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On March 19 2010 14:37 Stripe wrote:
Wtf? I'm doing Software Engineering at the University of Victoria and it's not nearly as hard as it's described in this topic. Maybe Software Engineering is way way easier than the other kinds or maybe my university isn't as intense as Waterloo for example...
software engineering is considered to be a part of computer science, at least its like that at SFU
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Canada9720 Posts
it depends on the school, obviously. at many universities it's jointly offered between the faculty of engineering and computer science.
and of course, if you weren't eligible to to become a p. eng after graduating, they wouldn't be able to call it 'engineering'
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On March 19 2010 22:05 CTStalker wrote:
and of course, if you weren't eligible to to become a p. eng after graduating, they wouldn't be able to call it 'engineering'
Really? I guess you have the potential once you graduate, but in most provinces, you need 2 to 4 years of engineering experience under a licensed P.Eng, and you're most likely not going to get that during your undergraduate education. Correct my if I'm wrong.
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Calgary26003 Posts
On March 19 2010 22:29 Chromyne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 22:05 CTStalker wrote:
and of course, if you weren't eligible to to become a p. eng after graduating, they wouldn't be able to call it 'engineering' Really? I guess you have the potential once you graduate, but in most provinces, you need 2 to 4 years of engineering experience under a licensed P.Eng, and you're most likely not going to get that during your undergraduate education. Correct my if I'm wrong.
Yes, you need that, but you also need an engineering degree...
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On March 19 2010 22:45 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 22:29 Chromyne wrote:On March 19 2010 22:05 CTStalker wrote:
and of course, if you weren't eligible to to become a p. eng after graduating, they wouldn't be able to call it 'engineering' Really? I guess you have the potential once you graduate, but in most provinces, you need 2 to 4 years of engineering experience under a licensed P.Eng, and you're most likely not going to get that during your undergraduate education. Correct my if I'm wrong. Yes, you need that, but you also need an engineering degree...
The way he worded it, it sounded like he was saying that you could become a P.Eng upon graduating, which would be false unless you can get all your experience and take the exam. If he meant that you would be one step closer to getting a P.Eng, that would be true, but that would be true for a lot of cases.
Also, you don't need an engineering degree to get a P.Eng. One minimum requirement in Ontario is a three-year university science program in a relevant engineering field. Actually, IIRC, Alberta also allows for applicants without a professional degree.
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Canada9720 Posts
no, i didn't mean to imply you can get the designation without interning for 4 years -- just that you do (in my province, at least) need a nationally certified engineering degree (or the equivalent. a former prof of mine had a radiology degree from the ukraine, and he's a registered p.eng in new brunswick).
i'd be interested in seeing a source for being able to become a p. eng without that requirement in the provinces you mentioned. in NB, you can be a member of the same governing association, since it covers engineers and geologists and geo-scientists, or something. but those geo folks have a different stamp, not p. eng
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If you choose to register without an accredited engineering degree, most associations give alternative requirements (that are usually much more tedious and time consuming, though you could say the same thing about university engineering >_>).
All of my information has been taken from each association's respective website under their licensing and registration sections. Please tell me if I misunderstood anything. (Direct links are below.)
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Calgary26003 Posts
On March 19 2010 22:57 Chromyne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 22:45 Chill wrote:On March 19 2010 22:29 Chromyne wrote:On March 19 2010 22:05 CTStalker wrote:
and of course, if you weren't eligible to to become a p. eng after graduating, they wouldn't be able to call it 'engineering' Really? I guess you have the potential once you graduate, but in most provinces, you need 2 to 4 years of engineering experience under a licensed P.Eng, and you're most likely not going to get that during your undergraduate education. Correct my if I'm wrong. Yes, you need that, but you also need an engineering degree... The way he worded it, it sounded like he was saying that you could become a P.Eng upon graduating, which would be false unless you can get all your experience and take the exam. If he meant that you would be one step closer to getting a P.Eng, that would be true, but that would be true for a lot of cases. Also, you don't need an engineering degree to get a P.Eng. One minimum requirement in Ontario is a three-year university science program in a relevant engineering field. Actually, IIRC, Alberta also allows for applicants without a professional degree.
http://www.apegga.org/applicants/Engineers/registration.html
What criteria do I have to meet?
Post-secondary education: An undergraduate degree from a recognized accredited engineering, geology or geophysics program or equivalent is required. You must have your institution provide APEGGA with a Certificate of Graduation and official transcripts.
Of course you need an engineering degree to be a P.Eng. You can become a geologist or geophysicist with the appropriate degrees and experience, which is maybe what you are thinking of, but you certainly can't become a P.Eng with having a degree in engineering!
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Calgary26003 Posts
On March 20 2010 00:05 Chromyne wrote:If you choose to register without an accredited engineering degree, most associations give alternative requirements (that are usually much more tedious and time consuming, though you could say the same thing about university engineering >_>). All of my information has been taken from each association's respective website under their licensing and registration sections. Please tell me if I misunderstood anything. (Direct links are below.) + Show Spoiler +
I'm not going to look through a 45 page document, but APEGGA covers all of engineers, geologists and geophysicists, so it's likely those are covered under a single document.
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On March 20 2010 00:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2010 00:05 Chromyne wrote:If you choose to register without an accredited engineering degree, most associations give alternative requirements (that are usually much more tedious and time consuming, though you could say the same thing about university engineering >_>). All of my information has been taken from each association's respective website under their licensing and registration sections. Please tell me if I misunderstood anything. (Direct links are below.) + Show Spoiler + I'm not going to look through a 45 page document, but APEGGA covers all of engineers, geologists and geophysicists, so it's likely those are covered under a single document.
Quantity of Experience (Without a Professional Degree)
"If you do not have a degree in engineering, geology or geophysics, the EGGP Act requires that you must have at least eight years of experience acceptable to the Board of Examiners, at least one year of which must be obtained after completion of the examinations assessed by the Board."
(p. 5 APEGGA Experience Requirements for Lincensure)
EDIT: Idiotic moment.
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Calgary26003 Posts
I think that's moreso a grandfather clause for people who were doing engineering all their life and are now trying to follow the code. I doubt it's some technician who does engineering for 8 years and then gets a stamp.
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That may be so, though that's not the point. I'm just saying that it's possible, permissible and does not necessitate an engineering degree.
Okay, I'm done.
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