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The story begins last year during my grade twelve year in high school. It was the most stressful in my entire life I had a lot of trouble sleeping because I would always be thinking about my grades, I was calculating my average roughly 4-5 times a day. Before grade 12 I always had at least 80 averages but I struggled a lot, one reason I believe is because of one teacher that I had. I will always remember this one question from a test for as long as I live because it is hands down the most retarded thing I have ever seen on a test, "How does lava have a higher silica content then the rock from which it was formed?" the answer ended up being "the lava would roll over other rocks which would melt and give the lava a higher silica content." On top of that I had to deal with the stress of trying extremely hard on chemistry tests and always doing terrible, going into the tests extremely confident and then getting bent over a table.
My mom thought that since I spend so much time on the computer that I should just apply to a computer course, were in actuality I was always extremely frustrated by computers. They would randomly break and I would use random trial and error of solutions that I found on the internet to fix it, and they would think that I was extremely knowledgeable when it came to computers. They didn't seem to comprehend that there was a difference between building computers or making software, and playing games on the computer.
I ended up applying to decent schools for physical sciences programs against my parents will. I applied to schools that for the most part required an admission average of 73-80% most of the schools would list a range of marks that encompassed roughly 4 percentile. I ended up having a final average of 75% which I thought was decent although I was extremely disappointed in myself. Unfortunately I did not get into any universities. I of course was stunned and extremely disappointed in myself, it really hurts opening up letters hoping they will offer you admission and then reading that you didn't make the cut. I pulled myself together though and tried to think positively, there was always next year right? I could come back for a 5th year and improve my grades and then try again.
My parents were never really interested in my life because they were to busy concentrating on my older sister who is an Olympic hockey player so I thought they would not mind so much about me staying at home and continuing on in high school for another year. Unfortunately I was wrong. Dead wrong. My parents especially my Mom were disgusted when they learned that I was going to be staying another year. They believe that I am one out of a possible four or five that had to remain for a 5th year, and consequently believe I am mentally retarded and completely incapable of making my own decisions. They are only letting me return for one semester because they believe that if it takes any longer I might as well just drop out of school and get a full time job.
Recently I told them my plans for applying to University this year, which was to apply to roughly 5 schools, 3 of the schools being ones that I 100% know I can get into and 2 schools were I believe I have a 70%+ chance of getting into. I decided to apply for physical sciences again because that is what I enjoy the most. I would much rather be doing something I love and making less money then doing something I hate and earning more money, and for the last 3 years I have loved Chemistry. I also told them that I was choosing schools that had good engineering programs because if for some reason I didn't like physical sciences then that would be the next program that I could see myself enjoying.
My Mom then responded by telling me that she would not be letting me repeat last years mistake, and that she would not let me switch into an engineering program from a physical science program even if she allowed me to apply for a physical science program. An argument ensued which resulted in me being kicked out of my house for 3 days, until I apologized and accepted the fact that I would not being going to university.
A few of her main points were that a degree in science would get me no were in life because there would be no jobs available, and that I was not "right" for university.
So I am just curious if anyone on TL has a degree of some sort in science and if it is completely useless?
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Baa?21248 Posts
This is an issue of telling your parents they're retarded if they think a science degree is useless.
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On December 09 2009 13:09 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
it really hurts opening up letters hoping they will offer you admission and then reading that you didn't make the cut
yeah they never send just a letter if you got in, it'd be a big thick package
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thats weird...
I'm in grade 12 right now, so I am also stressing out over marks. I find it surprising that you thought you would get into some programs, but weren't able to get into ANY. Really doing another year of high school isn't a big deal, and I think your parents should accept that. It's not hard to do a few courses and boost your marks significantly... Also for universities you shouldn't see them as just a way to get a job, it's more about the education and the overall experience rather than becoming an engineer. You can do w/e you want after you get your degree, and it doesn't mean you have to do exactly what you studied.
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Calgary26004 Posts
I've heard this story 100 times and in the end it boils down to you spinning the story to sound like a victim.
I can say with almost 100% certainty that you fucked up your marks and now your parents are justifiably pulling you by the hand to ensure you don't completely fuck up.
