EPTSC2 Beta I find disappointing - Page 2
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
Now if you could give concrete suggestions on how to improve that would be useful and constructive. What are your comp specs, and the like. Anyways, looking forward to new blood, new community, and new challenges. Some people have such high expectations it is impossible to not get let down. I come in with low expectations. It's a half-glass full to half-glass empty outlook. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
it's beta, and it flows just fine for me. the only thing is that they need to make units, at least zerg, more distinguishable. in a ling vs ling fight all I saw was a mash of claws and wings, which while it fits the theme/world nicely, does not do well for gameplay. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On February 19 2010 06:37 PokePill wrote: I agree There is something wrong with this game that is hard to describe, it feels like a downgrade from both War3 and SC:BW in many regards. Everything just feels like it's sliding, units don't seem responsive enough, mineral saturation seems to be optimal way to quickly. Low econ gameplay doesn't bother me, but the game doesn't require enough micro for the low econ gameplay to be exciting. It feels like this game is going to basically eventually come down to build orders and timing, with micro and macro being irrelevant and high level matches will come down to luck. Hard to convey what's wrong with this game in words, but something is definitely wrong / missing. Hopefully things can still turn around. My thoughts are based off: 2 games Oh man it could have been a cool troll but why you had to bold the last sentence ? Nobody will fall for it  | ||
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SirNeb
United States243 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On February 19 2010 07:03 Boblion wrote: Oh man it could have been a cool troll but why you had to bold the last sentence ? Nobody will fall for it I'm srs though I was just saying I might change my mind after I play more. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
build the best unit, and build a lot of it. It is true no one knows wtf they are doing, but so far i'd say the premise of "build the most of the best unit" is gonna be pretty solid for beta. don't play it like it's SC1, it's not. Play beta to abuse whatever the hell is strongest in the game, play it to make the game look like an utter failure, aka if the most idiotic, boring, tactic is the BEST thing to do, then do it every single game and if there is no counter then there is a problem. basically copy paste what Nony said, regardless of how good or bad the game seems upon first impressions now, the point of the beta is to give blizzard highly technical feedback on balance as well as bugginess in interface, etc. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
The exact same complaint was made when street fighter IV came out after over a decade without a new SF game. "Clunky, sluggish movement" etc etc. Game also made the switch to 3d graphics from 2d, much like sc. To reiterate what others have said, give it time. Metagames can only appear once you're comfortable enough with the game itself to get there. The funky seeming controls will vanish almost entirely as well. People really need to stop worrying about balance as well. BW isn't still around thanks to its balance, its still around because its fun. I've seen more at stake in one series of Marvel vs Capcom 2, one of the most broken imbalanced (but fun!) fighters ever, than TSL2's entire prize pool. Balance should be 100% a secondary concern. | ||
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
On February 19 2010 06:32 Liquid`NonY wrote: the game is supposed to take skill to play well. you probably have a high expectation for your abilities to play and it makes you think you can be at ease with 1 session of gaming. you should put at least as much time into familiarizing yourself with sc2 as you did with bw before you make comparisons on how good it feels. also, the very first patch of beta is bound to have some problems. i can already tell that they will have to tweak AI a bit to change the way micro works. and some commands are just buggy. you may have been experiencing some bugs without noticing due to the fast pace of the game and another thing: if you signed up for beta, you should have done so with the intent of helping to fix whatever problems there are with the game. it seems like a ton of people feel that by getting in the beta they are getting some sneak-peak and want to write a review of the game as if it's anywhere near done. it's really shitty to play the beta and not like it and then publicly denounce it and not do anything to improve the game. utterly useless CAN WE FRONT PAGE THIS FUCKING POST | ||
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Chef
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On February 19 2010 09:31 Chef wrote: You know, if you don't like it you can always send me your account :D My brother's got 9gigs of RAM I'm itching to put to the test, and I can't stand watching noobs on the streams be bad at SC2 | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I agree. The voice of reason. It's a beta people, not the game itself. People are losing sight of that really fast. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On February 19 2010 09:51 Mystlord wrote: I agree. The voice of reason. It's a beta people, not the game itself. People are losing sight of that really fast. Voice of reason? I can't make a blog about my first impressions of the game? Give me a fucking break. I'm not losing sight of anything, I tried the beta and my first impression was bad, I didn't like the way it played. I never said you shouldn't bother playing, or that I would never play it again, so chill. | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On February 19 2010 05:41 Salv wrote: Anyway, for those who didn't get the beta or are unable to play, I wouldn't worry about it, it's not that good IMO. I'm still worrying about it. Please give me your beta key. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
I would not feel that way if I had not played the campaign. Right now, in sc2, I know exactly what you mean. I feel it too off of 8 games. when I see the new units and all the new stuff, its just that..new stuff. theres not that magical element that got me initially addicted to sc until I could appreciate the real game going on. sc2 is just missing the campaign, and its a beta. its like a pair of jeans before you've broken them in. for you i would reccomend just playin the computer and doing the shit you hopefully used to do when you first started playing sc (like i would build a battlecruiser squadron and keep them in formation until it was time for battle. they'd each have a dropship of scvs to repair them and no other units were allowed for offense) one time, me and a friend were doing team melee pvz vs 3 computer teams. we ended up with 4 pylons, 5 scouts a ht and two archons. we holed up at the top of a ramp that had 2 shield batteries and some cannons and defended our outpost for a good hour against all the zerg attacks. it was like aiur, and even though we lost it was hella fun. i think you're just forgetting to play, in the truest sense of the word. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12065 Posts
On February 19 2010 06:32 Liquid`NonY wrote: the game is supposed to take skill to play well. you probably have a high expectation for your abilities to play and it makes you think you can be at ease with 1 session of gaming. you should put at least as much time into familiarizing yourself with sc2 as you did with bw before you make comparisons on how good it feels. also, the very first patch of beta is bound to have some problems. i can already tell that they will have to tweak AI a bit to change the way micro works. and some commands are just buggy. you may have been experiencing some bugs without noticing due to the fast pace of the game and another thing: if you signed up for beta, you should have done so with the intent of helping to fix whatever problems there are with the game. it seems like a ton of people feel that by getting in the beta they are getting some sneak-peak and want to write a review of the game as if it's anywhere near done. it's really shitty to play the beta and not like it and then publicly denounce it and not do anything to improve the game. utterly useless Nony. I think I love you. Best post about the beta I've read in so long. Especially the last paragraph. Anyone who signed up to the beta seriously should of expected to have a massively buggy mess so they can help fix it. Anyone who was expecting a polished game as a beta would be really wrong. To be honest this is probably the best beta I've ever seen bug wise. Blizzard have done a fantastic job and the OP is incredibly lucky to get to play it. bugs or not. Alot of people would kill to have the chance you have OP. Just give the game some time and look for bugs and get them posted to Blizzard so they can fix them. ^_^ | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:53 Qikz wrote: Nony. I think I love you. Best post about the beta I've read in so long. Especially the last paragraph. Anyone who signed up to the beta seriously should of expected to have a massively buggy mess so they can help fix it. Anyone who was expecting a polished game as a beta would be really wrong. To be honest this is probably the best beta I've ever seen bug wise. Blizzard have done a fantastic job and the OP is incredibly lucky to get to play it. bugs or not. Alot of people would kill to have the chance you have OP. Just give the game some time and look for bugs and get them posted to Blizzard so they can fix them. ^_^ I intend to. With all the threads talking about how much people enjoy it etc, I thought I would post my own views as I wasn't feeling the same way. | ||
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