. not. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On March 21 2010 09:58 Bajadulce wrote:I always, always, always play a girl for some reason in rpg's and always evil. It's really hard sometimes after you've played the game a few times and know what things are available for "good" characters. That's always my biggest gripe. Seems all these RPG's were setup for goodie too-shoe types? Any rpg's that have a good storyline for evil characters. I loved Viconia, Edwin, and Korgan! Well gotta love Jan Jansen too. Except an evil person would never bother rescuing them? Someday I'm going to play a good character.. not. As I see it, good guys do the given quests... If youre bad you do whatever you like, steal and kill. One of the most fun things in Arcanum was imo stealing stuff without getting caught - some places its quite easy but some places it really required nice planning. I should play it again sometime... Its long enough so that I dont remember everything and it changes so much with race/aptitude/alignment anyway. | ||
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