EPTlets battle it up a few
Fuckin ICCup Pt. 1 - Page 2
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
lets battle it up a few | ||
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Glaucus
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NastyMarine, sure there is a way to improve your play. You can climb the ranks. But unless you get really good you will always lose to some protoss that you know has terrible mechanics and terrible game sense. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
This also could explain your nice T v Z record as beginner zergs can also have a problem taking and securing a third base, when it is so far away from their natural. While the open field does tend to lend its self to easy flanking and surrounding, a beginner terran will see the advantage. I would suggest playing a different map set. | ||
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Glaucus
479 Posts
As for Python, yes it's good for high level TvP but not so good for low level TvP. Especially with cross positions. Hard third gas means you basically had to do a 2 base push. And that can't even be attempted cross position. But it is a good map for practice. People always bash on Python. Yeah, it's overplayed. But people claim it's a boring macro map. They are so wrong. Python is actually a technical map. | ||
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fanatacist
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
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koreasilver
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On December 08 2009 17:13 koreasilver wrote: Play on some Terran friendly maps that are played often, or at least kinda often like Othello or something. Yo. FUCK that map for PvT. I have to proxy robo every game otherwise I can't take a third base without some sort of cliffgay dropgay proxygay by the Terran. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 08 2009 16:27 AzureEye wrote: Typical Terran. Bashing Protoss as "easy" to play when he realizes TvP is not imbalanced like TvZ. Stop whining and actually practice. If he makes substantial number of DT's, he's wasting gas if you are prepared for detection PvT is harder than TvP at higher levels, or at least thats what me + my friends believe EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/ Yeah, except at lower levels of play TvZ is way harder than ZvT. At D all you gotta do as zerg is do something involving mutalisks then make sure your lurkers aren't too late, and get defilers and you won, not to mention the amount of wins you can get with ling runbys, and muta-ling attacks in the mid-game (at D level,) while Terran has to macro like crazy every 15 seconds, make sure he's safe from runbys, lurker drops, and mutas, while keeping zerg expos down to prevent being 1a2a3a'd by ultralisks, and being able to keep the zerg away from his nat choke due to the risk of losing it to just 1 defiler a few lurkers and 2 control groups of zerglings... All you ever do in all your posts is cry that Terran is imba, it's getting old, you've been banned for that once before, but apparently not for long enough. Also, pretty sure terran requires more multitask than protoss regardless of the level of play in tvp/pvt. | ||
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Always
United States376 Posts
i do envy your tvz though. my tvz D+ lately has been abysmal. I keep losing to early lings-- either his initial 6 or the 12-18 he builds. even though i always know they're coming, i haven't been able to stop them. if i bunker up, he runs by, wreaks havoc around my base, then sends more to attack my nat workers while my marines are busy in the main. then, his inability to macro pays off (at least i think it's his inability to macro) because once spire pops, he gets to blow 900/900 on mutas. tons of time to micro lings without consequence (last time, the death of his lings ENABLED him to build his 9 mutas without getting food stuck!). that's just my beef with zerg in your blog. lol good luck against protoss though! | ||
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Jawa~
United States291 Posts
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Glaucus
479 Posts
And yes like Day[9] mentions if you just drop 8 lings in T's base you can take out like 4 depots before they can do anything about it. Ling damage is just crazy. Lurker damage and ling damage under swarm... If you can get the hang of getting a good attack done on T then that alone, like muta micro, will get you pretty far. And lurker drops wtf. If they get in between your buildings you can't even do anything if you don't have a tank out. ZvT is not like PvT, but I never was Z and I have beat some terrans in ZvT that were supposed to be not too bad compared to my T. Yeah, those games were ugly and scrappy. But still I somehow won. | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
In Terran vs Zerg: Terran leads the match up and dictates the pace. In Zerg vs Protoss: Zerg leads the match up and dictates the pace. In Protoss vs Terran: Prtoss leads the match up and dictates the pace. So depending on what side of the match up you play, you have a dominant MU and defensive MU. For zerg, dominant is vs P and defensive is vs T. Just like in chess, white plays to win, where as black plays to draw. starcraft can be seen in the same way. So when players complain about one race being 'imba' they are really complaining about the inherent MU and the way there race should be played against X race. | ||
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Glaucus
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 08 2009 17:29 Misrah wrote: *sigh* to end this- In Terran vs Zerg: Terran leads the match up and dictates the pace. In Zerg vs Protoss: Zerg leads the match up and dictates the pace. In Protoss vs Terran: Prtoss leads the match up and dictates the pace. So depending on what side of the match up you play, you have a dominant MU and defensive MU. For zerg, dominant is vs P and defensive is vs T. Just like in chess, white plays to win, where as black plays to draw. starcraft can be seen in the same way. So when players complain about one race being 'imba' they are really complaining about the inherent MU and the way there race should be played against X race. This is true except for when you start talking about terran. The difference there is if terran goes bio against zerg, even though Protoss is the harder match up for terran strategically (Protoss has the initiative, or w.e you're saying.) TvZ is wayyyy harder for Terran mechanically, on the other hand if you go mech, the Zerg doesn't need to be as defensive/good strategically, the zerg just needs to macro well and not suicide units (talking about the OP's level here, obviously at higher levels it's different, and at progamer level it's different again.) so, terran doesn't really have an "easy" match up when you're D. Obviously things change drastically once you get up in ranks, and you have the multitask to both build marines, and use them effectively >_>. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
And TvZ is easy at D ranks, just BBS. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
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Glaucus
479 Posts
On the perfect mech map T would only really have to get the proper BOs and strategies down. And then maybe the game gets easier for T. But such a map would be hugely imba at progamer level. So it won't even happen. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On December 08 2009 17:58 Kiarip wrote: ^ Pvanything is easy at D ranks, just proxy 2 gate then play P and whine less | ||
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