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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
December 08 2009 09:11 GMT
#41
Protoss players love PvP so much they want everyone to play P too. How great SC would be if everyone played P...

If everyone played P then Blizzard would nerf P. So be glad some people have enough pride to play Z or T.
win8282
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)454 Posts
December 08 2009 10:42 GMT
#42
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Protoss is imba

One of my pracc. accounts, dbgksehd has:
PvT 90% win ratio (9-1)
PvZ 64% win ratio (9-5)
PvP 27% win ration (3-8)

PVP IMBAAA

No, seriously. If you're losing to mass expand-Dts and cannons, it probably says more about you than that "noob" protoss you played. As a d+/c- protoss, I can tell you that getting attacked in multiple sites (i.e. getting vult dropped in main, 2 siege tanks siegining my 3rd, just drives protosses crazy)
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 10:56:16
December 08 2009 10:55 GMT
#43
Sure. But a T that's able to pull that off without sacrificing micro or macro is above C-.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 08 2009 10:58 GMT
#44
Stop complaining about how hard it is to play Terran at low levels and just get better.
You can believe you're a better player than everyone you lose to but in the end no one really cares.
No I'm never serious.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
December 08 2009 11:01 GMT
#45
theres no imbalance at D level, quit whining
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
December 08 2009 11:02 GMT
#46
Nice to have someone who doesn't even play SC give us the end all on balance...
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 11:29:47
December 08 2009 11:23 GMT
#47
Learn fantasy build

Usually you get so ahead with your intial drop you can just finish the game with a timing push.
The only reason why im actually winning tvp lately;;

Also depends when you play
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
December 08 2009 11:24 GMT
#48
Stop playing Python :x
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
December 08 2009 13:57 GMT
#49
On December 08 2009 20:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
theres no imbalance at D level, quit whining

There is only one, playing T in TvP...
But seriously TvP is all about understanding timings. If you have missed your timing window by any mean just turtle. If there is no harras and you got free macro time and good scout information (D/D+ lvls) just do a timing...gg go re.
Forever Vulture.. :(
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
December 08 2009 14:13 GMT
#50
On December 08 2009 22:57 IceCube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 20:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
theres no imbalance at D level, quit whining

There is only one, playing T in TvP...
But seriously TvP is all about understanding timings. If you have missed your timing window by any mean just turtle. If there is no harras and you got free macro time and good scout information (D/D+ lvls) just do a timing...gg go re.

Not at D levels. Why do you assume the protoss doesn't suck just as much as the terran in TvP. It's not like the protoss is going to be expanding and cutting probes at the perfect time to shut down timing pushes, I doubt a D protoss even knows what a flank is, let alone is able to pull one off.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 08 2009 14:17 GMT
#51
On December 08 2009 17:16 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 17:13 koreasilver wrote:
Play on some Terran friendly maps that are played often, or at least kinda often like Othello or something.

Yo. FUCK that map for PvT. I have to proxy robo every game otherwise I can't take a third base without some sort of cliffgay dropgay proxygay by the Terran.

Yeah, ZvT on Othello is pretty terrible. I've learned not to play ZvT on that map.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
December 08 2009 14:53 GMT
#52
On December 08 2009 23:13 sixghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 22:57 IceCube wrote:
On December 08 2009 20:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
theres no imbalance at D level, quit whining

There is only one, playing T in TvP...
But seriously TvP is all about understanding timings. If you have missed your timing window by any mean just turtle. If there is no harras and you got free macro time and good scout information (D/D+ lvls) just do a timing...gg go re.

Not at D levels. Why do you assume the protoss doesn't suck just as much as the terran in TvP. It's not like the protoss is going to be expanding and cutting probes at the perfect time to shut down timing pushes, I doubt a D protoss even knows what a flank is, let alone is able to pull one off.