The first step is getting your life under control, whatever that means to you. Don't fight it, just accept it and get your shit together. Starting now.
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i didn't even know you could do 5 years of high school lol. How did you not get into any schools? always have back ups, likely ones, and reach schools.
And how did it go from arguing about which program you would apply for to accepting the fact that you wont go to college? you should definitely go if you are at all able. also, you can go with an undecided major and figure out which one you want and then pick, no?
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It's really your fault that you didn't apply to a university that you would have 90% + chance of getting into and being satisfied there. Not sure what you were thinking :|
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Haha Chill...
Anyway Mr. Protoss... If you're going to go into either physical sciences or engineering, be prepared to work hard. There's plenty of opportunity in both fields, but you're going to want a graduate degree eventually (if Canada works anything like the US). For that you'll need good university grades.
It would be better to take a few years off of school and get a job while getting your priorities unfucked rather than messing up your university GPA and screwing the rest of your life over.
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im confused, you can pull a C average and as long as you don't fail the ACT/SAT in a ridiculous manner you can probably make into many big, public state universities.
and those schools are just fine, go for it.
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On December 09 2009 13:37 eMbrace wrote:
im confused, you can pull a C average and as long as you don't fail the ACT/SAT in a ridiculous manner you can probably make into many big, public state universities.
and those schools are just fine, go for it.
He's in Canada
At OP: Well you really needed at least an 80 average to get your pick of schools, but I'm surprised you didn't get any with a 75. Whatever it is, I think Chill is right, it's basically your fault and you're not the victim of your parents cruelty. Just man up and study and get better marks and get into a university you want.
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On December 09 2009 13:24 FragKrag wrote:
It's really your fault that you didn't apply to a university that you would have 90% + chance of getting into and being satisfied there. Not sure what you were thinking :|
Yea it was my fault for applying to schools that were out of my reach. But to be fair I also based my applications off of my first semester mid term average. I also atribute the decision to not apply to schools which I had a 90+% chance of getting into, to my friends to some degree. (scapegoat? lol maybe) My friends for the most part maintained 90+% averages with ease and continually laughed at people who were considering lower end schools. I guess it made me consider myself an elitist, and I thought it was below me to apply to any of the lesser schools that they always made fun of. Obviously this ideal was completely shit on when I didn't get in anywhere, and it makes me feel fucking retarded looking back on it.
I know I was a fucking idiot, and I still may be but at least I admit it. And that is the first step, right?
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On December 09 2009 13:22 Chill wrote:
I've heard this story 100 times and in the end it boils down to you spinning the story to sound like a victim.
I can say with almost 100% certainty that you fucked up your marks and now your parents are justifiably pulling you by the hand to ensure you don't completely fuck up.
The first step is getting your life under control, whatever that means to you. Don't fight it, just accept it and get your shit together. Starting now.
Hey you're back. That's nice.
By now he means like quit out of TL and get your shit together now. Good luck dude!
Also there's no such thing as a useless education. Also if you read this line you haven't quit out of TL and are fucking up.
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does your mom not have a point?
and degree in science is pretty useless for your level unless you go on to graduate school. you might just end up making copies at some science related place. undergrad degrees does very little with the except of a few like CS of engineering.
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and like every said, crying about it on TL means you just talk about unfairness in the world and doesn't plan on doing anything about it.
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Well I have been trying a lot harder this year and doing a lot better but the major problem is that my mom doesnt see a reason for me to go into a science program, because there are supposedly no jobs available in that area. I am just wondering if she is right or not?
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On December 09 2009 14:00 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Well I have been trying a lot harder this year and doing a lot better but the major problem is that my mom doesnt see a reason for me to go into a science program, because there are supposedly no jobs available in that area. I am just wondering if she is right or not?
She may be right about there not being a particular overflow of pure science jobs, but nowadays in Canada the undergrad is becoming the new high school diploma: if you don't have one, employers won't really consider you for anything. So, since not going to school is hardly a good option, you should go for something you will excel at.
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science degree is useless unless its a graduate degree
your mom is right.
the only difference between a chemistry and physics bachelor major is which company you will be filling papers at.
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pursuing a career in managing athletes wouldn't be too bad
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