Its like this: if you go with 120 1-0 push and doesn't do it perfectly (D lvl Terrans miss this timing by 1-2mins even without harras) you get rolled by 1a2a3a toss with 100apm toss with D lvl macro. No? I won't even begin to talk about 4fact push which most impatient (read inexperience) Terrans do at D lvl coz they scouted not so big toss army and then they do this push with not so good positioning and with few or without any mines...again gg to 100apm 1a2a3a toss.
Forever Vulture.. :(
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
December 08 2009 14:58 GMT
#53
Timing pushes are not recommended for D level TvP.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
December 08 2009 15:03 GMT
#54
I wish all terrans were as gm as you. The last game i played i was literally delayed about an hour by a terran who refused to leave the game even though i had him contained with a 200/200 army and i was on 5 bases, him on 2. I suicided half my army into his tanks and built carriers, but even as they were ready he kept refusing that the game was over even though he was mined out and had no units building, nor was he able to.

Terran's are so bm.
U Gotta Skate.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
December 08 2009 15:12 GMT
#55
cry
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
December 08 2009 15:31 GMT
#56
On December 08 2009 16:27 AzureEye wrote:
Typical Terran. Bashing Protoss as "easy" to play when he realizes TvP is not imbalanced like TvZ.

Stop whining and actually practice. If he makes substantial number of DT's, he's wasting gas if you are prepared for detection

PvT is harder than TvP at higher levels, or at least thats what me + my friends believe

EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/



lol @ tvz imbalanced

;\

ultras, mutas, and defilers have something to say about that ;D
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 08 2009 15:55 GMT
#57
So many people with bad attitudes on here... I've held off from playing on ICCup so far because I wanted to get decent with some friends still but reading so many negative and ridiculous views is causing my interest to dwindle.

One question though... If all he was doing was massing cannons and not building anything until DTs then how could you miss scouting this, realizing you were home free to take another base, and siege outside of his with a turret for protection?
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 08 2009 16:23 GMT
#58
On December 08 2009 17:17 Always wrote:
i do envy your tvz though. my tvz D+ lately has been abysmal. I keep losing to early lings-- either his initial 6 or the 12-18 he builds. even though i always know they're coming, i haven't been able to stop them. if i bunker up, he runs by, wreaks havoc around my base, then sends more to attack my nat workers while my marines are busy in the main. then, his inability to macro pays off (at least i think it's his inability to macro) because once spire pops, he gets to blow 900/900 on mutas. tons of time to micro lings without consequence (last time, the death of his lings ENABLED him to build his 9 mutas without getting food stuck!).



http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/3_Hatch_Muta_(vs._Terran)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 08 2009 16:44 GMT
#59
On December 09 2009 01:23 anderoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 17:17 Always wrote:
i do envy your tvz though. my tvz D+ lately has been abysmal. I keep losing to early lings-- either his initial 6 or the 12-18 he builds. even though i always know they're coming, i haven't been able to stop them. if i bunker up, he runs by, wreaks havoc around my base, then sends more to attack my nat workers while my marines are busy in the main. then, his inability to macro pays off (at least i think it's his inability to macro) because once spire pops, he gets to blow 900/900 on mutas. tons of time to micro lings without consequence (last time, the death of his lings ENABLED him to build his 9 mutas without getting food stuck!).



http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/3_Hatch_Muta_(vs._Terran)


wow are people really this ignorant
I would only agree with Always in regards to ultras, but even most D- players know that you're supposed to save larva for mutas
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 08 2009 16:45 GMT
#60
On December 08 2009 23:13 sixghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 22:57 IceCube wrote:
On December 08 2009 20:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
theres no imbalance at D level, quit whining

There is only one, playing T in TvP...
But seriously TvP is all about understanding timings. If you have missed your timing window by any mean just turtle. If there is no harras and you got free macro time and good scout information (D/D+ lvls) just do a timing...gg go re.

Not at D levels. Why do you assume the protoss doesn't suck just as much as the terran in TvP. It's not like the protoss is going to be expanding and cutting probes at the perfect time to shut down timing pushes, I doubt a D protoss even knows what a flank is, let alone is able to pull one off.

Well the fact is, a terran and protoss army of equal strength/mineral value, the less micro'd they are, the higher chance of protoss victory. Conclusion: Protoss requires less micro and can just go back to macro
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
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